Hersports85 wrote:Both defenses were bad, but the nuggets were disgusting . By the way, GS has a nice squad for years to come. If they can keep everyone together, I'll put them up there with OKC w/ more experience. Barnes is going to be really good.

Barnes abused Anthony Randolph something awful...He has all the tools to be a special player in this league...Curry and Thompson are lights-out shooters..Bright future indeed...

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:BULLS can easily get to a ecf and maybe shock Miami with Rose just as well as the Knicks can. Indy not so much. They can compete but like Denver lack the superstar.

However its to late for Rose to play now. Next yr its gonna be a dog fight. Miami likely getsvthe first seed and the Knicks will have to fight Chicago for the 2. This yr we were able to hold onto the 2 despite 3months of .500 ball. Next yr that wont fly. We have to get out of the gates like we did this yr and im confident we do because Woodson gets the most out of his training camps and dont look back

Denver scored 117 points. Lacking a superstar was the problem? They just need better D.

Normaly in high pace games you don't really need a superstar to score for you that often per say, because the game is much more open in general.
But when you're facing a more than average defensive team (which in most cases also means a slower tempo to the game), that's when you realise how important a superstar can be.

Bonn1997 wrote:A healthy Faried would have helped - maybe enough to make a difference. They're starting 4 guards. I'd like to see them do a twin tower lineup with Koufos and McGee but I'm sure Karl won't do that.

they gave up 131 pts to the GSW that didn't involve OT, they started for guards but manage only 10 fast break pts..

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:BULLS can easily get to a ecf and maybe shock Miami with Rose just as well as the Knicks can. Indy not so much. They can compete but like Denver lack the superstar.

However its to late for Rose to play now. Next yr its gonna be a dog fight. Miami likely getsvthe first seed and the Knicks will have to fight Chicago for the 2. This yr we were able to hold onto the 2 despite 3months of .500 ball. Next yr that wont fly. We have to get out of the gates like we did this yr and im confident we do because Woodson gets the most out of his training camps and dont look back

Denver scored 117 points. Lacking a superstar was the problem? They just need better D.

Don't act as if Golden State defense was any better. This series is simply who can out score the other team. Whoever shots are falling will win. Simple.

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:George Karl, Coach of the Year....MY ASS!

Guy always get outcoached in the playoffs. Only exception was when he had Gary Payton doing all the work in Seattle.

Dude he's been to 3 CF(with 3 different teams) and 1 Finals come on. The performance yesterday was DISGRACEFUL. Payton was a beast though and soon to be locked in HOFer.

Dude I know what George Karl is. Great regular season coach, lousy playoff coach. I still remember when he got Mutombo'ed in the 1st round after winning 63 games:

79 - 102 record, 43.6 winning percentage in the postseason. Not good.

playa2 wrote:Denver has a group of 2nd fiddle or 3rd fiddle guys(NO ALPHA DOG) who have no clue how to take over games in playoff crunch times. George Karl has an easy job, because nobody expects these guys to go far in the 2nd season, entertainment is the goal.

Golden State without their all-star David Lee, put Denver to sleep at their own crib.

Nuggicks fans here has been silent of the lambs as of late, they read this thread in silence and have no voice.Mark Jackson has out coached George Karl and should be up 2-0.

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

playa2 wrote:Denver has a group of 2nd fiddle or 3rd fiddle guys(NO ALPHA DOG) who have no clue how to take over games in playoff crunch times. George Karl has an easy job, because nobody expects these guys to go far in the 2nd season, entertainment is the goal.

Golden State without their all-star David Lee, put Denver to sleep at their own crib.

Nuggicks fans here has been silent of the lambs as of late, they read this thread in silence and have no voice.Mark Jackson has out coached George Karl and should be up 2-0.

It seems like you just keep repeating that talking point. Did you pay any attention to the game? They needed a star to take over in crunch time because they only managed to get 117 points?
They're starting 4 guards. They're decimated with injuries and they don't have $60 mil in backup, experienced replacement veterans that they can just throw out there.

I've seen this 4 guards comment come up multiple times. I wasn't able to watch the game, but it looks like of those 4, Iggy is a more than capable SF, and Wilson is a natural forward, who even played some PF for us in NY. Meanwhile, McGee is certainly available to play more minutes off the bench while they try and ease Faried back in (along with our other favorites - Anthony Magic Randolph and the Russian Hammer. )

This is my second series of interest though. I really do like the GS team, they can just light you up any night. 56% from 3 point land last night.

ChuckBuck wrote:George Karl, Coach of the Year....MY ASS!

Guy always get outcoached in the playoffs. Only exception was when he had Gary Payton doing all the work in Seattle.

Bonn1997 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

playa2 wrote:Denver has a group of 2nd fiddle or 3rd fiddle guys(NO ALPHA DOG) who have no clue how to take over games in playoff crunch times. George Karl has an easy job, because nobody expects these guys to go far in the 2nd season, entertainment is the goal.

Golden State without their all-star David Lee, put Denver to sleep at their own crib.

Nuggicks fans here has been silent of the lambs as of late, they read this thread in silence and have no voice.Mark Jackson has out coached George Karl and should be up 2-0.

It seems like you just keep repeating that talking point. Did you pay any attention to the game? They needed a star to take over in crunch time because they only managed to get 117 points?
They're starting 4 guards. They're decimated with injuries and they don't have $60 mil in backup, experienced replacement veterans that they can just throw out there.

I've seen this 4 guards comment come up multiple times. I wasn't able to watch the game, but it looks like of those 4, Iggy is a more than capable SF, and Wilson is a natural forward, who even played some PF for us in NY. Meanwhile, McGee is certainly available to play more minutes off the bench while they try and ease Faried back in (along with our other favorites - Anthony Magic Randolph and the Russian Hammer. )

This is my second series of interest though. I really do like the GS team, they can just light you up any night. 56% from 3 point land last night.

Maybe they're SG/SF combo players. All the websites list them as SGs. That's where they spend most of their minutes. They're both wing players. You definitely don't want either of them to be one of your two bigs.

I obviously don't watch him as much after the trade, but I didn't mind going small with Wilson at the 4 in NY. The whole point is that Denver does have size they can turn to. They just tried to match GS by playing small ball, and the Warriors came out on top with their 3 guards + Barnes.

On a side note, as a Knick fan, would have been fun to see both a healthy Gallo and healthy Lee meet in the playoffs. Hope for speedy recoveries for both of them.