TheGame wrote:At this point, I am fairly convinced that 90% of everything Trump said was total BS, and he is not going to do most of what he claimed. He is never going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. He is not getting term limits passed (which would require a constitutional amendment). He probably is not going to cut regulations to any significant extent and he simply is not smart enough to fix the tax code. He will lower taxes on the rich, he will pull back Obamacare, and he will increase defense spending. Beyond that, I have doubts he will do much else. The real danger is in foreign policy because we have to worry about his temperament, and if he really plans to play the role of isolationist, it may give countries like Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia the opportunity to expand their power. We will just have to wait and see.

Bonn1997 wrote:

TheGame wrote:At this point, I am fairly convinced that 90% of everything Trump said was total BS, and he is not going to do most of what he claimed. He is never going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. He is not getting term limits passed (which would require a constitutional amendment). He probably is not going to cut regulations to any significant extent and he simply is not smart enough to fix the tax code. He will lower taxes on the rich, he will pull back Obamacare, and he will increase defense spending. Beyond that, I have doubts he will do much else. The real danger is in foreign policy because we have to worry about his temperament, and if he really plans to play the role of isolationist, it may give countries like Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia the opportunity to expand their power. We will just have to wait and see.

I agree with that except the part about regulations. Why do you think he won't cut back regulations? I think he wants corporations to have free reign.
I also think he's very good at selling ideas to the public. Even if he doesn't do 90% of what he said he would or if he does them and things get worse in the country, I worry he'll be able to convince enough people that he's doing a good job.

A lot of Trump's campaign promises were just for show. The Congress will effectively slow him down on the really expensive policy. His Tax policy will create a sugar rush but then inevitably the crash will come.

I think the culture stuff and the Supreme Court will be a huge deal for Progressives to accept. The foreign policy stuff is scary. He's very naive about foreign affairs and that can be dangerous.

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

TheGame wrote:At this point, I am fairly convinced that 90% of everything Trump said was total BS, and he is not going to do most of what he claimed. He is never going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. He is not getting term limits passed (which would require a constitutional amendment). He probably is not going to cut regulations to any significant extent and he simply is not smart enough to fix the tax code. He will lower taxes on the rich, he will pull back Obamacare, and he will increase defense spending. Beyond that, I have doubts he will do much else. The real danger is in foreign policy because we have to worry about his temperament, and if he really plans to play the role of isolationist, it may give countries like Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia the opportunity to expand their power. We will just have to wait and see.

I agree with that except the part about regulations. Why do you think he won't cut back regulations? I think he wants corporations to have free reign.
I also think he's very good at selling ideas to the public. Even if he doesn't do 90% of what he said he would or if he does them and things get worse in the country, I worry he'll be able to convince enough people that he's doing a good job.

A lot of Trump's campaign promises were just for show. The Congress will effectively slow him down on the really expensive policy. His Tax policy will create a sugar rush but then inevitably the crash will come.

I think the culture stuff and the Supreme Court will be a huge deal for Progressives to accept. The foreign policy stuff is scary. He's very naive about foreign affairs and that can be dangerous.

Rookie wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

TheGame wrote:At this point, I am fairly convinced that 90% of everything Trump said was total BS, and he is not going to do most of what he claimed. He is never going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. He is not getting term limits passed (which would require a constitutional amendment). He probably is not going to cut regulations to any significant extent and he simply is not smart enough to fix the tax code. He will lower taxes on the rich, he will pull back Obamacare, and he will increase defense spending. Beyond that, I have doubts he will do much else. The real danger is in foreign policy because we have to worry about his temperament, and if he really plans to play the role of isolationist, it may give countries like Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia the opportunity to expand their power. We will just have to wait and see.

I agree with that except the part about regulations. Why do you think he won't cut back regulations? I think he wants corporations to have free reign.
I also think he's very good at selling ideas to the public. Even if he doesn't do 90% of what he said he would or if he does them and things get worse in the country, I worry he'll be able to convince enough people that he's doing a good job.

A lot of Trump's campaign promises were just for show. The Congress will effectively slow him down on the really expensive policy. His Tax policy will create a sugar rush but then inevitably the crash will come.

I think the culture stuff and the Supreme Court will be a huge deal for Progressives to accept. The foreign policy stuff is scary. He's very naive about foreign affairs and that can be dangerous.

Democrats have been running on the 'change' platform for a decade or more now and haven't delivered. Now we have a President elect who might actually follow through with making real changes to our failing systems and Democrats are freaking out and crying gloom and doom for the free world as we know it. It is all just so surreal. Liberal democrats are labeling Trump a racist and yet race relations are as bad as they have ever been under Obama.

Liberal democrats in urban areas employ millions of illegals, paying them sub standard wages and paying nothing into the tax system. These illegals need to join the system, get decent wages and pay their share of taxes. The middle class has been carrying this country on it's shoulders for far to long. Things need to change. I don't think deportation is the answer, but I would like to see everyone who is here illegally pay their fair share of taxes to support the system that they take so much from for nothing.

Dems did deliver change, just not what you may have wanted. Just remember that Republicans stalled, obstructed and ran out the clock in order to make government fail. They don't believe in government so they do everything they can to limit it from doing any good.

