joec32033 wrote:I love Felton. Chandler and him and Shump are my favorite Knicks. In that order. That being said, bottom line, when Felton presses and tries to play up to his competition, he plays bad. He tried to play up to Deron, Kyrie, and tried to demolish Lin instead of playing his game. When he presses to do well, he plays poorly.

joec - outstanding observation. Ray also struggles with maintaining positive body language. After missed shots, he allows his frustrations to boil to the surface. Instead of focusing on other aspects of the game he takes the approach of attempting to shoot his way back.

This is where watching Jason Kidd go 2-11 and still impact a game in positive ways will be instructive to Felton. Like Clyde, Kidds expression never changes. The quintessential
professional.

While healing, Felton can experience the peaks and valleys, and follow his running buddies, from a less possessive angle.

VCoug wrote:Last season we were the 5th best defense in the league using basketball-reference.com's metrics; this year we're 16th. Last season we were 11th with 94.7 while playing at the 5th fastest pace in the league at 93.2 possessions; this year we're 12th at 96.7 ppg but at the 12th slowest pace at 91.7 possessions. Last season we 10th in fg%, 43.7%; 23rd in 3fg%, 35.9%; and 13th in eFG%, 48.5%. This year we're 22nd in fg%, 45.5%; 23rd in 3fg%, 36.7%; and 25th in eFG%, 50.4%.

I can't remember us getting a defensive stop when we need it, unless you want to Telfair stepping out of bounds with one second left in the game the other night.

This line is hereby nominated as the best line if the week:

I can't remember us getting a defensive stop when we need it, unless you want to Telfair stepping out of bounds with one second left in the game the other night.

Enlarge this. Frame it and hang it in a prominent place in the living room.

mrKnickShot wrote:
WE ARE NOT A BETTER DEFENSIVE TEAM THAN LAST YEAR!!!

GEEEZ

put the pom poms away.

Felton is good at not turning the ball over, I will give you that. However, its hard to turn the ball over when you are not passing it (and shooting 20 shots a game).

Vcyoung had a good observation. Felton plays really badly when he is trying to show off. That is sad because I would imagine that he will try to show off in the playoffs.

I miss the sugar ray felton who played at UNC where (college) players actually listen to coaches.

MKS - don't you find it the least bit ironic that on a "Pure Knicks Love" site, with a team owning one of the best records in the NBA, you are screaming "put the Pom poms away"?

Rather than nitpicks flaws, if I decide to cheer too loud, please excuse my extremely annoying famdom that celebrates each and every starter. It IS a team sport. If a standing ovation is not your cup of tea, please excuse my blocking your view. It's kinda fun to be a Knicks fan these days.

Game winning shots that drop while the backboard light is lit make me smile.

So sue me.

misterearl wrote:Letting Go

joec32033 wrote:I love Felton. Chandler and him and Shump are my favorite Knicks. In that order. That being said, bottom line, when Felton presses and tries to play up to his competition, he plays bad. He tried to play up to Deron, Kyrie, and tried to demolish Lin instead of playing his game. When he presses to do well, he plays poorly.

joec - outstanding observation. Ray also struggles with maintaining positive body language. After missed shots, he allows his frustrations to boil to the surface. Instead of focusing on other aspects of the game he takes the approach of attempting to shoot his way back.

This is where watching Jason Kidd go 2-11 and still impact a game in positive ways will be instructive to Felton. Like Clyde, Kidds expression never changes. The quintessential
professional.

While healing, Felton can experience the peaks and valleys, and follow his running buddies, from a less possessive angle.

yellowboy90 wrote:Felton is 12th in ppp off the PnR. Felton needs to rest and watch while hopefully learning

Do we have a player who, despite all his flaws, brings intensity and toughness every night?

Do we have a player who fights, never backs down and plays hard - no matter what?

Yes we do.

Raymond Felton.

StarksEwing1 wrote:BUT felton still has to make smarter decisions sometimes

Nobody makes the right decision all of the time.

Effort is forever.

I go back and forth with you guys arguing about the game and the team...I'm just amazed that many of you have no clue what Felton means to this team...I do understand he does take some god awful shots at times...He maybe needs to cut 5 to 7 shots out of his repertoire... But did you guys miss all of last season???..Do you guys not understand what stability he brings to the lineup and other player games...Do you not know what he means to JKidd's game, Chandler's game and even Melo to some extent...The defensive pressure he brings...20-8 with him in the line up is a coincidence...Amazing..I'm most concern about Amare and how he fits without Felton..

Raymond Felton is a significant part of our crazy, imperfect equation. Statistics do not measure his value on the court. Glue players are never pretty.

The difference without him is subtle. There is less sweet dripped on the floor.

Mike Woodson must monitor minutes by the minute.

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert (with a sincere apology tomholfresh)

I go back and forth with you guys arguing about the game and the team...I'm just amazed that many of you have no clue what Felton means to this team...I do understand he does take some god awful shots at times...He maybe needs to cut 5 to 7 shots out of his repertoire... But did you guys miss all of last season???..Do you guys not understand what stability he brings to the lineup and other player games...Do you not know what he means to JKidd's game, Chandler's game and even Melo to some extent...The defensive pressure he brings...20-8 with him in the line up is a coincidence...Amazing..I'm most concern about Amare and how he fits without Felton..

Raymond Felton is a significant part of our crazy, imperfect equation. Statistics do not measure his value on the court. Glue players are never pretty.

The difference without him is subtle. There is less sweet dripped on the floor.

Mike Woodson must monitor minutes by the minute.

It's funny, when I've been saying the same exact thing for the whole season I was called a hater and told that I should stop looking at the box score.

holfresh wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:We do need a starting caliber PG active besides Kidd. He's not an above average defender, despite what you might think. I'm not sure he's vital to KIdd's game. Throwing Alley oops to CHandler is nice and I know it has alot of flair and sparkle but he has pretty bad court vision and descion making capabilites in general. I think 20-8 is more due to Melo and Kidd and probably JR than Felton. Nobody maligns Felton's effort and the fact we need a starting PG. Doesn't mean he's a good one at this point of the season.

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert (with a sincere apology tomholfresh)

I go back and forth with you guys arguing about the game and the team...I'm just amazed that many of you have no clue what Felton means to this team...I do understand he does take some god awful shots at times...He maybe needs to cut 5 to 7 shots out of his repertoire... But did you guys miss all of last season???..Do you guys not understand what stability he brings to the lineup and other player games...Do you not know what he means to JKidd's game, Chandler's game and even Melo to some extent...The defensive pressure he brings...20-8 with him in the line up is a coincidence...Amazing..I'm most concern about Amare and how he fits without Felton..

Raymond Felton is a significant part of our crazy, imperfect equation. Statistics do not measure his value on the court. Glue players are never pretty.

The difference without him is subtle. There is less sweet dripped on the floor.

Mike Woodson must monitor minutes by the minute.

If u think his biggest addition to this team is alley ooppss then u are missing a big part of the game...

When did I say that? That's certainly his biggest thing going with CHandler but I never said it was his biggest contribution to the team.