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5/18/2022  9:04 AM
Knixkik wrote:
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TPercy wrote:

Man, those shooting percentages really dropped over the course of the season. I'm worried about how much offensive initiation and shot creation he'll be able to provide.

He was playing injured at that point.

Makes sense.

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5/18/2022  11:05 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
TPercy wrote:

Man, those shooting percentages really dropped over the course of the season. I'm worried about how much offensive initiation and shot creation he'll be able to provide.

He was playing injured at that point.

Makes sense.

I think he’s a better shooter than the #s give him credit for. Either way you are getting someone who can get to the rim with either hand and can defend on ball at a high level at a minimum. We can’t be upset if Knicks take this guy. After the top 6 are taken the remaining players will be:
Griffin
Mathruin
Daniels
Duren
Sochan
Davis

Out of all those names, Davis has the most Star potential and one of the highest floors.

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5/18/2022  11:11 AM
TPercy wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
TPercy wrote:

Man, those shooting percentages really dropped over the course of the season. I'm worried about how much offensive initiation and shot creation he'll be able to provide.

He was playing injured at that point.

Makes sense.

I think he’s a better shooter than the #s give him credit for. Either way you are getting someone who can get to the rim with either hand and can defend on ball at a high level at a minimum. We can’t be upset if Knicks take this guy. After the top 6 are taken the remaining players will be:
Griffin
Mathruin
Daniels
Duren
Sochan
Davis

Out of all those names, Davis has the most Star potential and one of the highest floors.

Good list of 6 to focus on. The one guy I definitely would pass on is Griffin. And I'd super hesitate or I'd need some good feedback from scouts to go in on Duren.

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5/18/2022  11:21 AM
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
TPercy wrote:

Man, those shooting percentages really dropped over the course of the season. I'm worried about how much offensive initiation and shot creation he'll be able to provide.

He was playing injured at that point.

Makes sense.

I think he’s a better shooter than the #s give him credit for. Either way you are getting someone who can get to the rim with either hand and can defend on ball at a high level at a minimum. We can’t be upset if Knicks take this guy. After the top 6 are taken the remaining players will be:
Griffin
Mathruin
Daniels
Duren
Sochan
Davis

Out of all those names, Davis has the most Star potential and one of the highest floors.

Good list of 6 to focus on. The one guy I definitely would pass on is Griffin. And I'd super hesitate or I'd need some good feedback from scouts to go in on Duren.

Yes I would be genuinely dissapointed if we drafted Griffin. He’s just another version of Nesmith at this point unless his athleticism comes back. Also, I like Duren and think he can be an instant contributor, but I wonder whether rumors of him being 6’9 are true. Either way my preferences goes something like this tho it’s not fixed:
1)Daniels
2) Davis
3) Mathurin
4) Sochan
5)Duren
6) Dieng
7) Griffin

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5/18/2022  12:12 PM
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5/18/2022  1:34 PM
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5/18/2022  1:39 PM

For those who questioned Davis’s height. He’s damn near same as Mathurin.

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5/18/2022  2:15 PM
^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/

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5/18/2022  2:21 PM
martin wrote:^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/


These bodyfat measurements are so over the place that I can't really take them seriously. That said, Marjon and Dyson came away with some freaky measurable a for their positions.
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5/18/2022  2:33 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/


These bodyfat measurements are so over the place that I can't really take them seriously. That said, Marjon and Dyson came away with some freaky measurable a for their positions.

I was hoping Dyson was even taller and could eventually start at like your SF position but with PG skills.

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5/18/2022  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2022  3:15 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/


These bodyfat measurements are so over the place that I can't really take them seriously. That said, Marjon and Dyson came away with some freaky measurable a for their positions.

I was hoping Dyson was even taller and could eventually start at like your SF position but with PG skills.

Eh, that freaky hairstyle gives another .5 to 1 inch. Physically, he's lengthier than Reggie Bullock and he's physical. I think he could still play SF. I'd like to see him bulk up a little, but not really a concern given his age and exposure to the average American diet.

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5/18/2022  3:17 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/


These bodyfat measurements are so over the place that I can't really take them seriously. That said, Marjon and Dyson came away with some freaky measurable a for their positions.

I was hoping Dyson was even taller and could eventually start at like your SF position but with PG skills.

