Posted by VDesai:

Posted by djsunyc:

veras DFA'd...

bout time. That guy flat out sucks. I'm glad they kept Robertson and Hughes up.

See I disagree. I know you guys don't like him and I know I really don't have two legs to stand on here because he's underachieved so far this year but I don't see how a team with legit bullpen problems just gives up on a guy with that type of stuff - here's a guy still in his 20s that when right throws 95+ with one of the better sliders for a reliever in the entire game. You just give up on this guy when we had options with other players like David Robertson? I heard Michael Kay say on the broadcast that the Yankees didn't want to send Robertson down to the minors, that he didn't deserve a demotion. WTF are you kidding me? What the hell has David Robertson done so far since he's been up? I know his numbers are decent but come on, has David Robertson really shown anyone that he's a lights-out, go-to guy for the 7th/8th inning at any time he's been up with the big club either this year or last year?? Tie game 2-2, 8th inning, Yankees/Red Sox at Fenway, fighting for the pennant later this year, Youkilis at the plate, 2nd and 3rd, 1 out. Robertson in to face Youkilis. Anyone feel good about that matchup? He's got pretty decent stuff and I like Robertson but they flat-out mismanaged their pitching resources here. Robertson needed to be sent down - that was the move to make. Not the first time they made this mistake - they stupidly gambled with Humberto Sanchez in a similar move a month or so ago and got damn lucky to get him back and now they pull the same nonsense with Veras. I don't get it. What happens if Bruney's not right and has to shut it down for good at some point, God forbid? Then what? Veras could've wound up being a major contributor for us from here on in, provided Eiland and co. could've gotten him straightened out somewhat. I mean wasn't he decent for us last year and the year before that? Yes he was. He made the team this spring based on what he did for us last year and the year before. Well kiss this guy goodbye - I give it 24 hours before someone snatches this guy up. Hopefully we can pull off a trade to at least get something for him rather than lose him for nothing but they shouldn't have even put themselves in this position - it didn't have to even come to this. Are we that good where we can just throw away quality arms like this in the trash can? Rediculous...

[Edited by - finestrg on 06-17-2009 01:49 AM]

Veras flat out sucks. He has no command at all. He's like 29 years old. Believe it or not there are a lot of guys floating around baseball throwing 95 mph that can't throw strikes. He got the most innings out of anyone in our bullpen and did nothing with em.

David Robertson is better than Veras now and is better than Veras will ever be.

We'll probably get someone very similar for him in a trade- a younger hard throwing reliever in AAA

Anyone know whats up with Humberto Sanchez? We got him from the Tigers I think a year ago and he had Tommy John surgery, but I remember he threw pretty damn hard before that surgery.

arod is guessing wrong on every pitch...

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Anyone know whats up with Humberto Sanchez? We got him from the Tigers I think a year ago and he had Tommy John surgery, but I remember he threw pretty damn hard before that surgery.

We cut him and brought him back. The injury really stunted his progress. Don't think he's pitched yet this year.

ah, ok.. thanks Des. Hopefully he can regain some of that form he had, he looked like he was going to be pretty good.

this lineup just got shut down by Craig Stammen??? what did i tell u guys, the way this team seems to struggle vs. no name pitchers is maddening... last night they couldn't do anything vs. John Lannan either, but i'll give them a pass cuz he's having a solid year for the Nats ERA wise this year... but seriously, do guys like this have any business dominating a lineup like ours? i don't think so... i think our team's scouting is a problem... they should know the tendencies of these guys... the fact that they haven't seen them is not an excuse, we should have better scouting reports & these hitters should be having a better approach to hitting these guys.

Yesterday was a weird game, Stammen didn't have good stuff, he was just throwing strikes we weren't getting great swings- then when we did we got stuffed by some good defensive plays, especially in the later innings. We didn't play typical Yankee baseball yesterday- didn't wear downt he pitcher, didn't draw walks- partly b/c the guy was just throwing fastballs and we just werne't getting hits.

Offense by nature is inconsistent. Having Jeter and Posada out in the same game definitely hurt too though.

A-Rod could be just slumping, could be still recovering from injury, or in the worst case scenario might never be close to the same player again. We're talking about his hip, not his toe nail. It's impossible for us to know which of these possibilities is the case.