martin wrote:Lin's reaction is priceless;

This makes me hate Amar'e and Melo SO MUCH!

loweyecue wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:We lost this game because of Amare and Melo's defense. Simple as that.

I tell you what. Watching Amare play defense and knowing that he played with Nash all of those years, it makes me wonder if we under-rate Bell, Marion, etc as defenders and also pushes me to the fact that MDA may have pushed the right offensive buttons for those teams to burst past San Antonio and whomever else they beat in a couple of those years to make it to WCF.... and game 7's too.

Amare at C and Nash at PG, 2 integral parts of any defense and holy crap he is garbage.

It makes you appreciate MDA more seeing how he PHX teams were still somewhere in the middle defensively. And people critisize him for not adapting to the players he has and making it work. Blaming the coach is sofa king easy.

Anji wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

martin wrote:Lin's reaction is priceless;

This makes me hate Amar'e and Melo SO MUCH!

Com on, I know it's useless but the our team was getting killed on the offensive boards against a good offensive rebounding team. But that play was a fluke play. BJ scopes a under handed shot that hits nothing and basically turned into a alleyoop to Gooden and DG is in the right poistion to get a strong enough tap to IV for a put back before the clock runs out in .6 seconds.

That was a really really break. The team played really good in the 4th and hopefully they build on that.

nixluva wrote:Also it's becoming increasingly clear to the rest of the team that STAT and Melo are messing up. The non superstars on the team know whats going on and what the right rotation and play is supposed to be. In that instance after Lin plays his ass off on D, his guys are supposed to be finding their man and blocking out, but bad habits of not doing that properly come back to bite you, as STAT isn't really in front of Gooden and Melo isn't in contact with his man at all.

It was a fluke play only if you agree that STAT used the proper technique to block out Gooden for that rebound, which he didn't. He's using his arms are is Melo rather than putting his body between Gooden and the ball. That's why Gooden was able to reach out and tap the ball. Poor technique which came back to bite STAT and Melo in that play. When that ball was thrown up, STAT should have had Gooden on his back blocking him out and not even with him under the rim. Melo was just plain out of position period.

It's all so true.

To gauge if a player did the right thing, you will look at how he looks at the moment the play is complete. Melo and Amar'e both look like two big dufus standing under the basket while everyone else is out playing basketball.

F'ckin brainless.

Anji wrote:

nixluva wrote:Also it's becoming increasingly clear to the rest of the team that STAT and Melo are messing up. The non superstars on the team know whats going on and what the right rotation and play is supposed to be. In that instance after Lin plays his ass off on D, his guys are supposed to be finding their man and blocking out, but bad habits of not doing that properly come back to bite you, as STAT isn't really in front of Gooden and Melo isn't in contact with his man at all.

It was a fluke play only if you agree that STAT used the proper technique to block out Gooden for that rebound, which he didn't. He's using his arms are is Melo rather than putting his body between Gooden and the ball. That's why Gooden was able to reach out and tap the ball. Poor technique which came back to bite STAT and Melo in that play. When that ball was thrown up, STAT should have had Gooden on his back blocking him out and not even with him under the rim. Melo was just plain out of position period.

That is BS, the exact moment when BJ takes a scoop shot DG and EI are picking between each other. That's a fluke because if the ball hit's the rim we have time to fight for the rebound and if BJ doesn't shoot right then Melo and Amare aren't in the positions they are in with the ball missing the rim by four feet exactly where DG is standing.

That play was a bad very break, though the team rebounding was lacking all game with our Amare and Melo being the only rebounders on the court, that play wasn't way the game was lost. I see how that is a gauge for anything going on with the team.

Man I don't know what you're talking about. STAT and Melo both used poor block out technique and Melo wasn't even in position defensively as he had left his man Ilyasova completely. If STAT had turned and completely blocked out Gooden as proper technique would suggest then Gooden would have to reach over STAT's back to get a hand on the ball. Melo should've kept contact with his man Ilyasova and also blocked him out and even if Gooden did manage to get a hand on the ball and tip it, Melo would've been in proper position to rebound the ball.

You need to go and study up on proper BB basics, cuz if you don't see that both STAT and Melo did the wrong things on that play then I have to question your BB knowledge.

Anji wrote:

Look I know you know every thing, but that was a crazy play. I don't what hell you are talking about reaching over stats back, the ball was sailing out of bounds and went exactly to the area DG was standing in. DG had to move back before jumped.

Second if you look at the replay you'll notice that because Melo saw the ball was going nowhere near the rim he decided to go and get the ball and not go to IE. I don't think either guy should be killed for that play because it was basically a fluke play. If the ball hits the rim I believe we get that ball, it was a terrible break. Yeah stat isn't known for rebounding and Melo is a smallforward, that play was just the worst of any situation.

