gradyandrew wrote:I was OK until I checked his stats on basketball reference. Sure, small sample size, garbage time minutes yadda yadda yadda, but it seems like everyone else on the team from McCullar to Jemison at least had a quarter where they really seemed to shine.

Brown wasn't shy about reaching deep down in his bench, but for whatever reason, even down 2 forwards to injury Dadiet never got a chance to play meaningful minutes. This isn't Thibs not playing Obi or IQ enough. I can't see any reason in not playing one of the very few deep bench guys with another guaranteed year other than him not contributing to winning basketball.

TLDR: he sucks.

This is absolutely the wrong take. Deuce is a prime example of it.

The Knicks are developing players and their own starters this past year. When that happens for someone like Dadiet, development is prioritized above the playing time when you have other players on the team that can fill that role and also perhaps the player is not ready and the Knicks just know it.

It still could be that Dadiet does not pan out but to assume he sucks and also consider he could have been moved a long time ago, that seems like a crossroads that does not make sense.

The Knicks FO seems to have indicated to the beat writers right here something that you bypass. I don't know if you can't see this clip or not:

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https://www.twitter.com/KnicksFanTv/status/2070241164385542181

We will go over the apron, but only for a year or two.

A intriguing option if Mitch walks would be Robert Williams

martin wrote:Teams get penalized for the 3rd year they in the second apron?

Maybe the Knicks KNOW they will be in the second apron when Jalen finally gets his extension (2 years from now while Knicks current starters will still be in their prime). Maybe that plan that far out and are fearing THAT and want to do everything they can now to keep the boys together?

its tough because our best chance to repeat is probably next season. not 2-3 seasons from now when the guys are aging and perhaps stale, while guys like Wemby could be unstoppable by then.

Or perhaps the Lakers are frothing at the mouth? Mitch and Deuce for the rights to Carr?

Lots of possibilities out there.

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:Teams get penalized for the 3rd year they in the second apron?

Maybe the Knicks KNOW they will be in the second apron when Jalen finally gets his extension (2 years from now while Knicks current starters will still be in their prime). Maybe that plan that far out and are fearing THAT and want to do everything they can now to keep the boys together?

its tough because our best chance to repeat is probably next season. not 2-3 seasons from now when the guys are aging and perhaps stale, while guys like Wemby could be unstoppable by then.

Everyone but Mitch - give or take - will be back. Mitch had his moments. So the chance to repeat IMO is still there.

Was Mitch a key player during the regular season? Was Mitch a key player during playoffs? I can't say yes to either. He had key plays. Huk had a key play.

Is Mitch irreplaceable to you? Knicks LITERALLY had to get him OFF the court at key moments of playoff games. That's a wild sentence and I wonder how that effects the team as a whole, especially considering how slow and out of shape Mitch suddenly looked at the later half of the playoffs? Maybe the Knicks know something we do not? Like what the heck with the broken hand? If he slipped and fell why not just say that, right?

Right now, we know that the Knicks cannot fully count on Mitch to be healthy throughout a season without time off.

martin wrote:Teams get penalized for the 3rd year they in the second apron?

Maybe the Knicks KNOW they will be in the second apron when Jalen finally gets his extension (2 years from now while Knicks current starters will still be in their prime). Maybe that plan that far out and are fearing THAT and want to do everything they can now to keep the boys together?

Kinda sorta makes sense?

Knicks fans are wondering why the Knicks are so resistant to go over the second apron considering they just won a chip and therefore dont necessarily need their MLE or the ability to aggregate salaries in trades etc bc the team is essentially a finished product

My guess is that its because Jalen Brunson will be extension eligible in 2 years where he is going to be eligible for 5/400mm (80mm per year)

My guess is that they are planning to go over the second apron for the 2 years after he signs his extension (cant do 3 out of any consecutive 5 years or your pick 7 years out which could be lottery drops to 30)

If they were to go over the second apron this year, with JBs extension looming, it would jeopardize their draft pick in 2033 (7 years out) which is the only major trade asset they have left

Staying under second apron while JB is on his discount, and waiting until he gets the bag to go above the second apron extends the championship window of this team to around 2030 (2 years in second apron after extension and keeps our pick out of jeopardy)

Makes sense to me

Stay under while have him on discount

Go over when he gets paid

Save the pick/asset, extend the window

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nycericanguy wrote:

Chandler wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:that being said if we lose Mitch, give me KP. And I think MO would play some smallball 5.

Or feeling this at all. We need defensive presence and rebounding. We have shooting

Maybe we do backup by committee w Huk and jemmison. Or not sure how it would happen TimeLord at least was legit. Saw a lot of him w Celts.

Kp is a defensive presense. .

Like a scarecrow

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:I was OK until I checked his stats on basketball reference. Sure, small sample size, garbage time minutes yadda yadda yadda, but it seems like everyone else on the team from McCullar to Jemison at least had a quarter where they really seemed to shine.

Brown wasn't shy about reaching deep down in his bench, but for whatever reason, even down 2 forwards to injury Dadiet never got a chance to play meaningful minutes. This isn't Thibs not playing Obi or IQ enough. I can't see any reason in not playing one of the very few deep bench guys with another guaranteed year other than him not contributing to winning basketball.

TLDR: he sucks.

This is absolutely the wrong take. Deuce is a prime example of it.

The Knicks are developing players and their own starters this past year. When that happens for someone like Dadiet, development is prioritized above the playing time when you have other players on the team that can fill that role and also perhaps the player is not ready and the Knicks just know it.

It still could be that Dadiet does not pan out but to assume he sucks and also consider he could have been moved a long time ago, that seems like a crossroads that does not make sense.

The Knicks FO seems to have indicated to the beat writers right here something that you bypass. I don't know if you can't see this clip or not:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/KnicksFanTv/status/2070241164385542181

I agree. If the Knicks actually felt he had no upside, he would not have been with the club a second season. He'd have been moved or given a ticket back to France.

We've only seen him in garbage time and he shows he has the tools to score and maybe defend as well. He's done it in G League naturally.

Dadiet has a very light feel to his presence on the floor. I don't know if it is because he's going to be a silky smooth player or if he is perhaps not completely assertive yet, but it feels like he is gliding around the court. Can't put my finger on it yet or characterize it as a positive or negative vibe yet.

Mostly, I don't think we've seen him play extended minutes in a regular game outside garbage time to have a strong sense of his current or future levels, but he clearly can shoot and move well enough.