djsunyc wrote:the whole wiki-leaks email/clinton foundation thing was nothing but noise. none of that mattered b/c clinton is still walking around and nobody got arrested. just campaign noise that trump successfully was able to manipulate the public into thinking it was bigger than it was.

every politician is corrupt. trump, as a business man, is just as corrupt and possibly even more.

now that he is in politics, i expect his corruption to reach unprecedented levels. trump company is private so they don't need to release taxes. he has his children running it and he can give them national clearance on his own once he's president.

and pence in court to prevent some of his emails being "leaked" - lol. you can't make this stuff up.

Just trying to cover up a casino expansion bribe, among other things, no biggie...

GustavBahler wrote:Nice to see.....

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.753161

Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

Less than a week after an election that left many minority and religious groups in the United States feeling disenfranchised, two important organizations – one Jewish and the other Muslim – announced an unusual alliance on Monday.

The American Jewish Committee and the Islamic Society of North America have teamed up to form a new national group of leading Jewish and Muslim Americans: The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council.

In a press release, the AJC said that the new group “brings together recognized business, political and religious leaders in the Jewish and Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common concern.”

Read more on Trump and American Jews: President Trump has shattered Jews' American idyll (Chemi Shalev) | 'You deserve to be gassed': Hate crimes skyrocket after Trump win (Debra Nussbaum Cohen) | To the Trump voter who just told me to leave the country (Bradley Burston) | Rabbis and congregants take to New York streets to protest (Jennie Kamin)

The co-chairs of the 31-member council are Stanley Bergman, CEO of the Henry Schein healthcare company, and Farooq Kathwari, president and CEO of the Ethan Allen furniture company.

Among its initial “action items,” the press release said, will be to “develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and anti-Semitism in the U.S.” and to “protect and expand the rights of religious minorities” in the country.

“Our two communities share so much in common and should find ways, where possible, to work together for the benefit of the entire country,” said Bergman.

The council members include religious and lay leaders from both communities. Among the most prominent names on the membership list is Joseph Lieberman, the former senator who was the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2000.

See? Trump is already healing divisions and uniting the country.

arkrud wrote:

markvmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Nice to see.....

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.753161

Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

Less than a week after an election that left many minority and religious groups in the United States feeling disenfranchised, two important organizations – one Jewish and the other Muslim – announced an unusual alliance on Monday.

The American Jewish Committee and the Islamic Society of North America have teamed up to form a new national group of leading Jewish and Muslim Americans: The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council.

In a press release, the AJC said that the new group “brings together recognized business, political and religious leaders in the Jewish and Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common concern.”

Read more on Trump and American Jews: President Trump has shattered Jews' American idyll (Chemi Shalev) | 'You deserve to be gassed': Hate crimes skyrocket after Trump win (Debra Nussbaum Cohen) | To the Trump voter who just told me to leave the country (Bradley Burston) | Rabbis and congregants take to New York streets to protest (Jennie Kamin)

The co-chairs of the 31-member council are Stanley Bergman, CEO of the Henry Schein healthcare company, and Farooq Kathwari, president and CEO of the Ethan Allen furniture company.

Among its initial “action items,” the press release said, will be to “develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and anti-Semitism in the U.S.” and to “protect and expand the rights of religious minorities” in the country.

“Our two communities share so much in common and should find ways, where possible, to work together for the benefit of the entire country,” said Bergman.

The council members include religious and lay leaders from both communities. Among the most prominent names on the membership list is Joseph Lieberman, the former senator who was the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2000.

See? Trump is already healing divisions and uniting the country.

The worst antisemits are liberal Jews...
So no surprise here.
They will make an alliance with Hitler if they were around at a time.
Actually people they created this alias with are in the same ballpark as Nazy anyways.

You would have made a great one....

arkrud wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

Unfortunately yes...
You can start petition zo to deport me together with all this deplorable's who voted for Trump...
And as me and all this people have no other citizenship the deportation should be to Mars pending Mask Mars colony buildup on Red Planet.

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

Unfortunately yes...
You can start petition zo to deport me together with all this deplorable's who voted for Trump...

Or maybe you will run into them and they will deport you.

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

Unfortunately yes...
You can start petition zo to deport me together with all this deplorable's who voted for Trump...

Or maybe you will run into them and they will deport you.

I am running into them all day long - they are the half of US population.
Never had any issues...

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

Unfortunately yes...
You can start petition zo to deport me together with all this deplorable's who voted for Trump...

Or maybe you will run into them and they will deport you.

I am running into them all day long - they are the half of US population.
Never had any issues...

You will......

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earthmansurfer wrote:Very good chance Assange is going to a be free man. Thank you Trump

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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/798110156336676864

Found this online, if you are not familiar with how Assange ended up in the situation he is in.

Sweden was in a plot with the US to get Assange to Sweden to give a statement on made up allegations, once it Sweden it is much easier to extradite him to the US for face espionage charges.
That is why he is in the embassy to start with, he was tipped off about what was going to go down.
Because of the tip off, he sought asylum with Ecuador. He offered to give a statement to the Swedish police from the embassy, as there is no case against him, this would mean the case was closed but of course, this rejected by Sweden.
Because of the arrest warrant Sweden put out, if Assange left the embassy he would be arrested and shipped from the UK to Sweden so he was imprisoned in the embassy. The UN rightly declared this unlawful imprisonment.
Now Obama has is going and Clinton lost, Sweden are trying to bring their made up case to a close, which means the arrest warrant is cancelled and Assange can leave his imprisonment in the embassy.

