martin wrote:Maybe just like the Knicks this season and last, it just take opposing teams a couple of months to figure out ways to slow a team down.

The Rockets need offense and the Knicks need defense. Is there a viable trade between these teams?

Philc1 wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:No to Porzinger. No to Janis. No to the horse 🐎

KP makes Mitch look like the picture of health

KP would destroy our locker room. He’s a depressed whiny malingerer who is an absolute shell of who he was his first 3 seasons here. He’s slow, throws teammates under the bus just ask Luka. Ask any team that has had him last 6 years they all couldn’t wait to get rid of him.

Our Locker room already looks destroyed.

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:No to Porzinger. No to Janis. No to the horse 🐎

KP makes Mitch look like the picture of health

KP would destroy our locker room. He’s a depressed whiny malingerer who is an absolute shell of who he was his first 3 seasons here. He’s slow, throws teammates under the bus just ask Luka. Ask any team that has had him last 6 years they all couldn’t wait to get rid of him.

Our Locker room already looks destroyed.

KP = Shawn Bradley who can occasionally make a 3

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:PHilC makes **** up. KP has been a team guy when. he want to Wiz and then Boston. Players change. His time in NY was awful given his arrogance.
LOok in the mirror and recall how different most of us was from age 20-30!
Some think Lebron is still the same kid. He been in the leauge 23 years!

I doubt KP comes to any teams and destroys it. He is not that guy nor does he hold that kind of leverage and has not for years. Life does that. ACL's do that. Struggle with POTS does that.

I don't know what is going on with our locker room at the moment. Last night Clarkson was guarding Booker in the 4th. Shamet is likley on limited minutes and we were missing two starters. KAT's airballs were concerning. Is it the finger again? SOmething else? The rebounding was there.

4 teams in 6 years and the hawks are trying to get rid of him and this is after self-destructing in the playoffs last season with a “fever.” You should find a better player to simp for. Like Elf. Oh wait.

He makes 30mil. He gets waived, he makes minimum on our books.
If he can't play, its nothing. Waive him. Buh Bye. No picks spent. Nada.
Its not about the last 6 years, its about the here and now and the rest of the season.
Hawks could use him as trade fodder. Thats all he is for a team below .500
If his condition is under control, then you bring him in, look at his med chart, and then make an informed decision.
You don't extend him.

Context Phil. Its not hard.

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:PHilC makes **** up. KP has been a team guy when. he want to Wiz and then Boston. Players change. His time in NY was awful given his arrogance.
LOok in the mirror and recall how different most of us was from age 20-30!
Some think Lebron is still the same kid. He been in the leauge 23 years!

I doubt KP comes to any teams and destroys it. He is not that guy nor does he hold that kind of leverage and has not for years. Life does that. ACL's do that. Struggle with POTS does that.

I don't know what is going on with our locker room at the moment. Last night Clarkson was guarding Booker in the 4th. Shamet is likley on limited minutes and we were missing two starters. KAT's airballs were concerning. Is it the finger again? SOmething else? The rebounding was there.

4 teams in 6 years and the hawks are trying to get rid of him and this is after self-destructing in the playoffs last season with a “fever.” You should find a better player to simp for. Like Elf. Oh wait.

He makes 30mil. He gets waived, he makes minimum on our books.
If he can't play, its nothing. Waive him. Buh Bye. No picks spent. Nada.
Its not about the last 6 years, its about the here and now and the rest of the season.
Hawks could use him as trade fodder. Thats all he is for a team below .500
If his condition is under control, then you bring him in, look at his med chart, and then make an informed decision.
You don't extend him.

Context Phil. Its not hard.

Yes Nalod a depressed and disagreeable KP will fix all our problems. Slow with zero lateral quickness and regularly throws teammates under the bus that’s why Luka forced the mavericks to get rid of him and the next 3 teams did and all that after forcing his way out of NY. Hopefully he doesn’t get another cold.

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:PHilC makes **** up. KP has been a team guy when. he want to Wiz and then Boston. Players change. His time in NY was awful given his arrogance.
LOok in the mirror and recall how different most of us was from age 20-30!
Some think Lebron is still the same kid. He been in the leauge 23 years!

I doubt KP comes to any teams and destroys it. He is not that guy nor does he hold that kind of leverage and has not for years. Life does that. ACL's do that. Struggle with POTS does that.

I don't know what is going on with our locker room at the moment. Last night Clarkson was guarding Booker in the 4th. Shamet is likley on limited minutes and we were missing two starters. KAT's airballs were concerning. Is it the finger again? SOmething else? The rebounding was there.

4 teams in 6 years and the hawks are trying to get rid of him and this is after self-destructing in the playoffs last season with a “fever.” You should find a better player to simp for. Like Elf. Oh wait.

He makes 30mil. He gets waived, he makes minimum on our books.
If he can't play, its nothing. Waive him. Buh Bye. No picks spent. Nada.
Its not about the last 6 years, its about the here and now and the rest of the season.
Hawks could use him as trade fodder. Thats all he is for a team below .500
If his condition is under control, then you bring him in, look at his med chart, and then make an informed decision.
You don't extend him.

Context Phil. Its not hard.

Yes Nalod a depressed and disagreeable KP will fix all our problems. Slow with zero lateral quickness and regularly throws teammates under the bus that’s why Luka forced the mavericks to get rid of him and the next 3 teams did and all that after forcing his way out of NY. Hopefully he doesn’t get another cold.

