NYKMentality wrote:I've learned how certain types of Knicks fans will kill their Head Coach over anything (and lie about it too).

🚨"Thibs plays his players too many minutes"🚨

New York :
Randle 35.9
Brunson 35.2

Vs

Boston:
Tatum 37.3
Brown 35.6

Milwaukee:
Giannis 33.1
Jrue 33.0

Philadelphia:
Harden 36.4
Embiid 34.9

Cleveland:
Mitchell 35.5
Mobley 34.2

Atlanta:
Murray 36.5
Young 35.4

Minnesota:
Edwards 36.2
Towns 33.8

Golden State:
Curry 34.6
Klay 32.8

Clippers:
George 34.2
Kawhi 32.4

Lakers:
LeBron 36.3
Davis 33.4

Etc. Etc.

So the next time someone tries to falsely accuse this man (Coach Thibs) of playing his best players "too many minutes"?

Look them dead in the eyes and let them know he's just as "guilty" as just about everyone else (especially the NBA's two All-Time GOATS in Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich).

SMH 🤦‍♂️

Your really stretching this out because your bored. I get it. Im also itching to see some basketball. Gotta wait until Friday unfortunately.

But please Name one poster who said thibs plays randle and jalen too many minutes in the 2022/2023 season.

If your going to bring up an old discussion (not sure why or what’s your motivation), why not be accurate? This started with the decline of Thumbs down Randle and RJ who was both in the top whatever in mins played. During that time, Randle was trash (according to 75% of knick fans on this forum) and every thread was calling for his head. RJ was inconsistent of course and declining defensively. All the guys you mentioned are stars and superstars. Randle and RJ wasn’t even all stars. So that’s a bad comparison.

And just because Lebron or Tatum type players can perform well with high minutes doesn’t mean anybody can or should. Some players can perform well in clutch (4th quarter for example) with high mind and those guys are superstars. Others only play solid for 3 quarters. Randle for example is a superstar in the 1st quarter with fresh legs. But come 4th quarter, his performance declines.

But hey, let’s forget we have closure Brunson and we are 6th seed going for 5th seed. Let’s forget thibs and the Knicks are playing the best basketball in most peoples lifetime. Let’s forget hart is undefeated and playing out of his mind. Did I mention how Brunson is putting up superstar numbers and he’s not an all star? Or Brunson is one of the top clutch performers in the nba.

So many great things to congratulate thibs on. What’s the motivation of spending worthless negative energy on something that’s been dead for a long time now. When we now have something so alive. 🤦 I guess some really get off on argumentive topics that nobody is arguing about anymore 🤣.

I still say he plays RJ too many mins, but what does that really mean right now? Thibs to this point has proven to be a solid veteran coach who has a team of young players playing hard on both ends for him (including inconsistent RJ). So many positives to talk about. Where’s those discussions? Come on bro, it’s over. Drink some tea and watch these Knicks led by thibs, hawk down the nets for the 5th seed.

Playing your best player major mins is what got us here and that’s what all coaches do, regardless what fans want or expect. Having Brunson and hart pickup the slack in the 4th is great chemistry. Randle gets us going. Hart maintains that momentum off the bench and Brunson is the closer. Brunson fills that need in crunch time, Randle gets us going in the 1st quarter. It’s beautiful to watch and we are blessed to witness this.

The present is just as beautiful as the future. Much more better than thumbs down Randle led team last year. That Randle doesn’t exist anymore. Last year thibs is not this years thibs. Last years FO is not this years FO. Last years fans are not this years fans. It’s a different team and a different vibe with Brunson the closer on board. Even disagreements between fans are different.

Shout outs to thibs and the FO. Can’t wait to see what the future holds over the next 22 games.

Since we digging up a 3 yr old discussion...