Eh, that freaky hairstyle gives another .5 to 1 inch. Physically, he's lengthier than Reggie Bullock and he's physical. I think he could still play SF. I'd like to see him bulk up a little, but not really a concern given his age and exposure to the average American diet.

Exactly, dude needs to put some big macs away to get over 200lbs

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5/18/2022  3:49 PM
Some consensus mocks: https://www.nba.com/news/2022-consensus-mock-draft

MOCK DRAFTS
ESPN.com

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Keegan Murray
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Dyson Daniels
10. Johnny Davis
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Mark Williams
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

The Ringer

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. A.J. Griffin
8. Johnny Davis
9. Bennedict Mathurin
10. Jeremy Sochan
11. Jalen Duren
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Mark Williams
14. Dyson Daniels

Last updated: May 17

The Athletic

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Shaedon Sharpe
6. Keegan Murray
7. Jeremy Sochan
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. A.J. Griffin
10. Johnny Davis
11. Jalen Duren
12. Dyson Daniels
13. Mark Williams
14. Ousmane Dieng

Last updated: May 17

SI.com

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. Bennedict Mathurin
8. Dyson Daniels
9. Johnny Davis
10. Jalen Duren
11. A.J. Griffin
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. Ochai Agbaji
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

Yahoo Sports

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Malaki Branham
11. Ochai Agbaji
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. TyTy Washington Jr.
14. A.J. Griffin

Last updated: April 5 (pre-lottery)

Bleacher Report

1. Jabari Smith
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Chet Holmgren
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. A.J. Griffin
7. Shaedon Sharpe
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Malaki Branham
11. TyTy Washington Jr.
12. Jalen Duren
13. Mark Williams
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: April 16 (pre-lottery)

NetScouts Basketball

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Keegan Murray
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. A.J. Griffin
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Jalen Duren
11. Dyson Daniels
12. TyTy Washington Jr.
13. Mark Williams
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: May 18

CBS Sports (Gary Parrish)

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Jabari Smith
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Ochai Agbaji
8. Johnny Davis
9. Jalen Duren
10. Bennedict Mathurin
11. Jeremy Sochan
12. A.J. Griffin
13. Mark Williams
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 18

CBS Sports (Kyle Boone)

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Jaden Ivey
4. Jabari Smith
5. Shaedon Sharpe
6. Keegan Murray
7. TyTy Washington Jr.
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Jeremy Sochan
10. Ochai Agbaji
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Jalen Duren
14. Johnny Davis

Last updated: May 17 (pre-lottery)

SB Nation

1. Paolo Banchero
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jabari Smith
4. Jaden Ivey
5. A.J. Griffin
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. Keegan Murray
9. Bennedict Mathurin
10. Johnny Davis
11. Dyson Daniels
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. Tari Eason
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

USA Today/FTW

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. Jalen Duran
8. Jeremy Sochan
9. Johnny Davis
10. TyTy Washington Jr.
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. A.J. Griffin
13. Dyson Daniels
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

Basketball News

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jaden Ivey
4. Paolo Banchero
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Bennedict Mathurin
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Jalen Duren
10. Johnny Davis
11. TyTy Washington Jr.
12. Mark Williams
13. Dyson Daniels
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: May 8 (pre-lottery)

* * *

ESPN Insider: Jonathan Givony

The Ringer: Kevin O’Connor

The Athletic: Sam Vecenie

SI.com: Jeremy Woo

Bleacher Report: Jonathan Wasserman

Yahoo Sports: Krysten Peek

NetScouts Basketball: Carl Berman

CBS Sports: Kyle Boone, Gary Parrish

SB Nation: Ricky O’Donnell

USA Today / FTW: Bryan Kalbrosky

Basketball News: Matt Babcock

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5/18/2022  4:10 PM
Dark Horse pick to sneak into the lottery

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5/18/2022  4:50 PM
martin wrote:Some consensus mocks: https://www.nba.com/news/2022-consensus-mock-draft

MOCK DRAFTS
ESPN.com

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Keegan Murray
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Dyson Daniels
10. Johnny Davis
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Mark Williams
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

The Ringer

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. A.J. Griffin
8. Johnny Davis
9. Bennedict Mathurin
10. Jeremy Sochan
11. Jalen Duren
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Mark Williams
14. Dyson Daniels

