Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Democrats won the Senate popular vote by 6 million votes but Republicans control the Senate 52-48.
As Paul Waldman (Wash Post) put it, Republicans are now a minority party with near absolute power

Hillary leads the popular vote by roughly 1.2 mil and growing..Trump is heading to an Electoral College blowout...Doesn't this give anyone pause that the majority of the country isn't being represented by the people they voted for??...Shouldn't the other side be concerned if we all truly believe in Democracy. I was shock at the silence at Russian interference in our election from both parties..

The Electoral college reflects the true votes of the states. Do you want one state determine the outcome of the election because that is what is going to happen. What does a Californian have to do with a New Yorker or a Texan. These three state would garner majority of the attention politicians would cater to these populace state. How does a person from Wyoming or North Dakota get represented. The rule of the election is to get as many electorals as possible Hillary didn't do it and that is why she lost.

I don't want any intolerant liberals or extreme conservatives. I'm for the middle ground that is when our country is at its best.

I can't believe he is comparing a gov election to a Presidential. A governor represents ONE state. President 50 states lol

If it were up to me I would implement the electoral vote into state government elections. Separate them by towns/cities or counties that way individual states aren't misrepresented by flooded democratic cities either.

Bonn1997 wrote:

reub wrote:Saying that Trump didn't win the popular vote (which ignores the 3 million votes by illegal aliens) and only won because of the electoral college is like saying that the Warriors and Cavs only win games because they make more 3 point shots when their opponents actually make more overall baskets.

No, it would be more like saying the Warriors and Cavs only win games because the league set up a system where most of their opponents made shots don't count.

Ok.

reub's anaolgy is much more coherent. Yours is all emotion

gunsnewing wrote:

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Democrats won the Senate popular vote by 6 million votes but Republicans control the Senate 52-48.
As Paul Waldman (Wash Post) put it, Republicans are now a minority party with near absolute power

Hillary leads the popular vote by roughly 1.2 mil and growing..Trump is heading to an Electoral College blowout...Doesn't this give anyone pause that the majority of the country isn't being represented by the people they voted for??...Shouldn't the other side be concerned if we all truly believe in Democracy. I was shock at the silence at Russian interference in our election from both parties..

The Electoral college reflects the true votes of the states. Do you want one state determine the outcome of the election because that is what is going to happen. What does a Californian have to do with a New Yorker or a Texan. These three state would garner majority of the attention politicians would cater to these populace state. How does a person from Wyoming or North Dakota get represented. The rule of the election is to get as many electorals as possible Hillary didn't do it and that is why she lost.

I don't want any intolerant liberals or extreme conservatives. I'm for the middle ground that is when our country is at its best.

I can't believe he is comparing a gov election to a Presidential. A governor represents ONE state. President 50 states lol

If it were up to me I would implement the electoral vote into state government elections. Separate them by towns/cities or counties that way individual states aren't misrepresented by flooded democratic cities either.

Welpee wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Democrats won the Senate popular vote by 6 million votes but Republicans control the Senate 52-48.
As Paul Waldman (Wash Post) put it, Republicans are now a minority party with near absolute power

Hillary leads the popular vote by roughly 1.2 mil and growing..Trump is heading to an Electoral College blowout...Doesn't this give anyone pause that the majority of the country isn't being represented by the people they voted for??...Shouldn't the other side be concerned if we all truly believe in Democracy. I was shock at the silence at Russian interference in our election from both parties..

The Electoral college reflects the true votes of the states. Do you want one state determine the outcome of the election because that is what is going to happen. What does a Californian have to do with a New Yorker or a Texan. These three state would garner majority of the attention politicians would cater to these populace state. How does a person from Wyoming or North Dakota get represented. The rule of the election is to get as many electorals as possible Hillary didn't do it and that is why she lost.

I don't want any intolerant liberals or extreme conservatives. I'm for the middle ground that is when our country is at its best.

I can't believe he is comparing a gov election to a Presidential. A governor represents ONE state. President 50 states lol

If it were up to me I would implement the electoral vote into state government elections. Separate them by towns/cities or counties that way individual states aren't misrepresented by flooded democratic cities either.