Do we need another minutes thread? It’s something that carried over from his coaching time with the timberwolves. Are we that board? And do we need multiple threads on the same topic? Thibs played certain guys lots of mins because he like to have a 8 or 9 man rotation. This whole thing about just because Dame and Luka play heavy mins, RJ should as well? It was a bad argument then now and in the future. Thibs will be thibs. And clearly his tight rotation changed the course for this team. So forget what other teams are doing, thibs is doing it his way and the players are responding in a positive way. So what’s the point of bringing this up from the dead again? 🤦‍♂️

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:I've learned how certain types of Knicks fans will kill their Head Coach over anything (and lie about it too).

🚨"Thibs plays his players too many minutes"🚨

New York :
Randle 35.9
Brunson 35.2

Vs

Boston:
Tatum 37.3
Brown 35.6

Milwaukee:
Giannis 33.1
Jrue 33.0

Philadelphia:
Harden 36.4
Embiid 34.9

Cleveland:
Mitchell 35.5
Mobley 34.2

Atlanta:
Murray 36.5
Young 35.4

Minnesota:
Edwards 36.2
Towns 33.8

Golden State:
Curry 34.6
Klay 32.8

Clippers:
George 34.2
Kawhi 32.4

Lakers:
LeBron 36.3
Davis 33.4

Etc. Etc.

So the next time someone tries to falsely accuse this man (Coach Thibs) of playing his best players "too many minutes"?

Look them dead in the eyes and let them know he's just as "guilty" as just about everyone else (especially the NBA's two All-Time GOATS in Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich).

SMH 🤦‍♂️

Your really stretching this out because your bored. I get it. Im also itching to see some basketball. Gotta wait until Friday unfortunately.

But please Name one poster who said thibs plays randle and jalen too many minutes in the 2022/2023 season.

If your going to bring up an old discussion (not sure why or what’s your motivation), why not be accurate? This started with the decline of Thumbs down Randle and RJ who was both in the top whatever in mins played. During that time, Randle was trash (according to 75% of knick fans on this forum) and every thread was calling for his head. RJ was inconsistent of course and declining defensively. All the guys you mentioned are stars and superstars. Randle and RJ wasn’t even all stars. So that’s a bad comparison.

And just because Lebron or Tatum type players can perform well with high minutes doesn’t mean anybody can or should. Some players can perform well in clutch (4th quarter for example) with high mind and those guys are superstars. Others only play solid for 3 quarters. Randle for example is a superstar in the 1st quarter with fresh legs. But come 4th quarter, his performance declines.

But hey, let’s forget we have closure Brunson and we are 6th seed going for 5th seed. Let’s forget thibs and the Knicks are playing the best basketball in most peoples lifetime. Let’s forget hart is undefeated and playing out of his mind. Did I mention how Brunson is putting up superstar numbers and he’s not an all star? Or Brunson is one of the top clutch performers in the nba.

So many great things to congratulate thibs on. What’s the motivation of spending worthless negative energy on something that’s been dead for a long time now. When we now have something so alive. 🤦 I guess some really get off on argumentive topics that nobody is arguing about anymore 🤣.

I still say he plays RJ too many mins, but what does that really mean right now? Thibs to this point has proven to be a solid veteran coach who has a team of young players playing hard on both ends for him (including inconsistent RJ). So many positives to talk about. Where’s those discussions? Come on bro, it’s over. Drink some tea and watch these Knicks led by thibs, hawk down the nets for the 5th seed.

Playing your best player major mins is what got us here and that’s what all coaches do, regardless what fans want or expect. Having Brunson and hart pickup the slack in the 4th is great chemistry. Randle gets us going. Hart maintains that momentum off the bench and Brunson is the closer. Brunson fills that need in crunch time, Randle gets us going in the 1st quarter. It’s beautiful to watch and we are blessed to witness this.

The present is just as beautiful as the future. Much more better than thumbs down Randle led team last year. That Randle doesn’t exist anymore. Last year thibs is not this years thibs. Last years FO is not this years FO. Last years fans are not this years fans. It’s a different team and a different vibe with Brunson the closer on board. Even disagreements between fans are different.

