mrKnickShot wrote:

martin wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

martin wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

martin wrote:meanwhile, Amare actually looked decent this game.

Numbers wise - better.

Rebounding is still way under par. The fumble-itis needs to end.

But better.

We beat Mavs on the boards and don't recall Amare losing a rebound battle to anyone. He didn't rebound poorly.

yeah, I didn't see the rebounding as a problem, even if his numbers were low. and a lot of the fumbles were either passes that were off or in heavy traffic, or Amare was fouled and it wasn't called.

I was more focusing on defense and his explosion.

Amare definitely played better defense.

He has terrible hands. Awful. How about that play that went to review?

Anyway, he definitely played much better tonight. It sad that are front line can't all have a good game in the same game.

They just don't really click? System does not cater to all of them? ... Frustrating

Amare has excellent hands. Ask Nash about that. The play they were reviewing at the end of the game...? is that what you are referring to? The one where in the replay they show Dirk slapping his wrist in an obvious foul?

are you watching this game and deciding Amare has bad hands?

No. I am watching Amare play all this season and last and IMHO, he has from the worst fumbleitis ive seen.

Even with that, he played great last year. So we can deal with that. Maybe he had good hands in PHX - since everything was peaches in PHX.

I did not see the Dirk foul - missed that.

STAT was an MVP caliber guy last season so his stone hands were less of a concern. But the fact is he has some of the worst hands in the league when it comes to controlling a pass.

mrKnickShot wrote:Look at all the Dirk ISO's. They work. And they would work with Melo as well and get him into the game.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

Melo had a lot of iso plays in this game. Melo just missed his shots.

NYKBocker wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Look at all the Dirk ISO's. They work. And they would work with Melo as well and get him into the game.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

Melo had a lot of iso plays in this game. Melo just missed his shots.

right, and it's the timing and the type of iso you want to take.... if Dirk on Novak or Lin or Shump, you iso all the time.

If Melo is double teamed, you don't want him to take an iso shot.

Melo's decision about when to do iso is not on level with Dirk, and it ain't close IMHO.

mrKnickShot wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Look at all the Dirk ISO's. They work. And they would work with Melo as well and get him into the game.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

Melo had a lot of iso plays in this game. Melo just missed his shots.

Yes. His shot is way off and he seems out of rhythm. Is it the system? Is he injured? Rusty? Or does he suck all or the sudden?

I think he is rusty but we have to remember that Melo was never been an efficient shooter. He is a volume scorer and since his FG% is only average to begin with, a slump will look like this.

NYKBocker wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Look at all the Dirk ISO's. They work. And they would work with Melo as well and get him into the game.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

Melo had a lot of iso plays in this game. Melo just missed his shots.

Yes. His shot is way off and he seems out of rhythm. Is it the system? Is he injured? Rusty? Or does he suck all or the sudden?

I think he is rusty but we have to remember that Melo was never been an efficient shooter. He is a volume scorer and since his FG% is only average to begin with, a slump will look like this.

career FG % = 45.6
Kobe = 45.4

Career pts per game = 24.7
Kobe = 25.4

FT = 7.8 attempts
Kobe = 7.9

Rebounds = both at 5.8

You don't think that something is wrong this year?

I want to like him, I really do but the more I see, the more I see Stephon the 2nd or "Melo"Bury.

It is no coincidence that the team is 2-4 with him. I don't care who they played. It's no coincidence that every time they made a run last night, he was on the bench.

Just no excuse.

MDA put Melo back in because he did not want to disrespect Melo or out of loyalty again.

In the 4th quarter run by the way, we made the run not because of Baron. We were taking a lot of bad outside shots and if it weren't for Novak hitting 3s and Shump's defense and STAT, we would never had been able to make that run. Baron penetrated 2-3 times in that segment and made 1 layup. The other time he was just flipping it to the rim hoping it goes in.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:This loss is all on Melo. He had his shots in the flow of the offense and on ISOs. His defense was bad and he did not rebound. In the 4th, when we went up, MDA should have replaced Baron only and kept Jorts in. The only player in that group that was sucking wind was Baron. Dude needed a breather.

MDA put Melo back in because he did not want to disrespect Melo or out of loyalty again.

In the 4th quarter run by the way, we made the run not because of Baron. We were taking a lot of bad outside shots and if it weren't for Novak hitting 3s and Shump's defense and STAT, we would never had been able to make that run. Baron penetrated 2-3 times in that segment and made 1 layup. The other time he was just flipping it to the rim hoping it goes in.

Good analysis. The only thing I would disagree with is that Jorts was bad on the offensive end. I would have put Chandler back for him and left Stat and Novak with Lin and Shumpert.

I don't know what game y'all were watching, but the entire team wit the exception of Shumpert and Amar'e (and possibly Fields) played awful. Melo had an awful game, and maybe he was first in line, but that line was pretty friggin long

SlimChin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:This loss is all on Melo. He had his shots in the flow of the offense and on ISOs. His defense was bad and he did not rebound. In the 4th, when we went up, MDA should have replaced Baron only and kept Jorts in. The only player in that group that was sucking wind was Baron. Dude needed a breather.

MDA put Melo back in because he did not want to disrespect Melo or out of loyalty again.

In the 4th quarter run by the way, we made the run not because of Baron. We were taking a lot of bad outside shots and if it weren't for Novak hitting 3s and Shump's defense and STAT, we would never had been able to make that run. Baron penetrated 2-3 times in that segment and made 1 layup. The other time he was just flipping it to the rim hoping it goes in.

i lose my sh!t when i see Baron dribbling up the court full speed and chucking up 3s without even looking for his teammates. we could've got some more 3s from Novak but he started to force up shots in the 4th because he wasn't in his spot. That's why D'Antoni should've put Lin in sooner because Lin's better at giving the ball to Novak where he wants it.

i say use baron sparingly...

Baron constantly hits Novak with a pass that Novak has to reach for, disrupting Novak's rhythm and the shot is BRICK CITY BABY!

Lin is much better at making a solid pass that Novak can just turn into RAIN BALLS like a robot.