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matt wrote:We need to clinch that spot asap so amare can rest.. He looks so different

Carrying a team on your back for 50 games will do that to a guy.

That's funny. LeBron did that with Cleveland and he didn't get 1 rebound and play no defense.

Are you seriously comparing STAT to Lebron?

Do you understand what I am saying? Clearly you don't. I am comparing their competitive spirit. It's obvious Amar'e only has one on the offensive end.

1 rebound is unacceptbale but he blocked a few shots. It's not like he didn't try to play D, he's just not very good at it.

He doesn't try. The "not being very good at it" thing is a lame excuse. He has all the physical tools. He just doesn't put them to use.

All I'm saying is the guy is tired. Feel free to disagree.

He has been the same way his entire career.

The guy carried this team for almost the entire year. He'll be fine with some rest and ready for the playoffs. We all know Amar'e strength is not defense. The Knicks got the W tonight, lets leave the negativity for the next loss when the shift can go back to Melo.

So glad we won. We still need to tighten up our defence. Still I am happy with the win.

islesfan wrote:No thoughts on Antoni failing to get his team prepared and coming out flat which led to giving up an embarrassing 68 points at halftime?

if you are going to make that assertion, back it up.

Let us know what you saw.

nixluva wrote:

islesfan wrote:

martin wrote:GameNotes:

- If Melo plays like he has over the past 2 games - even without the 40 point output, say just 25 - I'd def call him a top 10 player easily. But he gotta give that defensive effort every game.

- Amare is worse on D than Melo. Zero ball recognition.

- Billups may have the nickname BigShot, but I am beginning to think that it's just a factor of him shooting so much/too much with the game on the line rather than something else. Couple of not so good decisions that a better team would have been able to recover from, Nets just sucked.

- Sheldon plays with poise, or perhaps with just little expression. Never rushed, mostly does the simple things. Don't mind him as 3rd big off bench.

- Amare played without leg sleeves and knee pads for the first time in about 20-30 games.

- Anyone notice that when guys were on bench they were all wrapped in blue towels instead of the normal white Gatorade logo variety?

- My god Knicks' bench is thin. MDA is forced to play like 5 guys who are normally 10th guy or lower on bench.

No thoughts on Antoni failing to get his team prepared and coming out flat which led to giving up an embarrassing 68 points at halftime?

You really believe that the lack of effort on D by the Knicks has something to do with MIke not preparing them? At what point in a players career do you suddenly realize that you have to play hard on both ends of the floor. Elementary School, High School, College, Pros? Come on man this crap you spew has got to stop. It's always on the players to play hard. I'm pretty sure that they get a lot of speeches to the effect of playing hard and defending, hitting the boards. Seems to me that the guys who want to defend always defend. TD, AC etc. Why is it they always play hard on D and some others always seems to give little effort?

Hate to kill your speech but TD's defense is overrated...now his defensive potential is great but he makes horrible mistakes scheme and strategy wise.

What would you say is the Coach's job then? And what circumstances would need to occur for you to deem a Coach doing a poor job?

ITs a leadership statement. Can't say if Karl ever made such demands on him in denver (would assume so) but its very telling.

The "D" Amare is playing is consistent with his career. Not a surprise. We'll have to address this with a roster addition in the off season. Turiaf is missed and we never replaced Moz.

Keep the game close, trade baskets, put on a good show and a few stops down the stretch is "Winning".

Its not championship caliber, but that is not what we are about yet.

orangeblobman wrote:Just looking at the box score, this isn't good.

Do we need the top 3 players to score between 80-100 points every game?

No one else even broke double digits. I am so scared, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I would prefer that this not be the norm but this will happen from time to time. The boys in Miami combined for something like 96 points last night.

islesfan wrote:

martin wrote:GameNotes:

- If Melo plays like he has over the past 2 games - even without the 40 point output, say just 25 - I'd def call him a top 10 player easily. But he gotta give that defensive effort every game.

- Amare is worse on D than Melo. Zero ball recognition.

- Billups may have the nickname BigShot, but I am beginning to think that it's just a factor of him shooting so much/too much with the game on the line rather than something else. Couple of not so good decisions that a better team would have been able to recover from, Nets just sucked.

- Sheldon plays with poise, or perhaps with just little expression. Never rushed, mostly does the simple things. Don't mind him as 3rd big off bench.

- Amare played without leg sleeves and knee pads for the first time in about 20-30 games.

- Anyone notice that when guys were on bench they were all wrapped in blue towels instead of the normal white Gatorade logo variety?

- My god Knicks' bench is thin. MDA is forced to play like 5 guys who are normally 10th guy or lower on bench.

No thoughts on Antoni failing to get his team prepared and coming out flat which led to giving up an embarrassing 68 points at halftime?

nyk4ever wrote:

Nalod wrote:Melo stated after the game he thought if he played hard on defense the team would follow suit.

ITs a leadership statement. Can't say if Karl ever made such demands on him in denver (would assume so) but its very telling.

The "D" Amare is playing is consistent with his career. Not a surprise. We'll have to address this with a roster addition in the off season. Turiaf is missed and we never replaced Moz.

Keep the game close, trade baskets, put on a good show and a few stops down the stretch is "Winning".

Its not championship caliber, but that is not what we are about yet.

that is exactly what myself, martin and fish have been saying since this team started it's tailspin. whether the coach preaches it or not, it's up to the players to put in the EFFORT to play defensively. when the top-dogs on the team do something, the rest follow.

Yup- the best teams always have a "coach on the floor" type player or motivator.

I've been a coach (not BB)for 20 years+, and there is no substitute for good player leadership, whether that leadership comes from setting an example on the floor or in practice, or getting in someone's face.

FoeDiddy wrote:

nixluva wrote:

islesfan wrote:

martin wrote:GameNotes:

- If Melo plays like he has over the past 2 games - even without the 40 point output, say just 25 - I'd def call him a top 10 player easily. But he gotta give that defensive effort every game.

- Amare is worse on D than Melo. Zero ball recognition.

- Billups may have the nickname BigShot, but I am beginning to think that it's just a factor of him shooting so much/too much with the game on the line rather than something else. Couple of not so good decisions that a better team would have been able to recover from, Nets just sucked.

- Sheldon plays with poise, or perhaps with just little expression. Never rushed, mostly does the simple things. Don't mind him as 3rd big off bench.

- Amare played without leg sleeves and knee pads for the first time in about 20-30 games.

- Anyone notice that when guys were on bench they were all wrapped in blue towels instead of the normal white Gatorade logo variety?

- My god Knicks' bench is thin. MDA is forced to play like 5 guys who are normally 10th guy or lower on bench.

No thoughts on Antoni failing to get his team prepared and coming out flat which led to giving up an embarrassing 68 points at halftime?

You really believe that the lack of effort on D by the Knicks has something to do with MIke not preparing them? At what point in a players career do you suddenly realize that you have to play hard on both ends of the floor. Elementary School, High School, College, Pros? Come on man this crap you spew has got to stop. It's always on the players to play hard. I'm pretty sure that they get a lot of speeches to the effect of playing hard and defending, hitting the boards. Seems to me that the guys who want to defend always defend. TD, AC etc. Why is it they always play hard on D and some others always seems to give little effort?

Hate to kill your speech but TD's defense is overrated...now his defensive potential is great but he makes horrible mistakes scheme and strategy wise.

What would you say is the Coach's job then? And what circumstances would need to occur for you to deem a Coach doing a poor job?