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BRIGGS
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6/24/2016  9:42 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:I know i'm late and its probably been discussed. But Thunder completely robbed Orlando with that Ibaka trade. Oladipo, #11 pick Sabonis & Elyosova. Ibaka is a good player but I don't feel he is worth all that.

Oladipo can probably be had if Westbrook stays now though.

Agree what was Orlando doing there?

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6/24/2016  9:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2016  9:49 AM
nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.
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6/24/2016  10:21 AM
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Chandler wrote:It was smart to stand pat and not overpay. The draft will inevitably create log jams and a lot of these guys or guys from last year will be looking for jobs in the not too distant future.

I agree with you but the one draw back is that some of these guys never get used and their skills tend to basically fall off the cliff. Situation is the most important aspect to these rookies and young players.

agree but let's be honest with ourselves. The most exciting thing, usually, about a second rounder is the hope that the organization knows about a diamond in the rough, or someone they can develop or stash

In this draft, it wasn't very exciting even in the first round, so I totally get Phil passing on the second when the rate went up. If we bought just for the sake of buying, that makes no sense. We'll have some already stashed players (including Labiere [sp?] who really has very quick hops and Wily) and a bunch of our D-league types to get excited about instead. For example, with the possible exception of the UVA guard, all the 2d-round SGs seem inferior to Jimmer to me, and I'm not a Jimmer fan

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6/24/2016  10:25 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:I know i'm late and its probably been discussed. But Thunder completely robbed Orlando with that Ibaka trade. Oladipo, #11 pick Sabonis & Elyosova. Ibaka is a good player but I don't feel he is worth all that.

Oladipo can probably be had if Westbrook stays now though.

Agree what was Orlando doing there?

makes no sense for either team IMO. Does Ibaka start, pushing back Gordon? Does Orlando know something about Oladipo, who IMO has underperformed and lacks consistency

OKC gave away a key piece to their team. They must be high on Sabonis to replace Ibaka or perhaps that Colorado kid who played well in the playoffs.

I personally think OKC has serious doubts about retaining KD and Westbrook and might be planning ahead.

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6/24/2016  10:27 AM
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

Are raptors fans confident that Derozan will stay? I didn't see them draft a contingency plan which I thought was telling

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6/24/2016  10:38 AM
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

The rumor was they were taking Skal at 9. They had another chance at 27. Do you know why they didn't take him?
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6/24/2016  10:52 AM
We wont know at least until camp if Phil sitting out the draft was a good or bad idea. Apparently this is the first time in 21 years that the Knicks didnt participate in the draft. Was this the worst draft class in 21 years? IDK. I do know that we just traded away a center in his prime and last year's first round pick for a PG who has a great deal of trouble staying on the court. Following that up with no pick in the draft for the first time since since 1995, and we still have a gutted roster.

As I said, the ramifications of staying out of the draft isn't clear yet, have to see how things develop, but I cant say the last couple of days have been particularly satisfying.
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6/24/2016  11:04 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:I know i'm late and its probably been discussed. But Thunder completely robbed Orlando with that Ibaka trade. Oladipo, #11 pick Sabonis & Elyosova. Ibaka is a good player but I don't feel he is worth all that.

Oladipo can probably be had if Westbrook stays now though.

Agree what was Orlando doing there?

I have no idea, particularly because it seemed like Aaron Gordon at PF was due for more PT. Now they'll have to max Fournier this summer and max Ibaka next summer... weird move.

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6/24/2016  12:35 PM
chandler: derozan staying has been a lock for months. he was never leaving. i wouldn't be surprised if he takes a slight discount.

crushalot: ujiri is as tightlipped as they come. no leaks/rumors from his side at all. the skal rumor was complete BS as we had a chance to get him at 27 and passed. ujiri likes smart players that are long, athletic and play defense but also are unselfish and move the ball. his one long term project was bruno but every other pick has been older. poeltl looks like he might be able to play right away.
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6/24/2016  12:36 PM
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

Were you at the draft?

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6/24/2016  12:49 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

Were you at the draft?

I thought we already established that DJ was there:

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6/24/2016  1:52 PM
martin wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

Were you at the draft?

I thought we already established that DJ was there:

I wasn't able to read through the thread. I'm just asking cuz I think I saw him on TV lol.

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6/24/2016  2:51 PM
lol - i wasn't there.
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6/24/2016  3:04 PM
djsunyc wrote:lol - i wasn't there.

What's ironic is it was during the Raptors picks. They showed a fan in a Raptors jersey standing up with his hands raised in celebration. And to the left of him was a dude in all blue that I could have sworn was you. Looked like Grant Hill with more facial hair. I was like that has to be DJ. Raptors, Grant Hill....

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6/24/2016  3:23 PM
martin wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
djsunyc wrote:nobody knows how any of these players will pan out but i'll just chime in on the raptors end:

poeltl - he reminds me alot of a 7'1 david lee that can play defense. already mentioned that we are going to use him as a pf and center. here's a video:

his hedge and recover on the pick and roll look very promising. i think ultimately, we may play him and jonas together some minutes like okc did with their bigs.

siakam - every single raptor fan was like "who" - and then we saw the vids and the scouting and it looks like we got a taller faried with a better offensive game at #27.

bismack is as good as gone but that's not a surprise.

Were you at the draft?

I thought we already established that DJ was there:

That kid and his dad trying to extend their 15 min of fame.
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