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6/4/2009  7:32 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

tex for mvp?

if he's elected MVP he needs to cut that trophy in half & give the other half to ARod.
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6/4/2009  7:34 PM
We won the game, what else can you say, that's the way this team's built. When everyone is healthy, we can put up enough runs to pick up a pitcher coming off the DL. Wang is going to need more starts to get in his groove and he can count on this team to get the win even if he struggles. That's called chemistry and it's a good thing. This team is playing with alot of confidence and I like it. You can dog Wang all you want, but he's a starter and he's going to start as long as he's healthy.
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6/4/2009  7:38 PM
Posted by Finestrg:

Speaking of minor leaguers - what do you guys make of Austin Jackson's year so far at Scranton?

48 G, .346 AVG, 179 AB, 62 H, 11 2B, 3 3B, 0 HR, 23 RBI, 20 BB, 51 SO, 11 SB, 0 CS, .422 OBP

Interesting stats. Looks like A-Jax might project to be a quality average hitter with nice gap power but might not neccessarily be a big HR threat power, although it's still early and sometimes power develops later with some guys (Bernie comes to mind right away). Strikeout totals are a little alarming but he's fast and is supposed to be a quality OFer with a plus arm. Might be looking at a Robinson Cano-type offensive player only with better speed plus the legit OF skills. I'll take that.


Jesus Montero looking great so far this season btw (#s for Tampa):

48 G, .356 AVG, 180 AB, 64 H, 15 2B, 1 3B, 8 HR, 37 RBI, 14 BB, 26 SO, .422 OBP, .583 SLG, .989 OPS

I know we're talking A ball but those are awesome numbers. Only 26 SOs for a big power hitter is impressive. Montero just got the call up to Trenton and in his 1st game he went 1-4 with an RBI.

Two real nice prospects for us to look forward to..

[Edited by - finestrg on 06-04-2009 2:56 PM]

from what little i've seen of Austin Jackson, & his swing, he reminds me somewhat of Torii Hunter at the plate... quick righty stroke w/some pop... he hasn't hit for power this year at AAA but he did hit 10 HR's in just 258 AB's in Tampa in '07, so we know he can hit the longball... he'll probably get stronger as he gets older, i think he can easily project to a Torii Hunter type player at the plate... dunno if his defense even comes close to stacking up tho, we'll have to see on that.

as for Montero i don't think he'll be our C of the future, he's more of a 1B/DH type prospect in my view... i think he'll most likely be a prospect we end up trading at some point when a big need arises.
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6/4/2009  7:41 PM
Posted by Rookie:

We won the game, what else can you say, that's the way this team's built. When everyone is healthy, we can put up enough runs to pick up a pitcher coming off the DL. Wang is going to need more starts to get in his groove and he can count on this team to get the win even if he struggles. That's called chemistry and it's a good thing. This team is playing with alot of confidence and I like it. You can dog Wang all you want, but he's a starter and he's going to start as long as he's healthy.

Wang has to remain in the rotation, he's a starter, period... u don't keep unproven prospects in the rotation over proven 19 game winners... Hughes will get more chances to prove himself eventually, he's still young & it's not like he was pitching lights out as a starter anyways this year.

it's scary how good this team can be once Wang gets his groove back & ARod starts hitting the way we know he can hit... then when we get Bruney back, forget it, game over.
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6/5/2009  12:39 AM
Posted by TMS:
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Jackson would be up right now if we really needed outfield help. As it is pencil him in to start next year. Montero's bat is way ahead of his glove. Still not sure what his position is gonna be, but its probably not catcher.

he projects as a 1B/DH type player if u ask me... he'll probably end up being trade bait eventually... i think Cervelli has a better shot of succeeding Jorge than Montero does.

& i wouldn't bank on Jax starting for us next season... this is just his 1st season at the AAA level & he's only 22... i think he'll get a late season call up this season & then depending on how he does in ST next year they'll decide if he's ready to be thrown into the fire or not... i still think the Yanks will look to sign a short term solution in the OF if Damon, Matsui & Nady are allowed to sign w/other teams, or if the latter 2 are allowed to walk & Damon is signed to be a fulltime DH... someone like Jermaine Dye would make a lotta sense on a 1 year deal... he's still a very productive hitter even at his advanced age & is a good short term solution for RF next season, w/Swisher & Melky playing the other 2 OF spots... i think Jason Bay is gonna command at least a 5 year contract after the season he's having & i doubt the Yankees will wanna go that long for him, especially w/Jeter's longterm future at SS & Austin Jackson looming in the near future.

Romine is probably a better prospect than Cervelli. Montero has a huge bat and I doubt we'll trade him- we're talking an all star bat.
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6/5/2009  1:13 AM
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Jackson would be up right now if we really needed outfield help. As it is pencil him in to start next year. Montero's bat is way ahead of his glove. Still not sure what his position is gonna be, but its probably not catcher.

he projects as a 1B/DH type player if u ask me... he'll probably end up being trade bait eventually... i think Cervelli has a better shot of succeeding Jorge than Montero does.