Shout outs to thibs and the FO. Can’t wait to see what the future holds over the next 22 games.

It's called calling out guys who were wrong and just want to sweep there past comments under the rug without manning up and admitting they were wrong.
Some hate being reminded of that.

There are several on here that do that. And use plenty of "negative energy" while doing so.
Agree that we have a lot of positives but a fan board is where we talk about anything. Most of it being fans negative takes and wrong opinions. Problem is that some posters talk out of their you know what's, are too defensive and sensitive and don't man up when they are wrong and get called out.

Believe Thibs giving too many minutes is a good convo. As is any one discussing the opinion of your teams coach. Feel it's fair but the only ones wanting a coach removed because of minutes are HS mom's angry their kid is not getting run, former players who rode the bench and fans who think their hopefuls are better than they really are. Does give too many minutes at times? Sometimes but as many have pointed out, calling for his firing because of it is ridiculous. Especially as the reason for losing. Imo, it's rarely about the coach and more about the players when a team does well or not. With the only exception being when a coach loses his team. Thibs is the coach I wanted and he is doing a great job and has brought a great culture and hard nose mentality to the team. Reason why I wanted him.

HofstraBBall wrote:
It's called calling out guys who were wrong and just want to sweep there past comments under the rug without manning up and admitting they were wrong.
Some hate being reminded of that.

There are several on here that do that. And use plenty of "negative energy" while doing so.
Agree that we have a lot of positives but a fan board is where we talk about anything. Most of it being fans negative takes and wrong opinions. Problem is that some posters talk out of their you know what's, are too defensive and sensitive and don't man up when they are wrong and get called out.

Believe Thibs giving too many minutes is a good convo. As is any one discussing the opinion of your teams coach. Feel it's fair but the only ones wanting a coach removed because of minutes are HS mom's angry their kid is not getting run, former players who rode the bench and fans who think their hopefuls are better than they really are. Does give too many minutes at times? Sometimes but as many have pointed out, calling for his firing because of it is ridiculous. Especially as the reason for losing. Imo, it's rarely about the coach and more about the players when a team does well or not. With the only exception being when a coach loses his team. Thibs is the coach I wanted and he is doing a great job and has brought a great culture and hard nose mentality to the team. Reason why I wanted him.

I'll just add that being right when everyone else is.wrong is it's own sweet reward.

blkexec wrote:Flowers 🌺

Excellent job Thibs.

Fire who? Please this guy has a team built around his defensive culture, eventhough we are ranked very high on offense.

11 days ago in this very thread you were saying "Thibs is a veteran coach making rookie mistakes". I guess you mist feel he's been able to learn and go from neophite loser to expert builder of a defensive culture in less than two weeks!

joec32033 wrote:

blkexec wrote:Thank you joe for reviving this minutes thread. I’m going to copy and paste my first response to this minutes thread which sums up my point.

Since we digging up a 3 yr old discussion...

Do we need another minutes thread? It’s something that carried over from his coaching time with the timberwolves. Are we that board? And do we need multiple threads on the same topic? Thibs played certain guys lots of mins because he like to have a 8 or 9 man rotation. This whole thing about just because Dame and Luka play heavy mins, RJ should as well? It was a bad argument then now and in the future. Thibs will be thibs. And clearly his tight rotation changed the course for this team. So forget what other teams are doing, thibs is doing it his way and the players are responding in a positive way. So what’s the point of bringing this up from the dead again? 🤦‍♂️

Hold on now....not only did I NOT make the post that bumped this thread. Nor did I directly respond to the post that bumped this thread (that was you). NOR did I even make this thread about minutes, even though you and I went back and forth on this for a while, and in all honesty this is a topic that- self-admittedly- triggers me. I directly responded to your line saying to name one poster who made it an issue. I named multiple. Don't look at me on this one. If you don't want people to respond don't make open challenges.