He won a chip with Boston.
Boston had to cut bait given their cap situation and his fragility.
No issues in Washington either.
Who said he was to be a savior and fix our problems? Not I or anyone here.
I know you so badly want to get a "gotcha", but when you look at a waived guy from a team going nowhere and his medical checks out, and your looking for 10 min, and no financial risk, it does not matter what Luka did or did not do how many years ago?
I acknnowled with Knicks and Mavs the dude was an ass.
If he was healthy ATL would have suiters for his services via trade. At the moment he is cap fodder. ATL signed him for 30mil. THey obviously had hoped he had a clean bill of health. It happend again.
Nobody said he has had a personality change. He still might be a dick. But he is on record as being remorseful about his departure from NY which dipicts some level of maturity.
If your correct you don't bring him in. I agree. If he is reasonably healthy and with no real financial risk beyond a pro rated min for the rest of the year and no cap implications then what is lost? How can he be a team cancer if he has no place in leadership on an already established team. If you read up he had no issues with Boston. So where does this come from?
You see a depressed asset. Maybe another sees him as a player with something to prove? None of us know ****. One can ask questions and speculate, or one can speak in ignorant absolutes.

This is what was being alluded to by myself and others here:

https://nypost.com/2023/11/14/sports/kristaps-porzingis-rejects-old-knicks-rumors/

Don't sweat it. Its a low probalbity concept that if not done you can brag to whom ever it was wise the knicks heeded your wisdom!
You the man!

ramtour420 wrote:

Nalod wrote:I act like KP was the 4th option when healthy. I act like he was not a lockerroom cancer. He was a rotational piece and when healthy played well.
Avg just under 30 minutes a game, 20pts, 7 rebs. Problem is he can't stay on the court.
Boston ran it back and yes moved on from him becuase Tatum got hurt, the apron issues, and his health. KP is not a foundational piece.
You act like someone who fixates on something and too lazy to follow up but digs in on a point regardless of the facts or context.
That or your reading comprehension is very low. Nalod said if waived, and good for 10 or so minutes a game if he is healthy he could contribute.
Key word of the day: "If"

Shawn Bradley? you talking the guy that played 832 games in a 12 year career? The guy who twice played all 82 games? The guy that basically had 3 injury filled years but otherwise 9 seasons played many? If you want to demonize him for being the top pick and not fulfilling the hype there is a long list of players who fill that. KP has played 512 games in his 10th season and thus is far more fragile than Bradley. KP when he plays actually puts up good numbers. Shawn Bradley never had that kind of talent, range, or handle.
But he had the gumption to keep at it and played 12 years. He was skinny and perhaps "Soft" in the era of the big man. Sad he was paralyzed 5 year ago in a bycycle accident.

When your 4th option on offense can only play 10 minutes per game you have a problem

He was signed to a short 2 year extension by Boston and was part of a formula that won a chip. HE did not play but 6 playoff games that year but still got back on the court and they won.

His contract expires this year. He was 4th option behind Tatum, Brown, and White.
I don't envision him as our 4th option and I don't expect him to start if he:

1. Was waived by Hawks if not used as trade fodder to get AD
2. Clears waivers
3. Passes a physical and is a functioning NBA player.
4. Signs as a free agent for Min. as. knick.
5. Then plays 10 min.

If he is our starting PF and is our 4th option and plays but 10 I agree with have issues. But thats not what we are talking about are we? We talking about things going forward if the stars aligned and he was signed. NOt traded. Not offseason aquisition.

martin wrote:Game was in Miami, how wild is that

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https://www.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/2013522299056493036

It’s a shame. And really closes the door on anything GS can do. Jimmy will be almost 38 when he’s finally healthy again.

Philc1 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Nalod wrote:I act like KP was the 4th option when healthy. I act like he was not a lockerroom cancer. He was a rotational piece and when healthy played well.
Avg just under 30 minutes a game, 20pts, 7 rebs. Problem is he can't stay on the court.
Boston ran it back and yes moved on from him becuase Tatum got hurt, the apron issues, and his health. KP is not a foundational piece.
You act like someone who fixates on something and too lazy to follow up but digs in on a point regardless of the facts or context.
That or your reading comprehension is very low. Nalod said if waived, and good for 10 or so minutes a game if he is healthy he could contribute.
Key word of the day: "If"

Shawn Bradley? you talking the guy that played 832 games in a 12 year career? The guy who twice played all 82 games? The guy that basically had 3 injury filled years but otherwise 9 seasons played many? If you want to demonize him for being the top pick and not fulfilling the hype there is a long list of players who fill that. KP has played 512 games in his 10th season and thus is far more fragile than Bradley. KP when he plays actually puts up good numbers. Shawn Bradley never had that kind of talent, range, or handle.
But he had the gumption to keep at it and played 12 years. He was skinny and perhaps "Soft" in the era of the big man. Sad he was paralyzed 5 year ago in a bycycle accident.

When your 4th option on offense can only play 10 minutes per game you have a problem

But but he “won a chip.” So did Bill Wennington.

In 1996 The Bulls rostered 13 players. Bill Wennington was the 10th highest salary player.
Bill Wennington was not why the Bulls won.
Bill Wennington did not win a chip with Bulls. HE WON THREE!
He was part of the team. He won more chips then you win discussions.

What happend to your Shawn Bradley 2.0 quip? Deflecting like an adolescent child again?
You can't digest KP as a off waiver signing as a minimum player for 10 minutes if healthy as a concept?

ToddTT wrote:

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Jesus - that's hard to fathom and Ant ~6'6".