Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by misterearl:
Who Wrote The Book Of Love?
bippity - who said the Knicks blueprint was the Phoenix Suns?
...and who said the Knicks were restricted to only halfcourt sets?
[Edited by - misterearl on 08-07-2007 10:53 AM]
Isiah did just last summer.
Figuring out the team identity is still part of the problem for these Knicks. I like the upgrade of Z-Bo but I still can't see how he fits with Curry.
I could be wrong but I never recalled Isiah saying the Knicks style of play was going to be like that of the Phoenix Suns...What I do recall him saying is the offense will be a combination of three styles...High post offense, Tex Winter's triangle and some aspect of the Princeton offense...Think Bobby Knight's name was thrown in there as well...I think when someone says we will play uptempo, immediately people assume it will be like the Suns because of their success...
Holfresh, a number of fans talked about it, and Isiah mentioned it as well when being interviewed by Gus Johnson on TV at a Summer league game. It was ridiculous that fans actually believed it could happen.
Holfresh, I'll put it this way. Isiah was trying to add in a severe motion offense, which means lots and lots of player movement off the ball, which also means fast breaks galore, which means Phoenix style offense. There was no way it could happen with Marbury, Crawford, Nate, Francis and Jalen Rose as our guards. The only 2 of those players who seem capable of playing within' that type of offense is Crawford, because he moves without the ball a lot, and Nate, just because of potential.
There was no way you could teach Marbury and Francis a new style of play, when he's been doing a completely different style his entire career.
I just posted what Isiah said exactly, on the previous page. The media picked up the whole idea of PHX Suns style and ran with it, but Isiah clearly was never holding out his offense as being exaclty like that. This is pretty much the same playbook he had in Indy.
Steph actually did eventually learn to play within the offense. He always ran the plays, but didn't start out executing very well. Then he got the hang of it and did what he was supposed to do, within his capabilities. He's not Kidd or Nash, so he can only be but so good at running it, but he did get much better.
I have more faith in a guy like Mardy eventually being really good at running this offense. He's a natural pass 1st kind of guy. He doesn't look to be fancy, he just makes the pass as it's prescribed.
As for the motion offense, Isiah hasn't changed his sets at all. They just look different when run by the starters. We actually ran a very weak triangle. It didn't do much since Curry doesn't really pass the ball much. Steph doesn't really make his cut with the idea of receiving the ball and scoring. He just does it to draw his man away. Then you have Q who could get the pass from Curry in order to take the corner 3, but as I said, Curry rarely passes it, so Q makes a baseline cut to draw his defender with him as well. It was then hard to tell that we ran a triangle, cuz there was no variety to the play, it was just Curry keeping the ball almost every time. Later in the year he got a little better. I think Mardy would provide a better target for Curry to feed on cuts or back up top when they reset.
There was supposed to be a more robust 2 man game on the weakside whenever they overplayed the strongside with Curry, but Francis and Frye never really developed any chemistry. No pick and roll or Francis feeding Frye in the post and then clearing thru, so he had room to operate. Francis would get brainlock and overdribble or he'd not even use Frye's pick, effectively breaking off the play. This led to TO's and poor shots.