& i wouldn't bank on Jax starting for us next season... this is just his 1st season at the AAA level & he's only 22... i think he'll get a late season call up this season & then depending on how he does in ST next year they'll decide if he's ready to be thrown into the fire or not... i still think the Yanks will look to sign a short term solution in the OF if Damon, Matsui & Nady are allowed to sign w/other teams, or if the latter 2 are allowed to walk & Damon is signed to be a fulltime DH... someone like Jermaine Dye would make a lotta sense on a 1 year deal... he's still a very productive hitter even at his advanced age & is a good short term solution for RF next season, w/Swisher & Melky playing the other 2 OF spots... i think Jason Bay is gonna command at least a 5 year contract after the season he's having & i doubt the Yankees will wanna go that long for him, especially w/Jeter's longterm future at SS & Austin Jackson looming in the near future.

Romine is probably a better prospect than Cervelli. Montero has a huge bat and I doubt we'll trade him- we're talking an all star bat.

well there's always the DH spot to slot him in, but that spots gonna be going to Jorge eventually u have to figure, within a couple years... obviously he ain't getting any playing time at 1B for the foreseeable future... maybe he could be converted to a corner OF position & take over for Swish? i don't see him as our future C to be honest.
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6/5/2009  7:09 AM
Swisher is our future corner outfielder until he proves otherwise. The guy is 28 with about a .400 on base and .500 slugging percentage. Or if you like more traditional stats, he's on pace for about 30 HR, 100 RBI, 100 runs, 40 doubles.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 06-05-2009 07:11 AM]
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6/5/2009  8:39 AM
Posted by TMS:
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We won the game, what else can you say, that's the way this team's built. When everyone is healthy, we can put up enough runs to pick up a pitcher coming off the DL. Wang is going to need more starts to get in his groove and he can count on this team to get the win even if he struggles. That's called chemistry and it's a good thing. This team is playing with alot of confidence and I like it. You can dog Wang all you want, but he's a starter and he's going to start as long as he's healthy.

Wang has to remain in the rotation, he's a starter, period... u don't keep unproven prospects in the rotation over proven 19 game winners... Hughes will get more chances to prove himself eventually, he's still young & it's not like he was pitching lights out as a starter anyways this year.

it's scary how good this team can be once Wang gets his groove back & ARod starts hitting the way we know he can hit... then when we get Bruney back, forget it, game over.

you have to leave wang as a starter. you cant just put him in and yank him out at the first sign of trouble. he needs time to re-adjust to being back. just like w tex, give him some time and by mid season he'll be throwing just fine.
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6/5/2009  9:50 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by TMS:
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Jackson would be up right now if we really needed outfield help. As it is pencil him in to start next year. Montero's bat is way ahead of his glove. Still not sure what his position is gonna be, but its probably not catcher.

he projects as a 1B/DH type player if u ask me... he'll probably end up being trade bait eventually... i think Cervelli has a better shot of succeeding Jorge than Montero does.

& i wouldn't bank on Jax starting for us next season... this is just his 1st season at the AAA level & he's only 22... i think he'll get a late season call up this season & then depending on how he does in ST next year they'll decide if he's ready to be thrown into the fire or not... i still think the Yanks will look to sign a short term solution in the OF if Damon, Matsui & Nady are allowed to sign w/other teams, or if the latter 2 are allowed to walk & Damon is signed to be a fulltime DH... someone like Jermaine Dye would make a lotta sense on a 1 year deal... he's still a very productive hitter even at his advanced age & is a good short term solution for RF next season, w/Swisher & Melky playing the other 2 OF spots... i think Jason Bay is gonna command at least a 5 year contract after the season he's having & i doubt the Yankees will wanna go that long for him, especially w/Jeter's longterm future at SS & Austin Jackson looming in the near future.

Romine is probably a better prospect than Cervelli. Montero has a huge bat and I doubt we'll trade him- we're talking an all star bat.

well there's always the DH spot to slot him in, but that spots gonna be going to Jorge eventually u have to figure, within a couple years... obviously he ain't getting any playing time at 1B for the foreseeable future... maybe he could be converted to a corner OF position & take over for Swish? i don't see him as our future C to be honest.

They are talking about moving him to right field evenutally, but remember this kid is only 19 and he's mashed at every level and already made it to AA. He's an absolute stud. Probably our most exciting pure hitting prospect since Nick Johnson.
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6/5/2009  11:27 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by TMS:
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Jackson would be up right now if we really needed outfield help. As it is pencil him in to start next year. Montero's bat is way ahead of his glove. Still not sure what his position is gonna be, but its probably not catcher.

he projects as a 1B/DH type player if u ask me... he'll probably end up being trade bait eventually... i think Cervelli has a better shot of succeeding Jorge than Montero does.