Note - Sweden's immigration policy (very open) is causing extreme problems in the country, bringing it down.

Bringing what down?

Sweden. It is in a tough spot from having such and open door policy. Here in Germany it is somewhat difficult but the country is pretty wealthy, it can withstand it so far.

Exactly what damage was caused to Sweden?

From people here in Germany with family/friends there, I hear there is an economic weight, which is nothing shocking but a growing problem is a lack of the Muslim cultures blending with Swedish culture (again, not a big shock).
This article is kind of light but gets into the economic points. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430633/refugees-economic-impact-sweden-not-light

I have friends in Italy and the immigration going on there, is really a much bigger problem and in more ways (e.g. violence). There is now talk of Italy leaving the EU. First Britain and my guess more will follow.

You know, you can just Google this all, it is a pretty talked about thing. I mostly say that as you don't agree with anything I say.

You're an immigrant, so can you stop your passive aggressive agenda of demonizing Muslim refugees who are fleeing a horrific war that we helped create. Thanks.

The truth is a lot of European countries have aging populations and their future will depend on a large influx of immigrants to make up the shortfall. The irony is that all these anti-immigrant inbreds who complain about immigrants ruining their country and stealing their jobs and benefits will be reliant on them in their old age.

Huh? I'm an American living in Europe temporarily. By definition, I'm not an immigrant. Regardless, no reason to take that tone and name call. Passive agenda? Hey, want to guess what my ancestry is?

You do realize that not all countries in the EU are receiving immigrants right? When Sweden, Italy and Germany get the brunt of them, it is going to create problems.

But you hit the nail on the head, these same policies of bombing that Hillary voted across the board for, created this tragedy.

I also understand Germany needs people, but having an open door policy from a country your ally is bombing, that does have terrorists, is a recipe for disaster.
Please, don't make this about me via your guilt by association.

So "immigrant" now qualifies as name calling? Guess we have very different standards for the spoken language as well.

Name calling means calling someone a name. Generally that name is derogatory or used derogatorily. Considering the context here and since you mostly know nothing about me except I'm an American living in Germany, you come up with - I am an immigrant? I don't know where you were going with that except that it is false. So, jump to the next attack and skip over my points.

Nice trying to blame the victim, typical.

My grandfather was from Syria. If we are helping to bomb Syria (or if Hillary was supplying weapons to ISIS to attack Assad), then we have a problem having an open door policy with Syria.
I have nothing against Syrians, I don't hate myself, just a problem with those creating this situation.

I came to US as Jewish refugee from Soviet Union (actually after Soviet Union already was gone).
I have no issues with people from war-torn countries like Syria coming to US.
But they have to be exposed to the same venting I was going over at a time.
It took me 5 years after the papers were first submitted to get to US.
I went to extensive interview to Moscow US embassy and background check.
Then in US I was under tight control over first 9 month with all required help for housing, food stamps, language and culture adaptation courses, and jog placement / retraining.
After all this infrastructure in place and financed for specific affordable quota of refugees we can let people in.
Just take people in and put them in camps/ghettos is dangerous, counterproductive, and inhuman.

In general liberal agenda is not bad in principal. The problem is that it has nothing to do with real life.
Most of the things they stand for are utopia fantasies. And when real life polices are build on this real people are facing terrible consequences. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions indeed...

Is it too late deport you?

Unfortunately yes...
You can start petition zo to deport me together with all this deplorable's who voted for Trump...

Or maybe you will run into them and they will deport you.

I am running into them all day long - they are the half of US population.
Never had any issues...

You will......

Doubt it.
I am obeying all laws and cultural taboo and treat everybody with respect.
If there are some places where locals leave life not acceptable to me I am not going this places.
If in some areas or countries I am not welcome I will not go there too.
Let them mind their own business.

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GustavBahler wrote:Nice to see.....

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.753161

Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

Less than a week after an election that left many minority and religious groups in the United States feeling disenfranchised, two important organizations – one Jewish and the other Muslim – announced an unusual alliance on Monday.

The American Jewish Committee and the Islamic Society of North America have teamed up to form a new national group of leading Jewish and Muslim Americans: The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council.

In a press release, the AJC said that the new group “brings together recognized business, political and religious leaders in the Jewish and Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common concern.”

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The co-chairs of the 31-member council are Stanley Bergman, CEO of the Henry Schein healthcare company, and Farooq Kathwari, president and CEO of the Ethan Allen furniture company.

Among its initial “action items,” the press release said, will be to “develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and anti-Semitism in the U.S.” and to “protect and expand the rights of religious minorities” in the country.

“Our two communities share so much in common and should find ways, where possible, to work together for the benefit of the entire country,” said Bergman.

The council members include religious and lay leaders from both communities. Among the most prominent names on the membership list is Joseph Lieberman, the former senator who was the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2000.

See? Trump is already healing divisions and uniting the country.

The worst antisemits are liberal Jews...
So no surprise here.
They will make an alliance with Hitler if they were around at a time.
Actually people they created this alias with are in the same ballpark as Nazy anyways.

You would have made a great one....

No...
Hitler was liberal national-socialist.
He just never treat anybody but Arians as people.
I am conservative, so no chance.

Hitler was not a liberal, I can't believe anyone would call him that.