Last updated: May 17

The Athletic

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Shaedon Sharpe
6. Keegan Murray
7. Jeremy Sochan
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. A.J. Griffin
10. Johnny Davis
11. Jalen Duren
12. Dyson Daniels
13. Mark Williams
14. Ousmane Dieng

Last updated: May 17

SI.com

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. Bennedict Mathurin
8. Dyson Daniels
9. Johnny Davis
10. Jalen Duren
11. A.J. Griffin
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. Ochai Agbaji
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

Yahoo Sports

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Malaki Branham
11. Ochai Agbaji
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. TyTy Washington Jr.
14. A.J. Griffin

Last updated: April 5 (pre-lottery)

Bleacher Report

1. Jabari Smith
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Chet Holmgren
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. A.J. Griffin
7. Shaedon Sharpe
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Malaki Branham
11. TyTy Washington Jr.
12. Jalen Duren
13. Mark Williams
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: April 16 (pre-lottery)

NetScouts Basketball

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Keegan Murray
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. A.J. Griffin
8. Bennedict Mathurin
9. Johnny Davis
10. Jalen Duren
11. Dyson Daniels
12. TyTy Washington Jr.
13. Mark Williams
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: May 18

CBS Sports (Gary Parrish)

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Jabari Smith
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Ochai Agbaji
8. Johnny Davis
9. Jalen Duren
10. Bennedict Mathurin
11. Jeremy Sochan
12. A.J. Griffin
13. Mark Williams
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 18

CBS Sports (Kyle Boone)

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Paolo Banchero
3. Jaden Ivey
4. Jabari Smith
5. Shaedon Sharpe
6. Keegan Murray
7. TyTy Washington Jr.
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Jeremy Sochan
10. Ochai Agbaji
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. Ousmane Dieng
13. Jalen Duren
14. Johnny Davis

Last updated: May 17 (pre-lottery)

SB Nation

1. Paolo Banchero
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jabari Smith
4. Jaden Ivey
5. A.J. Griffin
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Jalen Duren
8. Keegan Murray
9. Bennedict Mathurin
10. Johnny Davis
11. Dyson Daniels
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. Tari Eason
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

USA Today/FTW

1. Chet Holmgren
2. Jabari Smith
3. Paolo Banchero
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Jaden Ivey
6. Keegan Murray
7. Jalen Duran
8. Jeremy Sochan
9. Johnny Davis
10. TyTy Washington Jr.
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. A.J. Griffin
13. Dyson Daniels
14. Malaki Branham

Last updated: May 17

Basketball News

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jaden Ivey
4. Paolo Banchero
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Bennedict Mathurin
8. A.J. Griffin
9. Jalen Duren
10. Johnny Davis
11. TyTy Washington Jr.
12. Mark Williams
13. Dyson Daniels
14. Ochai Agbaji

Last updated: May 8 (pre-lottery)

* * *

ESPN Insider: Jonathan Givony

The Ringer: Kevin O’Connor

The Athletic: Sam Vecenie

SI.com: Jeremy Woo

Bleacher Report: Jonathan Wasserman

Yahoo Sports: Krysten Peek

NetScouts Basketball: Carl Berman

CBS Sports: Kyle Boone, Gary Parrish

SB Nation: Ricky O’Donnell

USA Today / FTW: Bryan Kalbrosky

Basketball News: Matt Babcock


The NBA needs to revoke CBS Sports press pass to all things draft related. How the hell do they have Ty Ty Washington that high?
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5/18/2022  6:18 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:^ good stuff.

Here is a link to full lists: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/


These bodyfat measurements are so over the place that I can't really take them seriously. That said, Marjon and Dyson came away with some freaky measurable a for their positions.

I was hoping Dyson was even taller and could eventually start at like your SF position but with PG skills.


You could easily slot him at SF. Man has gone up against NBA 3s and dosen't get bumped that easily. Only thing I'd be concerned about is spacing if he starts but he can come off the bench too.
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5/18/2022  6:19 PM
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His shot isn't nearly as broken as Lonzo's was, but if he can get that same shooting coach this guy will be an all star.

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5/18/2022  6:20 PM
Agreed BDG, and we should cast Kevin O Conner from the Ringer into mock draft exile as well. He thought Killian Hayes was the next James Harden.
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