Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Anthony only averaged 15pts per game on under 40% shooting for the first 7 games under Woodson. Yet we still were 6-1 during that stretch. Was he trying to sabotage Woodson too?

If MDA coached like Woodson then perhaps the sight would be set on the 1-3 seed.

In case you missed it and wanted to reply.

He probably wanted to make sure that he liked woody as a coach before he decided not to dog it further.

Or he was hurt.

Geeee, I never thought of that or even considered it a viable scenario.

I hate myself for being so dumb and close-minded.

All of Melo's physical injuries somehow went away as soon as Amare got injured? The more likely explanation is that he's just a better PF than SF.

I don't disagree with him playing better without all 3 on the court at the same time being that it is a cloggy situation. PF vs SF? That all depends on the matching personnel

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Anthony only averaged 15pts per game on under 40% shooting for the first 7 games under Woodson. Yet we still were 6-1 during that stretch. Was he trying to sabotage Woodson too?

If MDA coached like Woodson then perhaps the sight would be set on the 1-3 seed.

In case you missed it and wanted to reply.

He probably wanted to make sure that he liked woody as a coach before he decided not to dog it further.

Or he was hurt.

Geeee, I never thought of that or even considered it a viable scenario.

I hate myself for being so dumb and close-minded.

All of Melo's physical injuries somehow went away as soon as Amare got injured? The more likely explanation is that he's just a better PF than SF.

I don't disagree with him playing better without all 3 on the court at the same time being that it is a cloggy situation. PF vs SF? That all depends on the matching personnel

He plays better with the floor spread out well. In theory, that could be done with Melo playing SF but we don't have the right roster for it.

I agree 100 percent. Thats why I think we need a stretch 4 who plays defense.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Anthony only averaged 15pts per game on under 40% shooting for the first 7 games under Woodson. Yet we still were 6-1 during that stretch. Was he trying to sabotage Woodson too?

If MDA coached like Woodson then perhaps the sight would be set on the 1-3 seed.

In case you missed it and wanted to reply.

He probably wanted to make sure that he liked woody as a coach before he decided not to dog it further.

Or he was hurt.

Geeee, I never thought of that or even considered it a viable scenario.

I hate myself for being so dumb and close-minded.

All of Melo's physical injuries somehow went away as soon as Amare got injured? The more likely explanation is that he's just a better PF than SF.

I don't disagree with him playing better without all 3 on the court at the same time being that it is a cloggy situation. PF vs SF? That all depends on the matching personnel

He plays better with the floor spread out well. In theory, that could be done with Melo playing SF but we don't have the right roster for it.

I agree 100 percent. Thats why I think we need a stretch 4 who plays defense.

This team has limited CONSISTENT offense outside of Melo and Amare. Chandler has no offense. Fields has limited offense. Novak is a 3 point specialist.

Team needs pieces but in the mean time we need Melo to be superman.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Anthony only averaged 15pts per game on under 40% shooting for the first 7 games under Woodson. Yet we still were 6-1 during that stretch. Was he trying to sabotage Woodson too?

If MDA coached like Woodson then perhaps the sight would be set on the 1-3 seed.

In case you missed it and wanted to reply.

He probably wanted to make sure that he liked woody as a coach before he decided not to dog it further.

Or he was hurt.

Geeee, I never thought of that or even considered it a viable scenario.

I hate myself for being so dumb and close-minded.

All of Melo's physical injuries somehow went away as soon as Amare got injured? The more likely explanation is that he's just a better PF than SF.

I don't disagree with him playing better without all 3 on the court at the same time being that it is a cloggy situation. PF vs SF? That all depends on the matching personnel

He plays better with the floor spread out well. In theory, that could be done with Melo playing SF but we don't have the right roster for it.

I agree 100 percent. Thats why I think we need a stretch 4 who plays defense.

ItalianStallion wrote:I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this team is going nowhere with Woodson. They aren't going to win a "playoff series" with Melo taking 30 shots a night and everyone else standing around watching him.

Maybe Melo is happy with this style of play.

Maybe the fans are happy with some extra regular season wins now that Melo isn't dogging his ex coach out of a job.

But we have zero chance of getting out of the first round unless we play at a faster pace, space the court, share the ball, and get everyone involved in the offense the way D'Antoni was trying to structure the team.

Melo dominated the ball for a lot of very good Denver teams and could never get out of the first round until Billups joined him and scored very efficiently as a 2nd option, spaced the floor with great 3 point shooting, and controlled the offense so Melo didn't go hog wild every night and score 35-40 every night BUT LOSE.

We don't need Melo taking a lot of tough shots even if he's making more of them than most other NBA players could.

We need as many Chandler P&Rs leading to dunks as we can get.

We need as many Stat P&Rs leading to dunks as we can get.

We need as many fast breaks, back door cuts etc.. to Fields as we can get

We need as many open looks for Novak from beyond the arc as we can get. \

etc...

Those are the great looks that lead to an efficient offense. But to get them you have to pass, move the ball etc... You can't be dribbling in ISO and taking long contested 2s even if you are making 50% of them. That's the LAST OPTION, not the FIRST OPTION!

Its a thin line but Woodson is managing it well.

If we have to shoot 60% from the 3 to win its not a good outlook to win a series.

Progress is being made most every game.

Fields had a great game yesterday.

ShellTopAdidas wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Without Anthony, the Knicks don't make the playoffs...

Yes they would've. Maybe not a championship, but they would've made the playoffs.

LOL, you're joking right? D'Antoni was on the next cab to loserville, the guy lost the team already at 18-24.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

ShellTopAdidas wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

MozelGovCocktail wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:EWwwww, Woodson almost has the same win total of MDA in half the games. That's embarassing!

There are Knicks fans that are embarrased to finish 7 or 8. Had Anthony applied himself earlier, perhaps the sight would be set on 3 or 4.

Without Anthony, the Knicks don't make the playoffs...

Yes they would've. Maybe not a championship, but they would've made the playoffs.

LOL, you're joking right? D'Antoni was on the next cab to loserville, the guy lost the team already at 18-24.

Without Anthony but with Lin, I believe they would have made the playoffs. With neither, no way.

No, we're talking about the 18-24 Knicks with all major players healthy, not Linsanity. They wouldn't have made the playoffs, morale was down, D'Antoni lost the confidence of the team, and his days were numbered already.