Translation: lets create additional ways to manipulate the vote to reflect the outcome YOU want versus the will of the people. Great American you are.

Will of what the people? There are many different people.
The different States have majority of people voting for Dems and for Reps.
If we will abolish state system and have just regions then I am with you with direct voting system.

gunsnewing wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Democrats won the Senate popular vote by 6 million votes but Republicans control the Senate 52-48.
As Paul Waldman (Wash Post) put it, Republicans are now a minority party with near absolute power

Hillary leads the popular vote by roughly 1.2 mil and growing..Trump is heading to an Electoral College blowout...Doesn't this give anyone pause that the majority of the country isn't being represented by the people they voted for??...Shouldn't the other side be concerned if we all truly believe in Democracy. I was shock at the silence at Russian interference in our election from both parties..

The Electoral college reflects the true votes of the states. Do you want one state determine the outcome of the election because that is what is going to happen. What does a Californian have to do with a New Yorker or a Texan. These three state would garner majority of the attention politicians would cater to these populace state. How does a person from Wyoming or North Dakota get represented. The rule of the election is to get as many electorals as possible Hillary didn't do it and that is why she lost.

I don't want any intolerant liberals or extreme conservatives. I'm for the middle ground that is when our country is at its best.

LMAO... still thinking Trump is was the better choice? Man some people are in for a rude awakening. If you are white and rich America will indeed be great again.

Maybe but the rich white men have done better economically under Dems than Reps.

Trump is no Dem and no Rep.
He is CHANGE. For good or for bad we are going to find out.
He elected by people who had nothing to lose and were not afraid to challenge the status quo.
This is what Dems and all this predictors failed to realize.
By labeling Trump racist, sexist, and psycho they made it uncomfortable for people to publicly state support for his ticket.
They just went and silently vote for him.
Trump win is Hillary campaign team only achievement.

Next time it won't be even close. The liberal
Revolt is assuring that

This will be great.
Liberals after their win will have their turn to right the ship.
And we will have an opportunity to rate their body of work afterward.
This is much better that Bush/Obama lost decades.

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Welpee wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Democrats won the Senate popular vote by 6 million votes but Republicans control the Senate 52-48.
As Paul Waldman (Wash Post) put it, Republicans are now a minority party with near absolute power

"Democracy" at it's finest. And none of the Electoral College defenders have bother to answer my question on why we do not apply this same system for electing governors. Give each county electoral votes versus straight popular vote if this system is so great.

Crickets.

Is it still "Democracy" when the true vote totals of the electorate isn't reflected in it's leadership?

US thanks God is NOT a Democracy. US is Republic.
Republic is ruled by the power of elites.
And US is a FEDERAL state not mono-state.
States committed to the united country on specific conditions that they will be represented in central government adequately regardless of population size.
If this going to be changed every State will have a right to reconsider Union membership.
Only referendum in each state can practically accomplish this.
So - I am asking again.
Do you advocating for dissolution of United States based on political and cultural differences between Red and Blue States?

MaTT4281 wrote:

Welpee wrote:How about this: since more than half of the states don't require delegates to vote for a pledged candidate, what if the Trump electors decided to vote for Clinton instead? How would Trump supporters feel? It would be totally legal. Nothing to prevent it from happening other than their conscious. It's how the system is set up. Would they take their own advice and not whine and just accept it? Hmmmmm...this has been an unusual election so far. This election is not finalized YET.

This is the bargaining stage of grief.

I've seen that question a few different places now - can't see a scenario where that's done. Would be crazy though - Obama sitting in the Oval Office realizing he wasted an hour and a half with this man for no reason. The tweets alone would keep the media busy.

But the man has 49% support in this country for some disgusting reason. You think the protests are bad now over the popular vote? Imagine if they results did end flipping. Maybe we just need another civil war already and be done with it.

I'm in, get 'er done

markvmc wrote:So the proof that Clinton rigged the polls is that she lost, and that she hasn't asked for a recount.

I've heard it all now.

