martin wrote:And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.

Not worth it. I know more about the ugly side of the Democratic party than most. The real stuff. Even I have to acknowledge there is something worse out there. Anyone who still cant see that, after all the evidence. Shows why "it CAN happen here".

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.

Hillary Clinton abd Joe Biden are fakes. They are dishonest they are racists they do everything you said trump does. Again I don’t think it’s much of an upgrade. But I’m not a participant this time around and I really don’t care who wins—

wow I guess I didn't expect this level of dumb****ery from you. You keep exposing yourself man and it's sad. Petulant child who can't get what he wants level of denying and projecting. I'm astounded.

Anyway, that's enough from you, it's definitely not worth it.

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https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/1320901441272373250

There won't be a civil war after the election — just think about the mechanics of it

As a professor of political science, I’ve been getting a great many questions lately, from smart informed folks (like the readers of this newspaper). It’s definitely not a question I ever thought would become routine: “Are we going to have a civil war over the election?”

The answer is: No! And at this point, that’s as good as it gets.

There are a couple of key reasons for this, which can be grouped under the general categories of the practical and the theoretical.

Beginning with the practical: The Constitution is a marvelous thing. It even schedules when the president takes the oath of office: Jan. 20, dead of winter. That means, quite simply, it’s cold, very, very cold. Everyone just wants to stay home next to a roaring fire and quaff gallons of brandy all day — hardly an ideal fighting force of any sort.

The reader may think, “yeah, but we have heaters now.” Sure, and that’s the first thing that will go if a civil war materialized. All utilities gone; just ask the good people that went through the derecho how fun that was. Next (and I’m taking this pattern from real-life experience seeing exactly how a modern civil war takes place — Iraq), other “soft targets” will be eliminated. Armed militias need not, and do not, initially go after “hard targets,” like the military or police. No, they go after teachers. Teachers, shot by the thousands in Iraq. Then the bakers. Then the sanitation workers. It doesn’t take long to absolutely ruin a city: no schools, no bread, and disgusting garbage everywhere, which then leads to uncontrollable outbreaks of deadly diseases like cholera.

Forget about hospitals, and doctors — the former have been blown up, and the latter have gone to Canada. Here, the reader may think, “OK, everyone knows that civil war is terrible, but what if the radicals on whatever side just go ahead anyway and —” Wait right there. What radicals? Have you seen some of these militia types? They have much greater need for cardio than for the tactical weapons they hold dear. Two nights in a cold tent, without the internet, without pizza, without prescriptions, and they are done.

So much for the practical outlook for civil war in this country. The theoretical dimension is just as damning.

What we know from the modern history of civil war is that the leader of the country (whether legitimate or not) must have two things going for him (and, yes, it’s always a “him” when it comes to chaos and widespread violence) in order to survive a civil war. One, the full backing of the country’s military apparatus, and two, the full backing of the country’s secret police and intelligence apparatuses (for example, the FBI and the CIA). In this country, the president lacks, utterly, either of those two fundamental requirements. It will, someday, be seen as fortunate that the current president’s administration has been most aptly described as “malevolence tempered by incompetence.” We’ll be OK; this time. 

Evan Renfro

Evan Renfro is a professor of political science at the University of Northern Iowa, and a veteran. The views expressed are his alone.

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BRIGGS wrote: I’d rather have mike pence as president

Heck no. He's probably one of the last people in world you'd want spearheading a plan to deal with the current pandemic. And that's leaving out all of the other major concerns I have.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/pence-moved-slowly-in-combating-hiv-outbreak/

The outbreak of HIV was linked to extensive use by Scott County residents of a prescription opioid painkiller called Opana, which was taken off the market in 2017. Needle-sharing was common in the area, where many members of a family often live in the same house.

Experts say that in situations like the one in Scott County needle exchange programs are essential. But Pence, a social conservative, was very much opposed to them, seeing them as contributing to drug abuse. (According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, however, syringe services programs “do not cause or increase illegal drug use.”) It took much lobbying by other officials to get Pence to give the program — which was illegal in Indiana — the green light.

On March 23, 2015, months after the outbreak began, Pence said he was going home to pray on the issue, according to the New York Times. Soon afterward he declared a public health emergency and approved the program. “It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Ed Clere, a Republican state representative who championed the needle exchange, told the Times in 2016.

Pence hits me as the typical religious hypocrite. The one that eventually gets caught on video doing some crazy ****. He is worse than Trump. Pence goes around acting like the pope yet he sold his soul to work for the devil. At least Trump does not go around pretending he is not a scumbag.

Dennis Smith and CP3 helping get the vote out.

"Listen," the owner mused, "I'm so worried about Biden's regulations, so I'm funding as much as I can privately and confidentially to get Trump reelected. I know he's crazy, and I hope Democrats take the House and the Senate, but then Trump can block stuff and protect us on the taxes and regulation."

The source who was present is involved in ownership groups across leagues, and that source relayed that moment in response to a question:

Are professional sports team owners making political donations privately, in ways that not only shield their identity but shield them from backlash from their own players, staffers and fans?

The answer was a resounding yes -- and it happens regularly.

"There's no question," the source said.

"The overwhelming majority of sports team owners are Republicans. And they are very concerned about taxes, obviously, and regulation for their businesses."

America badly needs fixing

Amy Coney Barret, Justice Roberts, & Justice Kavanaugh were all lawyers who worked the Republican side of the Bush vs Gore recount scandal.

If election is close. They will look to steal the election like they did for Bush in 2000.

Kavanaugh has already been ruling towards voter suppression in Wisconsin.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/brett-kavanaugh-voter-suppression-wisconsin-mistakes.html

This is where we are as a country and it sucks. I hope he gets outed within the year

http://theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/31/biden-harris-bus-texas-trump-supporters-highway