dk7th wrote:at this point it seems like chandler has missed as many games as gallinari. i could be wrong. your "building around" statement is questionable. the team is an extension of the coach's approach and will. they found players they wanted that fit the style of the coach. that's smart. gallinari should be better than he is and it's that 3-point shot that is holding him back. to get to the next level he has to achieve 40% from three. then he an all-star. meanwhile his long-range shooting could prove fatal in the playoffs. but then he isn't alone. lawson and iguodala need to tighten up their games too. good news is they are all still young.

and the knicks? they didn't take the denver route of coaching style dictating roster. they acquired talent willy-nilly with no thought to the coach's style of play and no thought to find talent that fits or core players who are even capable of meshing. they behaved like monkeys flinging their poopy at a blank canvas. someone came along and called it "art" and many people take it as such.

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dk7th wrote:at this point it seems like chandler has missed as many games as gallinari. i could be wrong. your "building around" statement is questionable. the team is an extension of the coach's approach and will. they found players they wanted that fit the style of the coach. that's smart. gallinari should be better than he is and it's that 3-point shot that is holding him back. to get to the next level he has to achieve 40% from three. then he an all-star. meanwhile his long-range shooting could prove fatal in the playoffs. but then he isn't alone. lawson and iguodala need to tighten up their games too. good news is they are all still young.

and the knicks? they didn't take the denver route of coaching style dictating roster. they acquired talent willy-nilly with no thought to the coach's style of play and no thought to find talent that fits or core players who are even capable of meshing. they behaved like monkeys flinging their poopy at a blank canvas. someone came along and called it "art" and many people take it as such.

Are you talking about with D'antoni or this roster now? Cause im pretty sure Woodson had a say in the roster moves this off season.

Gotta be under D'antoni, this current team has Woodsons stamp all over it, outside of amare.

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3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

So you're both already trying to cover yourselves if Denver don't do anything in the playoffs?

Denver has done great this season- I just don't get why everything they do and achieve is fantastic, but everything we do and achieve somehow doesn't count. We're looking at 50 wins plus despite significant injuries to Amar'e, Felton and Sheed, injuries to Melo and Tyson and Kurt and Camby. If someone had said before preseason we'd have all those injuries, no one would have predicted we'd win over 50 games.

it's rare in a season that is too long by at least 12 games that you'll find a team that is not going to suffer injuries. it just so happens that the knicks are more injury-prone because they were forced to acquire very old players and cheap contracts.

injuries can't be used as an excuse.

when one team acquires a marquee player by trade and not through free agency they are forced to go into win-now mode at the expense of trading away valuable assets that could be developed were the team forced into win-now mode.

the fact that the knicks are nowhere near winning now translates to disappointment. the fact that denver is a better team already furthers the disappointment.

now if you decide to poo-poo the nuggets' regular-season record then the same should be said of the knicks record too.

so far as covering myself i don't know what you mean. right now the nuggets have exceeded my expectations and the knicks have not.

if the nuggets fail to secure home court then that's on them. the only teams that they may have trouble against are the two teams ahead of them.

meanwhile the knicks are showing they have a pulse. i have to hand it to smith, he's turned it around and looks great out there. but this ain't the playoffs. he is guilty until proven innocent until he shows he can do stuff in the playoffs. meanwhile it's still supposedly melo's team and i still foresee a futile masturbatory exercise on his part. it's hard for a leopard to change his spots especially when teams invite him to indulge in his favorite activity. i wish woodson would get on his case and demand he chuck less and facilitate more.