& i wouldn't bank on Jax starting for us next season... this is just his 1st season at the AAA level & he's only 22... i think he'll get a late season call up this season & then depending on how he does in ST next year they'll decide if he's ready to be thrown into the fire or not... i still think the Yanks will look to sign a short term solution in the OF if Damon, Matsui & Nady are allowed to sign w/other teams, or if the latter 2 are allowed to walk & Damon is signed to be a fulltime DH... someone like Jermaine Dye would make a lotta sense on a 1 year deal... he's still a very productive hitter even at his advanced age & is a good short term solution for RF next season, w/Swisher & Melky playing the other 2 OF spots... i think Jason Bay is gonna command at least a 5 year contract after the season he's having & i doubt the Yankees will wanna go that long for him, especially w/Jeter's longterm future at SS & Austin Jackson looming in the near future.

Romine is probably a better prospect than Cervelli. Montero has a huge bat and I doubt we'll trade him- we're talking an all star bat.

well there's always the DH spot to slot him in, but that spots gonna be going to Jorge eventually u have to figure, within a couple years... obviously he ain't getting any playing time at 1B for the foreseeable future... maybe he could be converted to a corner OF position & take over for Swish? i don't see him as our future C to be honest.

They are talking about moving him to right field evenutally, but remember this kid is only 19 and he's mashed at every level and already made it to AA. He's an absolute stud. Probably our most exciting pure hitting prospect since Nick Johnson.
You had me really excited until you mentioned Nick Johnson! I guess he is a very good hitter on those rare instances when he's healthy, though.
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6/5/2009  11:32 AM
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Wang looks like a shell of his former self. I honestly think he may be too fragile to come out of this and be as good as he once was...

he looked great the first 3 innings then ran into trouble w/that wild pitch & then got unnerved from there... i think he still needs to build up his arm strength, but the movement on his pitches early in this game looked as good as it did in his recent relief stints.

If his arm strength is good enough for only 3 innings, then he needs to go back to the minors to increase his strength. Hughes can pitch in the meantime.
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6/5/2009  2:43 PM
Nick J has a career on base percentage of .400 and looks to be close to a .900 OPS guy when healthy.
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6/5/2009  4:05 PM
No doubt--he is very good when healthy. He's the Marcus Camby of the MLB
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6/5/2009  5:53 PM
The game was postponed already? Bummer! I'll have to find something actually productive to do tonight!
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6/5/2009  8:16 PM
alex rios is a douche...
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6/6/2009  8:42 AM
Do we know when they're making up the rained out game?
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6/6/2009  1:55 PM
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alex rios is a douche...


video was removed... what he do?
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6/6/2009  1:57 PM
Posted by VDesai:
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Jackson would be up right now if we really needed outfield help. As it is pencil him in to start next year. Montero's bat is way ahead of his glove. Still not sure what his position is gonna be, but its probably not catcher.

he projects as a 1B/DH type player if u ask me... he'll probably end up being trade bait eventually... i think Cervelli has a better shot of succeeding Jorge than Montero does.

& i wouldn't bank on Jax starting for us next season... this is just his 1st season at the AAA level & he's only 22... i think he'll get a late season call up this season & then depending on how he does in ST next year they'll decide if he's ready to be thrown into the fire or not... i still think the Yanks will look to sign a short term solution in the OF if Damon, Matsui & Nady are allowed to sign w/other teams, or if the latter 2 are allowed to walk & Damon is signed to be a fulltime DH... someone like Jermaine Dye would make a lotta sense on a 1 year deal... he's still a very productive hitter even at his advanced age & is a good short term solution for RF next season, w/Swisher & Melky playing the other 2 OF spots... i think Jason Bay is gonna command at least a 5 year contract after the season he's having & i doubt the Yankees will wanna go that long for him, especially w/Jeter's longterm future at SS & Austin Jackson looming in the near future.

Romine is probably a better prospect than Cervelli. Montero has a huge bat and I doubt we'll trade him- we're talking an all star bat.

well there's always the DH spot to slot him in, but that spots gonna be going to Jorge eventually u have to figure, within a couple years... obviously he ain't getting any playing time at 1B for the foreseeable future... maybe he could be converted to a corner OF position & take over for Swish? i don't see him as our future C to be honest.

They are talking about moving him to right field evenutally, but remember this kid is only 19 and he's mashed at every level and already made it to AA. He's an absolute stud. Probably our most exciting pure hitting prospect since Nick Johnson.

yeah, he's still young... i'm talking about him replacing Swish after his contract is up... he's not gonna be no 1B on this team, which is probably his best suited position, & u rarely see kids brought up at such a young age to be a fulltime DH.
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6/6/2009  2:25 PM
I'm bummed that MLB Extra Innings isn't covering this game. I wanted to see CC pitch!
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6/6/2009  4:33 PM
Tex is absolutely outstanding. Come on Arod, tie it up!
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