ramtour420 wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Listen, KP was annoying with bis attitude and his brother is a jackass but don't act like the Knicks are not deserving of this.

You mean the Ewing curse? Or maybe we shouldn't have tanked this year? Or maybe drafted betterer? More good? We got 3 players that all perform like lottery talent. What do you mean exactly? we are on;y deserving of "THIS" for drafting the fool and his brother

We should have passed on Timmy and tanked for Doncic last year. Then KP would have had no reason to bolt to Dallas to play with Doncic. And we'd be a much more attractive FA destination this summer. Not to detract from KP being a diva, but our organization also bears a huge chunk of the blame.

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:KP tweeted this.

Nothing to us, the fans...WOW.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/kporzee/status/1091146309120286724

KP got a lot of growing up to do. This and the response to coach saying he isn’t running yet very telling

Think he got a big head a couple of seasons ago. It's a shame as I loved his attitude when we drafted him, but everyone could see the change towards diva-dom. He is young and we provided a bad environment, and his brother is an awful adviser, so it's understandable. Think he'll benefit from being in Dallas away from the some of the spotlight and distractions

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

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https://twitter.com/stevepopper/status/1091143394364145664

I feel better about it if they'd done their due diligence for a while and this was the best available- when it broke it seemed like a sudden panic move.

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/stevepopper/status/1091143394364145664

I feel better about it if they'd done their due diligence for a while and this was the best available- when it broke it seemed like a sudden panic move.

There were some rumors pretty early on. I remember reading a Bondy article where he was saying KP wasn’t happy and might leave. I dismissed it because it was Bondy but then Begleybtweeted that he had heard the same thing and that there was something to it. My hope at the time was that it was Begley sticking up for a peer. This front office was very thorough in its coaching search. I hope that was the case here as well. I do think they did pretty. Well. Teams don’t trade two first round picks anymore. The huge salary dump and getting DSjr could turn out to be a really good haul.

To be honest I don't have a problem with trading KP (I supported it when Phil was trying to do it), I'm just not sure this was the best deal- if we fall to fifth in the draft, we don't really have anything to entice FA's- and landing two of them is a long shot.

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/stevepopper/status/1091143394364145664

I feel better about it if they'd done their due diligence for a while and this was the best available- when it broke it seemed like a sudden panic move.

There were some rumors pretty early on. I remember reading a Bondy article where he was saying KP wasn’t happy and might leave. I dismissed it because it was Bondy but then Begleybtweeted that he had heard the same thing and that there was something to it. My hope at the time was that it was Begley sticking up for a peer. This front office was very thorough in its coaching search. I hope that was the case here as well. I do think they did pretty. Well. Teams don’t trade two first round picks anymore. The huge salary dump and getting DSjr could turn out to be a really good haul.

To be honest I don't have a problem with trading KP (I supported it when Phil was trying to do it), I'm just not sure this was the best deal- if we fall to fifth in the draft, we don't really have anything to entice FA's- and landing two of them is a long shot.

It will be interesting to see if Jordan and Matthews are bought out. If they play the Knicks are a better team this year.

JamesKPolk wrote:

Welpee wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:

martin wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:If you support this trade then you are simply falling for the same old **** the Knicks have been feeding for you a decade or more.

The Knicks are using their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts that they signed the last time they had cap space. They are simply hoping there's a 'chance' that an elite player or two wants to come to New York and play with Kevin Knox and Frank Ntilikina. Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

It's as if 2010 and 2016 didn't happen and end terribly. The Knicks simply do not know how to learn from past mistakes.

I understand that KP thought this management sucks and the ownership is awful, that's understandable. I didn't like the way he went about it but so be it. I didn't like his brother either. He was a cancer. So he had to be traded. Okay. Why did he have to be traded in a salary dump? Why not a top 10 pick from a team in this draft or legit young players from Boston, etc? Why are you swinging for the fences once again when your franchise has the worst record in the NBA not just this year but the worst record since 2001? Who in their right minds is running to play for Dolan and Mills? The idea that the Knicks have a plan is a joke. Their plan is no plan. It's just throwing crap at a wall and hoping it sticks. This is a latest example of that.

For the record, Dennis Smith Jr isn't good. He's a poor man's Steve Francis. He can't shoot and has low basketball IQ.

The 2021 pick will likely be in the 20's. It's nothing to be excited about.

The return here was bad because it's a short-sighted move. If the Knicks end up maxing out Kemba and Cousins this summer, then what? Was this what you wanted? To be a treadmill 6-7 seed for the next decade?

The Knicks keep making the same move over and over and keep failing. And they keep selling the same plan and people keep buying it. Look at the roster - it's devoid of talent. Who is worth anything on this team? Knox is 19 but he's shown next to nothing. Mitch has a long way to go. Trier is a 6th man at best. Frank? Dotson? C'mon. The roster is probably the worst in the entire NBA in terms of any talent now that Porzingis is gone.

Don't keep falling for these terrible short sighted moves. This is one of the worst trades in franchise history. The Knicks continue to be a disgrace.

Your logic is hot garbage.

Elite players coming to play with Frank and Knox.... [rolls eyes].

The 2 elite players would come to team up with a high lottery pick, Knox, Frank, Trier, Mitch and whatever min contracts other vet dudes would sign to play with Durant and Kyrie.

Fucking Greek Freak and 4 other role players are leading the East right now; I am sure Kyrie and Durant could walk to the East finals in a cake walk.

No my logic is the truth. You're falling for the old bait and switch again.

High lottery pick - why would a superstar car about a lottery pick? They want to win now, not wait for a player to develop. Durant will be 31.

Mitch has done nothing in the league except block shots and foul out every game. He's not ready to win now.

Knox is not ready to win now or even play regular NBA minutes.

Frank is a defensive backup.

Say you're Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. You look at this team. You objectively think the Knicks are in a superb position to win a title by teaming up those 2 with a bunch of unproven rookies and/or some guys who not even be NBA worthy?

The Knicks are swinging for a pipe dream. They traded their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts they signed the last time they had cap space (ya'll forgot about Amare, Noah, Hardaway, Lee, etc, huh?) to have a chance - a CHANCE - to sign some superstars who somehow will be so enamored by the GAHDEN and DA MECCA that they will throw out all conventional wisdom and come play for statistically the worst franchise in the NBA since 2001.

How many superstars did the Lakers have when they signed Lebron?

1. The Lakers have a much better roster than the Knicks.

2. It has been widely observed that LeBron signing with LA was a business and family decision first and foremost.