I don’t care if posters respond to me. It’s an open forum. All I’m saying it’s a stupid discussion right now. Too many positives. Too much winning. To try and dig up past discussions when nobody has talked about that since January (which you pointed out in your response).

But just like a street fight. If you don’t want the smoke stay out the kitchen 😆. Otherwise u and me are putting ourselves out there for anybody to respond. And I can’t get mad at that. And I don’t think you can either. Nothing personal just knick fans killing time until the 2nd half starts.

blkexec wrote:SMH 🤷‍♂️

Your really stretching this out because your bored. I get it. Im also itching to see some basketball. Gotta wait until Friday unfortunately.

But please Name one poster who said thibs plays randle and jalen too many minutes in the 2022/2023 season.

If your going to bring up an old discussion (not sure why or what;s your motivation), why not be accurate?

So many great things to congratulate thibs on.

What's the motivation of spending worthless negative energy on something thats been dead for a long time now

Let's be real.

You're only shaking your head because I come into this thread with positive energy in support of (with appreciation) for Coach Thibs.

Because you for dang sure weren't "shaking your head" @ all of the negative "Fire Thibs" energy (once this thread was created) 🤷‍♂️

23 pages of examples. Can you find me multiple quotes of yourself while supporting Thibs throughout this thread and/or of you going after the Coach killers while calling them out for their negative Fire Thibs energy?

Or do you only do this (immediately) after a known Thibs believer kicks down the doors that were opened up only 1 month ago?

I came into this thread to show off how Thibs is playing/utilizing his dynamic duo @ PG/PF in comparison to how other coaches are playing their two best players (big minutes) sorry, didn't know it would bother you that much...

But I don’t mind discussing the minutes thing again. I don’t think every player can handle heavy minutes. And the players you are using as an example are stars and superstars. And to me Randle and RJ are not stars or superstars. Brunson is definitely heading in that direction and the minutes he’s getting doesn’t impact his clutch performance in the 4th quarter like it does for Randle. RJ is RJ. He’s inconsistent regardless of his minutes right now. Brunson is super solid.

But that’s my take on your post.

HofstraBBall wrote:

blkexec wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

blkexec wrote:Thank you joe for reviving this minutes thread. I’m going to copy and paste my first response to this minutes thread which sums up my point.

Since we digging up a 3 yr old discussion...

Do we need another minutes thread? It’s something that carried over from his coaching time with the timberwolves. Are we that board? And do we need multiple threads on the same topic? Thibs played certain guys lots of mins because he like to have a 8 or 9 man rotation. This whole thing about just because Dame and Luka play heavy mins, RJ should as well? It was a bad argument then now and in the future. Thibs will be thibs. And clearly his tight rotation changed the course for this team. So forget what other teams are doing, thibs is doing it his way and the players are responding in a positive way. So what’s the point of bringing this up from the dead again? 🤦‍♂️

Hold on now....not only did I NOT make the post that bumped this thread. Nor did I directly respond to the post that bumped this thread (that was you). NOR did I even make this thread about minutes, even though you and I went back and forth on this for a while, and in all honesty this is a topic that- self-admittedly- triggers me. I directly responded to your line saying to name one poster who made it an issue. I named multiple. Don't look at me on this one. If you don't want people to respond don't make open challenges.

I don’t care if posters respond to me. It’s an open forum. All I’m saying it’s a stupid discussion right now. Too many positives. Too much winning. To try and dig up past discussions when nobody has talked about that since January (which you pointed out in your response).

But just like a street fight. If you don’t want the smoke stay out the kitchen 😆. Otherwise u and me are putting ourselves out there for anybody to respond. And I can’t get mad at that. And I don’t think you can either. Nothing personal just knick fans killing time until the 2nd half starts.

Have you both admitted that saying Thibs over uses Knick starters was overblown?

Hofstra police is back at it again!

Let it go brother

This horse been dead

I said what I said and refuse to repeat because the Hofstra police is here. Give me my ticket and move on officer.