No, more this regarding the fraud:

Expert of voter fraud in Bev Harris says Hillary tried to steal election but lost. Start at 3:30 mark:: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5GrQwevhg
Votes were held back in Detroit, Wisconson, Michigan and Milwaukee, PE, and a bit more.
13% of illegals admit they vote, and quite a few were caught this election. http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/
Soros connected to voting machine in 16 States.
5 or so States are still not releasing the scanned images of the ballots as required by law. (Indiana, Virginia, Washington st., Utah, Kansas)
There is evidence Hillary Stole 5 States but still lost (and yeah, MSM is dying now -The NY Times have issued and apology for their coverage)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrqZvzGZuCo

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/pharris830/status/798950139935109122

Fraction magic anyone?

Expert of voter fraud in Bev Harris says Hillary tried to steal election but lost. Start at 3:30 mark:: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5GrQwevhg
Votes were held back in Detroit, Wisconson, Michigan and Milwaukee, PE, and a bit more.
13% of illegals admit they vote, and quite a few were caught this election. http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/
Soros connected to voting machine in 16 States.
5 or so States are still not releasing the scanned images of the ballots as required by law. (Indiana, Virginia, Washington st., Utah, Kansas)
There is evidence Hillary Stole 5 States but still lost (and yeah, MSM is dying now -The NY Times have issued and apology for their coverage)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrqZvzGZuCo

I welcome a recount but I think there is a reason Clinton hasn't asked for one. Hillary Cheated and still lost.

http://www.votefraud.org/
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

You keep saying this but I don't get it. Hillary lost the few states that matter by an amount that would be unlikely to change in a recount. Why would she ask for a recount?

I meant if they do a recount, it probably shows she cheated, big time (and still lost). Hence, why I don't think she even will hint at a recount. When you think about it, if the race is really close, no sense in not asking for one, can't "hurt", or can it?

Recounts are set to occur when a state is within 0.5%. That's automatic. Anything larger than that (and the swing states are more like 1.0%) a candidate would only ask if they had clear evidence that a recount would make a difference. I'm not aware of a candidate ever asking for a recount when the swing states were decided by more than 1.0%. Do you have any examples? She'd be breaking precedent and she'd look like a sore loser. She's doing the honorable thing. Rather than asking for a recount, she gave a graceful, genuine concession speech. You'd be criticizing her if she asked for a recount - "What a sore loser!" You'd be criticizing her for any possible action she could take.

Thanks for the information, just learned something. But my vote fraud worries (and links) still stand.

of course they still stand. Until Drudge removes the headlines you will still worry. You are a hardcore GOP mouthpiece

How you can take what a voting fraud expert says, in Bev Harris, and twist that into a site you disagree with is ingenue and shows how much you know, and more importantly, how little you care.
Worry less about the source and more about the message.

Mainstream Media is dying, we are all witnessing it. And now they are going after "fake news" sites (no linking allowed on Twitter, Facebook etc.) That is how bad things are getting for those in power. The Brexit, now Trump, they are absolutely losing control (and just in the Knick of time. )

I'm not a Republican, though I was a Democrat as a young man, now I'm just an Earthman, no box to put me in, but nice try.

Gregg Popovich decries Trump, troublesome appointment of Steve Bannon
Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich continued to express his frustrations with Donald Trump on Wednesday, again discussing the president-elect with reporters and calling the appointment of Steve Bannon as chief strategist “troublesome.”

Popovich was outspoken last week about Trump and the election, and has remained outspoken about America’s political state in wake of the results.

The selection of Bannon, the executive chairman of ultra-conservative and factually questionable Breitbart News, as a presidential advisor has drawn considerable ire. Bannon associates himself with the alt-right, which has been associated with white supremacy, among other stances.

Popovich’s comments on Bannon, Trump’s divisive campaign rhetoric and its implications for minorities were as follows, according to Tim Bontemps of The Washington Post.

“Well, I think is very troublesome to many of us. As I said, it would be great if made some statements to all of the groups he disparaged, to bring us all together, and to allay fears, because there are a lot of fearful people, and for good reason. But rather than doing that, he inflamed it even more with that appointment. It’s kind of ironic.