NardDogNation wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Brunson and Rick stay. KAT stays. We hire a coach that opens up the Brunson+ KAT combo on offense and finds a way to play d with them on court. That's the plan. No to KD. We have something special over here. Two all NBA players and a nice supporting cast around them + nice options to develop down the pipeline

That's probable. KD is one of the players I dislike most in the league but I'd be intrigued if the deal was only for KAT. The cap flexibility alone after 2027 without KAT is worth it alone.

gradyandrew wrote:What about Knicks trade OG, Robinson, and Kolek for Giannis? McBride or Dadiet instead of Kolek also work. Maybe Dadiet has the most value because he's still under contract for 3 more years. Knicks have the Wizards pick and swaps to throw in. Knicks end up with:

Brunson, Bridges, Hart, KAT, Giannis

The bench would still need some filling out, but I don't think it would be any more or less difficult than the past off seasons.

It’s going to be something like that and Hart might be included as well but my gut says they want to pair Brunson - Mikal - Giannis - KAT and add a sniper SG.

I’m not a huge KAT guy but the most perfect player you can pair with him in the entire league is Giannis. And Mikal just seems like a great fit there too. Damn how nice it would be to get DDV back in that SG spot in that lineup.

OG, Bridges, Giannis, Shamet or Deuce, and Brunson is much tougher due to the improved defense. While Giannis can't shoot from outside it now opens up some inside game that could also help with spacing as Giannis is a one man wrecking crew inside. Giannis inside with those 4 outside. Realize Milw will want more than Giannis but maybe there is a 3 team deal that could allow us to retain OG and Bridges. If not I probably would not make the deal as we need more depth rather then losing already quality players. Maybe Hart is the only one besides KAT that could make sense to part with as Giannis has enough intensity and you can't really play Hart and Giannis much unless somebody decides they would be a shooting threat.

nycericanguy wrote:i agree, KAT's gotta go in a Giannis trade. You don't need 3 superstars anyway.

It would have to probably be KAT + OG for Giannis.

KAT for Freak works straight up. How are you adding an extra 36M to this deal and making it work? OG + Mitch also works. Jalen + Mitch would also work

DLeethal wrote:Every indicator is that the Knicks want to get Giannis and keep KAT.

I actually like Brunson - Deuce - Mikal - Giannis - KAT a lot better than

Brunson - Mikal - OG - Giannis - Mitch

First is a much more skilled lineup with better spacing, pacing, ball handling, shooting.

Still don’t know how it’s going to work with a player with the highest usage rate in the league(Giannis) and JB and his high usage rate, using most of the shot clock. KAT was 24th this season. What about touches for the rest of the rotation?

GustavBahler wrote:

DLeethal wrote:Every indicator is that the Knicks want to get Giannis and keep KAT.

I actually like Brunson - Deuce - Mikal - Giannis - KAT a lot better than

Brunson - Mikal - OG - Giannis - Mitch

First is a much more skilled lineup with better spacing, pacing, ball handling, shooting.

Still don’t know how it’s going to work with a player with the highest usage rate in the league(Giannis) and JB and his high usage rate, using most of the shot clock. KAT was 24th this season. What about touches for the rest of the rotation?

this is our biggest issue

we need to share the ball. I can't think of any team winning a championship behind a pg in ISO

may win during the season and I may be forgetting one but we need the synergy of moving the ball and keeping the opponent's D honest and making all of them work

Philc1 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:You guys really want Durant? Man is 36 years old. He also thin skinned. I don't think he is built for NY.

Not going to beat a dead horse but the age gap is irrelevant to me because we are looking at a 2-3 year stint whether it's him or KAT, and then they come off the books and we can go FA shopping before Brunson's next deal. To me it is who puts you in a better position for the next 2-3 years? And the answer to me is obvious.

Age matters especially when you are dealing with a 37 year old player day 1 of next season who will probably miss 20-35 games

I’m with DLeethal on this.

If Knicks get Durant I believe it will be with a 2 or 3 year extension —- taking him to 39/40 seasons.

The way Kat is already moving up/down the court and playing D already at 29 I’m not sure I’d want anything to do with him in 3+ years either.

Durant is a huge gamble but if he stays healthy he remains an all time great with minimal regression at this point and his D is far superior to Kat.

Listen I was posting / defending Kat all playoffs and sharing his crazy offensive #s but this Kat doesn’t seem mature enough to give a **** about D or fouling whenever he feels like it —- it’s tough dealing with that.

I would think if we were moving a Kat for KD — we would receive additional assets maybe indirectly via another team in 3-way.

Knixkik wrote:Agreed that I don’t see us making big moves, especially after firing Thibs. I see they chose to get a coach for the players we have, as opposed to the other way around where we make moves to satisfy Thibs ethos. My thought for judging Leon this summer is getting his #1 choice to coach, whomever that is, and convincing 1 or 2 legitimate players to take less money to come here to help improve the team around the margins. Chris Paul, Al Horford, Caris LeVert, Tyus Jones etc. Guys who you would think can make more money but want to come to be the missing piece. We take our top 7 and add 1 or 2 really good free agents who are willing to come for cheap because they believe we can win it all.

I thought we’ve already had Shams state that Knicks are big game hunting —- I don’t buy our wing talent right now too inconsistent.