Guy, at no time when you are in that situation should there be a guy two feet from the rim with no one near him.

Just the fact that Illasinova was in all that space, as if he were in a great plain of grass, is enough to tell you that there was a huge ****-up on the play. And, not surprisingly, it's on the usual suspects.

DJMUSIC wrote:One play last night capped Knicks from winning a great game for them.

Believed the Knicks were down by 1 close to under one minute left or so
Few passes were made, believed one of the guards (Baron or Lin?) may have been Lin since Davis may have left the game.
Melo touched the ball. I think he passed it to Amare whom seemed like he was 6 - 7 ft out near the paint and Stoudemire
kicked the ball out to another Knick for a worst shot & That was the game.

Believe the NY fouled on the play.

Amare had a shot & didnt want the rock.

Hahahaha, yea. It was "one play".

It was THE BUCKS they were playing.

How many max-contract guys do the BUCKS have?

Oh, yea.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Anji wrote:

Look I know you know every thing, but that was a crazy play. I don't what hell you are talking about reaching over stats back, the ball was sailing out of bounds and went exactly to the area DG was standing in. DG had to move back before jumped.

Second if you look at the replay you'll notice that because Melo saw the ball was going nowhere near the rim he decided to go and get the ball and not go to IE. I don't think either guy should be killed for that play because it was basically a fluke play. If the ball hits the rim I believe we get that ball, it was a terrible break. Yeah stat isn't known for rebounding and Melo is a smallforward, that play was just the worst of any situation.

Guy, at no time when you are in that situation should there be a guy two feet from the rim with no one near him.

Just the fact that Illasinova was in all that space, as if he were in a great plain of grass, is enough to tell you that there was a huge ****-up on the play. And, not surprisingly, it's on the usual suspects.

Marbs
I agree with you

but here i go again, when is it the coaches responsibility? to let his stars know ?
You'd see D'Antoni yelling like crazy at Shump, at Fields and Toney (when he was in rotation & can play a bit)

NEVER ever do you see this this guy MDA saying squat to Amare or Melo when the constantly break down plays on D or missed things
left or right. The kinda emotion and anger J.Lin showed is same thing Ty Chandler with gripe and snipe and he dont care if
Amare is on floor or Melo for bl_own plays or boxing out.

You'd think Phil Jackson Or Doc Rivers or Popovich would give a hoot ? about yelling at them allstars if they needed if Jackson could care less if your Shaq Kobe MJ or Pippen to get his point across. Coaches can be firm with each player regardless of star status

DJMUSIC wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Anji wrote:

Look I know you know every thing, but that was a crazy play. I don't what hell you are talking about reaching over stats back, the ball was sailing out of bounds and went exactly to the area DG was standing in. DG had to move back before jumped.

Second if you look at the replay you'll notice that because Melo saw the ball was going nowhere near the rim he decided to go and get the ball and not go to IE. I don't think either guy should be killed for that play because it was basically a fluke play. If the ball hits the rim I believe we get that ball, it was a terrible break. Yeah stat isn't known for rebounding and Melo is a smallforward, that play was just the worst of any situation.

Guy, at no time when you are in that situation should there be a guy two feet from the rim with no one near him.

Just the fact that Illasinova was in all that space, as if he were in a great plain of grass, is enough to tell you that there was a huge ****-up on the play. And, not surprisingly, it's on the usual suspects.

Marbs
I agree with you

but here i go again, when is it the coaches responsibility? to let his stars know ?
You'd see D'Antoni yelling like crazy at Shump, at Fields and Toney (when he was in rotation & can play a bit)

NEVER ever do you see this this guy MDA saying squat to Amare or Melo when the constantly break down plays on D or missed things
left or right. The kinda emotion and anger J.Lin showed is same thing Ty Chandler with gripe and snipe and he dont care if
Amare is on floor or Melo for bl_own plays or boxing out.

You'd think Phil Jackson Or Doc Rivers or Popovich would give a hoot ? about yelling at them allstars if they needed if Jackson could care less if your Shaq Kobe MJ or Pippen to get his point across. Coaches can be firm with each player regardless of star status

Several reasons for this:

1. Guys are supposed to be the Big Kahunas, he treats them like this but they fail miserably because they are little boys not fit for leadership.

2. The Front Office doesn't work with MDA at all. New York ALWAYS pits the Coach against the rest of the team, as if they were competing against each other! It's the most absurd way of running a sports team.

Dolan and his Starphuck Love Child Carmelo would eat MDA's ass if he barked at him.