nixluva wrote:Woody has some problems. For one thing he said he was "happy with the 1st half defense". Woody also said "We gotta put some sets in tomorrow that are gonna help them when they're out their together" referring to Tyson and KMart. This guy doesn't already have some sets that include his 2 bigs, knowing we'd have to go bigger in the instance where we played the Pacers.

nixluva wrote:Woody has some problems. For one thing he said he was "happy with the 1st half defense". Woody also said "We gotta put some sets in tomorrow that are gonna help them when they're out their together" referring to Tyson and KMart. This guy doesn't already have some sets that include his 2 bigs, knowing we'd have to go bigger in the instance where we played the Pacers.

That sounds like a reasonable conclusion. Or maybe just not enough of those sets

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Whoever still thinks the Knicks are way better than the Pacers better wake up. This was a professional and solid all-around team letting the opposition know they are for real.

The Pacers really impressed me. They have solid outside shooting as well as great inside from Hibbert and West to mix with their tenacious defense. The Knicks are in for a tough series.

That is, if they care to show up.

Today being a Knicks fan felt pretty bad. Its not that they lost, but the way. They looked overmatched in every aspect of the game.

Really seemed like they didn't care. They tried a semi run with 5 minutes remaining in the fourth. Yeah, brilliant basketball.

The best thing we'be had this playoffs is Felt on and Shump. Yet Woody stayed with the Iso Melo and terrible J.R. and that didn't work. Tyson was completely useless and was painfully embarrassed by Hibbert.

If you still believe the Knicks can dominate this series, you are a better fan than me. The Pacers dominated in such a way and showed so much maturity that made me embarrassed to root for a bunch of head cases that weren't interested enough in playing active defense and went away from the little things that were working for them.

Its just one game, but being dominated for 48 minutes feels scary.

I wouldn't say that Knicks are way better than the Pacers. I'd say that we should be since we're in year 3 of rebuilding with max contract veterans and Indiana is good but not great (borderline top 10 team in the league).

Forget the rebuilding stage and focus on the players.

Pacers have a solid team with active pieces all around. Hibbert looked like Shaw out there. West, George, their bench all contributed greatly.

We seem to need a good game from Memo and J.R. to win. Tyson is garbage. Felt on is solid but Woody took the ball away from him at the start of the 2nd half when our comeback had to start. Shump and Prigs weren't given much chance, same with Cope.

We may have the pieces but we keep resorting to bad shots from Memo and J.R. to win and they simply suck right now. And I must add, Tyson is garbage.

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Whoever still thinks the Knicks are way better than the Pacers better wake up. This was a professional and solid all-around team letting the opposition know they are for real.

The Pacers really impressed me. They have solid outside shooting as well as great inside from Hibbert and West to mix with their tenacious defense. The Knicks are in for a tough series.

That is, if they care to show up.

Today being a Knicks fan felt pretty bad. Its not that they lost, but the way. They looked overmatched in every aspect of the game.

Really seemed like they didn't care. They tried a semi run with 5 minutes remaining in the fourth. Yeah, brilliant basketball.

The best thing we'be had this playoffs is Felt on and Shump. Yet Woody stayed with the Iso Melo and terrible J.R. and that didn't work. Tyson was completely useless and was painfully embarrassed by Hibbert.

If you still believe the Knicks can dominate this series, you are a better fan than me. The Pacers dominated in such a way and showed so much maturity that made me embarrassed to root for a bunch of head cases that weren't interested enough in playing active defense and went away from the little things that were working for them.

Its just one game, but being dominated for 48 minutes feels scary.

I wouldn't say that Knicks are way better than the Pacers. I'd say that we should be since we're in year 3 of rebuilding with max contract veterans and Indiana is good but not great (borderline top 10 team in the league).

Forget the rebuilding stage and focus on the players.

Pacers have a solid team with active pieces all around. Hibbert looked like Shaw out there. West, George, their bench all contributed greatly.

We seem to need a good game from Memo and J.R. to win. Tyson is garbage. Felt on is solid but Woody took the ball away from him at the start of the 2nd half when our comeback had to start. Shump and Prigs weren't given much chance, same with Cope.

We may have the pieces but we keep resorting to bad shots from Memo and J.R. to win and they simply suck right now. And I must add, Tyson is garbage.

I agree that they have a solid team - they're borderline top 10.

There are some changes that need to be made. Kidd should et less minutes and Cope more. Tyson and Martin should not be on the court together that is where Copeland should be in. Also, the D needs to be picked up. Augustine beat them down today. ALso, Camby needs a few minutes.

Melo moves to 3.

Decrease minutes to: Tyson, Kidd.

Increase to: Prigs, Shump, Copeland and Camby.

Must do: move the ball, PnR with Prigs and Felt on and whoever dogs it on defense gets the bench.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Start Copeland at PF.

Melo moves to 3.

Decrease minutes to: Tyson, Kidd.

Increase to: Prigs, Shump, Copeland and Camby.

Must do: move the ball, PnR with Prigs and Felt on and whoever dogs it on defense gets the bench.

The team is not going to win unless Tyson and Melo are on the floor and playing as well as they did during the regular season.

When did Tyson play well on the season? I remember the 20 rebs streak and some sporadic good games, but was he really solid for us on both ends of the floor for an extended period? Honest question because I don't remember.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Start Copeland at PF.

Melo moves to 3.

Decrease minutes to: Tyson, Kidd.

Increase to: Prigs, Shump, Copeland and Camby.

Must do: move the ball, PnR with Prigs and Felt on and whoever dogs it on defense gets the bench.

The team is not going to win unless Tyson and Melo are on the floor and playing as well as they did during the regular season.

When did Tyson play well on the season? I remember the 20 rebs streak and some sporadic good games, but was he really solid for us on both ends of the floor for an extended period? Honest question because I don't remember.

For most of the season our all-star center averaged a double double and was both the most efficient scorer and led the league in offensive rebounding. Anyone who doesn't overrate PPG should call his pre-all-star break performance outstanding.

True on the pure ASB.

He's never been the same since his injury, but right now looks like lack of effort.

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Start Copeland at PF.

Melo moves to 3.

Decrease minutes to: Tyson, Kidd.

Increase to: Prigs, Shump, Copeland and Camby.

Must do: move the ball, PnR with Prigs and Felt on and whoever dogs it on defense gets the bench.

The team is not going to win unless Tyson and Melo are on the floor and playing as well as they did during the regular season.

When did Tyson play well on the season? I remember the 20 rebs streak and some sporadic good games, but was he really solid for us on both ends of the floor for an extended period? Honest question because I don't remember.

Before the all-star break, his per 36 min #s were 13 points (on only 7 shots) and 64% FG and 12.2 rbs
After the break, they were 9 pts, 10 rbs