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HofstraBBall wrote:

TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

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This trade is laughable. LA gives up absolutely nothing, dumps Westbrook and adds 3 quality players. This **** is so made up. Is this someones fantasy trade disguised as a real rumor?

It’s a trade proposal. I think you could make it work if we keep Rose, and force them to send their own picks instead of us giving up ours.

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jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Interesting thought. Not in love with it, but it costs some to get some.

Brunson/McBride
Mitchell/IQ
Barrett/Reddish
Randle/
Robinson/Hart/Sims

Don’t really understand how clearing Rose makes sense. Not necessary with Fournier/Grimes and Toppin going. The numbers seem to work with that alone. After going above the cap to sign Robinson, I don’t really understand how moving Rose does anything but take Rose off our roster. For that reason, I think something is wrong/missing.

GustavBahler wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Dont like including Toppin. Thats too many young players and picks. Would like to have seen (if this is accurate) the FO wait wait until the roster was good enough for a deal like this to put them in contention. This deal likely doesnt do it. It does make us give up a lot to get to the middle of the pack.

It may also attract solid vets off the bench on melo level. A solid bench with that new starting 5 will make more noise than the middle of the pack.

blkexec wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Dont like including Toppin. Thats too many young players and picks. Would like to have seen (if this is accurate) the FO wait wait until the roster was good enough for a deal like this to put them in contention. This deal likely doesnt do it. It does make us give up a lot to get to the middle of the pack.

It may also attract solid vets off the bench on melo level. A solid bench with that new starting 5 will make more noise than the middle of the pack.

It will be a good starting 5 if Randle accepts, and excels in his new role. Whatever that is, now that we have an actual starting PG. He's played off the ball before. But Randle was at his best when he was grabbing a rebound and leading the break.

If we want to see quality role players want to join the Knicks. We're going to have to punch above our weight in the playoffs. I would imagine. Not taking a discount to get bounced in the first or second round. Why its important for the team to overachieve early on.

Seeing how this lineup works (pre-trade) would have allowed the FO to have a better idea of what needs fixing. Fournier hasnt played like back in his days with the Magic. But he hasnt benefited from stability at the PG spot either.

We might have found out that we didnt need such an expensive fix in the backcourt. At least for the next season or two

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Found this on Larry Brown Sports. Would be glad if its true.

The longer we wait, the more desperate ainge get and Dmitch value drops. Plus we have our young version already in Brunson, who destroyed Dmitch and the entire Utah team by himself. It’s a win win for us.

Very good article on the pros and cons of trading for Mitchell. Interesting dive into the numbers.

Ultimately we have to trust our coach on what players he needs to make his system work.

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Found this on Larry Brown Sports. Would be glad if its true.

Sure hope this is true! We could use this season to evaluate these young guys we are considering parting with... and if the right deal presents itself at the trade deadline we could make a more informed decision for sure!

Very much agree. A player(s) might become available, who is a better fit. Maybe not the same scoring threat, but a much better defender. Wont know if we shoot our load before we see what this team looks like with Brunson on the roster.

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GustavBahler wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

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Found this on Larry Brown Sports. Would be glad if its true.

Sure hope this is true! We could use this season to evaluate these young guys we are considering parting with... and if the right deal presents itself at the trade deadline we could make a more informed decision for sure!

Very much agree. A player(s) might become available, who is a better fit. Maybe not the same scoring threat, but a much better defender. Wont know if we shoot our load before we see what this team looks like with Brunson on the roster.

That player might already be on the team. His name is Grimes

SL showed Grimes improving. But the SL final also showed when the D tightened up, that he needs more seasoning. Right now Grimes looks like a solid backup.

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

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Found this on Larry Brown Sports. Would be glad if its true.

Sure hope this is true! We could use this season to evaluate these young guys we are considering parting with... and if the right deal presents itself at the trade deadline we could make a more informed decision for sure!

Very much agree. A player(s) might become available, who is a better fit. Maybe not the same scoring threat, but a much better defender. Wont know if we shoot our load before we see what this team looks like with Brunson on the roster.

That player might already be on the team. His name is Grimes

SL showed Grimes improving. But the SL final also showed when the D tightened up, that he needs more seasoning. Right now Grimes looks like a solid backup.

I could pencil in Grimes as a starter. He's definitely not a primary balhandler, but he can make some plays. I'd say he's overqualified for a Reggie Bullock type role right now. But I see his scoring topping out at the mid-teens throughout his career.

"Overqualified"? Not what I would expect to hear after one season.

BigDaddyG wrote:

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BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

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Found this on Larry Brown Sports. Would be glad if its true.

Sure hope this is true! We could use this season to evaluate these young guys we are considering parting with... and if the right deal presents itself at the trade deadline we could make a more informed decision for sure!

Very much agree. A player(s) might become available, who is a better fit. Maybe not the same scoring threat, but a much better defender. Wont know if we shoot our load before we see what this team looks like with Brunson on the roster.

That player might already be on the team. His name is Grimes

SL showed Grimes improving. But the SL final also showed when the D tightened up, that he needs more seasoning. Right now Grimes looks like a solid backup.

I could pencil in Grimes as a starter. He's definitely not a primary balhandler, but he can make some plays. I'd say he's overqualified for a Reggie Bullock type role right now. But I see his scoring topping out at the mid-teens throughout his career.

"Overqualified"? Not what I would expect to hear after one season.

His defense stood out and he can knockdown spots up shots. The 'overqualified' comment comment takes into account that he can actually dribble, something Bullock still struggles with.

Got it. Not saying Grimes cant get there, dont believe he's ready yet.