I am going to go out on a limb make an assumption that the team that you are referring to is the Knicks and the star they acquired through trade was Melo. As has been discussed numerous times the Knicks goal was to acquire a second star. As soon as they struck out they began the pursuit of Melo as did other teams. There was no way Melo would have been a Knick if the Knicks did not trade for him and there was no way that he would have gone into free agency as both Melo and his team were very motivated to make a trade that benefitted both parties. Once the trade was made and the Knicks had two star players in their prime not trying to win now would be pointless. As far as health concerns, you are right that older players break down but the Knicks core, Shump, Felton, Tyson, Melo, JR, Stat and Novak are players that would either be considered young or in their prime. Signing older vets is something that teams that are going to the playoffs and intend to have a good run do.
In regards to Denver they have had a fantastic season and they were smart to build around Lawson. They have buitl a team that suits their running style. However, to imply that the trade is the reason that they are doing so well would sell that roster short. It is nice to see Gallinari looking like the player he was supposed to be when the Knicks drafted him and it is nice that he is healthy. However, being healthy has not been the norm for his career. Chandler when healthy is very good and as a fan he is the player I miss most because of the trade. Moz has done nothing in Denver.

at this point it seems like chandler has missed as many games as gallinari. i could be wrong. your "building around" statement is questionable. the team is an extension of the coach's approach and will. they found players they wanted that fit the style of the coach. that's smart. gallinari should be better than he is and it's that 3-point shot that is holding him back. to get to the next level he has to achieve 40% from three. then he an all-star. meanwhile his long-range shooting could prove fatal in the playoffs. but then he isn't alone. lawson and iguodala need to tighten up their games too. good news is they are all still young.

and the knicks? they didn't take the denver route of coaching style dictating roster. they acquired talent willy-nilly with no thought to the coach's style of play and no thought to find talent that fits or core players who are even capable of meshing. they behaved like monkeys flinging their poopy at a blank canvas. someone came along and called it "art" and many people take it as such.

very well said...

Other games thread.......Place to chat about games on TV not Knicks.

Oh yea?? LOL from what I see it's just another site chat to rache Hate on Melo and the Knicks. Now let me get to the point. Denver is playing very well and I wish them well. But I am not a Denver fan. When Clyde Fraizer got traded to Cleveland I was upset because he was my favorite player, When Starks got traded I was upset and when Ewing got traded I was upset and many of the other former Knicks who got let go I didn't like it but it's part of the game. It didn't make me want to be a fan for another team. If Melo got traded today or tomorrow I would be upset but I would still be a Knicks fan. I won't go hatten. Life is too short. I will always like Melo. Next season we will get more good players to come here and it will be because of Melo. Right now I am having a great time watching the Knicks and Melo Kick butt. Remember Everything goes through Melo Well let me get off this site because It is suposed to be a Place to chat about games on TV NOT THE KNICKS Well that's a lie
Hey! Who's rooting for the Knicks to win Sunday??? I don't think I will see too many hands up in this chat room so remember on thing GO KNICKS GO! And stick to the script if you can do that!

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Other games thread.......Place to chat about games on TV not Knicks.

Oh yea?? LOL from what I see it's just another site chat to rache Hate on Melo and the Knicks. Now let me get to the point. Denver is playing very well and I wish them well. But I am not a Denver fan. When Clyde Fraizer got traded to Cleveland I was upset because he was my favorite player, When Starks got traded I was upset and when Ewing got traded I was upset and many of the other former Knicks who got let go I didn't like it but it's part of the game. It didn't make me want to be a fan for another team. If Melo got traded today or tomorrow I would be upset but I would still be a Knicks fan. I won't go hatten. Life is too short. I will always like Melo. Next season we will get more good players to come here and it will be because of Melo. Right now I am having a great time watching the Knicks and Melo Kick butt. Remember Everything goes through Melo Well let me get off this site because It is suposed to be a Place to chat about games on TV NOT THE KNICKS Well that's a lie
Hey! Who's rooting for the Knicks to win Sunday??? I don't think I will see too many hands up in this chat room so remember on thing GO KNICKS GO! And stick to the script if you can do that!

You just made it about the knicks.

Denver is a surprise team.

We talk about surprise teams every year.

If you don't want to talk about here, don't.

When the knicks hit 50, we'll talk about it. They just got there first. Big woo.

Why anyone takes offense that Denver got there and mentioned without the knicks I don't know.

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CrushAlot wrote:Dallas beat the bulls. That race for eight in the west is going to go down to the wire.

Caught the last 5 min of that game. Dirks performance was great to watch. Chicago choking at the FT line was even better.

I really want to see the Kings/Lakers game tonight. Both Kobe and Nash are playing despite injuries.