Just so you know it's Republicans who are in charge in RED America and they are 💯 responsible for most of the problems in those cities and towns. Big Business is in control of the government now and you and Trump's voters don't even realize you let the Fox into the Hen House. The Republicans are bought and paid for and will do the bidding of their masters. Just like they always do.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is the first time since our early days that a non-politician is POTUS. He will need to time to grow into the role and there will be bumps along the way.

Trump is a man of energy and action. He will try to do many things. Some will work, some will not.

His most important job is to keep the citizens of the USA safe. Then the economy and upholding the constitution. Everything else fills in afterwards. Without security, freedom and prosperity, the other issues are not as important.

The sun is shining today and we are all on the same team. Let's give the him a chance to do right.

I know two wrongs don't make a right, but if the Dems stopped playing nice and decided to fight fire with fire I wouldn't lose any sleep.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is the first time since our early days that a non-politician is POTUS. He will need to time to grow into the role and there will be bumps along the way.

Trump is a man of energy and action. He will try to do many things. Some will work, some will not.

His most important job is to keep the citizens of the USA safe. Then the economy and upholding the constitution. Everything else fills in afterwards. Without security, freedom and prosperity, the other issues are not as important.

The sun is shining today and we are all on the same team. Let's give the him a chance to do right.

Yeah you had a full glass of Koolaid this morning. It's not all just about Trump. The REAL Republicans are in full control and they have their own agenda. They couldn't give a Flip about the people.

Your faith in Trump is odd to me. He's never been a public servant and now suddenly at 70 as President he's going to know how to be one? This will be very interesting to see.

Rookie wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

TheGame wrote:At this point, I am fairly convinced that 90% of everything Trump said was total BS, and he is not going to do most of what he claimed. He is never going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. He is not getting term limits passed (which would require a constitutional amendment). He probably is not going to cut regulations to any significant extent and he simply is not smart enough to fix the tax code. He will lower taxes on the rich, he will pull back Obamacare, and he will increase defense spending. Beyond that, I have doubts he will do much else. The real danger is in foreign policy because we have to worry about his temperament, and if he really plans to play the role of isolationist, it may give countries like Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia the opportunity to expand their power. We will just have to wait and see.

I agree with that except the part about regulations. Why do you think he won't cut back regulations? I think he wants corporations to have free reign.
I also think he's very good at selling ideas to the public. Even if he doesn't do 90% of what he said he would or if he does them and things get worse in the country, I worry he'll be able to convince enough people that he's doing a good job.

A lot of Trump's campaign promises were just for show. The Congress will effectively slow him down on the really expensive policy. His Tax policy will create a sugar rush but then inevitably the crash will come.

I think the culture stuff and the Supreme Court will be a huge deal for Progressives to accept. The foreign policy stuff is scary. He's very naive about foreign affairs and that can be dangerous.

Democrats have been running on the 'change' platform for a decade or more now and haven't delivered. Now we have a President elect who might actually follow through with making real changes to our failing systems and Democrats are freaking out and crying gloom and doom for the free world as we know it. It is all just so surreal. Liberal democrats are labeling Trump a racist and yet race relations are as bad as they have ever been under Obama.

Liberal democrats in urban areas employ millions of illegals, paying them sub standard wages and paying nothing into the tax system. These illegals need to join the system, get decent wages and pay their share of taxes. The middle class has been carrying this country on it's shoulders for far to long. Things need to change. I don't think deportation is the answer, but I would like to see everyone who is here illegally pay their fair share of taxes to support the system that they take so much from for nothing.

Is this a case of "Dems get what they deserve" because of the failures you outlined above? Is this what is best for this country? Maybe it is... maybe we need this level of trash elevated to the highest positions in the land for voters to wake up and mobilize. I guess thats the upside? I do think its kinda funny to hear things like "America has spoken" when HRC won the popular vote (as Gore did). GOP won fair and square, I have no qualms about that... but the rhetoric is funny to say the least.

nixluva wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is the first time since our early days that a non-politician is POTUS. He will need to time to grow into the role and there will be bumps along the way.

Trump is a man of energy and action. He will try to do many things. Some will work, some will not.

His most important job is to keep the citizens of the USA safe. Then the economy and upholding the constitution. Everything else fills in afterwards. Without security, freedom and prosperity, the other issues are not as important.

The sun is shining today and we are all on the same team. Let's give the him a chance to do right.

Yeah you had a full glass of Koolaid this morning. It's not all just about Trump. The REAL Republicans are in full control and they have their own agenda. They couldn't give a Flip about the people.

Your faith in Trump is odd to me. He's never been a public servent and now suddenly at 70 as President he's going to know how to be one? This will be very interesting to see.

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:"Wearing my Jewish star necklace and a bunch of people yelled at me "**** you! Death to Israel!
These people are full of hate. You'd realize it if you were here."

-My friend in New York

Would you like me to quote what your guy's supporters say? You're aligned with the KKK for goodness sake.

Nice subterfuge--yep Donald Trump is a KKK guy. How about stop being a crybaby sore loser?? How about "some" respect for the person who won fair and square and the 60mm who voted for him?. Give him a chance--what has he done wrong? He outworked Hillary and won the job--simple as that. I get a kick out of how some of these guy's say how can they tell their kids? Did I miss when Donald Trump committed mass murder somewhere? It's funny JR Smith was saying "how can I trust my kids over someone's house who voted for Trump" --the same JR who not that long ago took a picture of his girlfriend's bare ass without her consent and put it on Twitter. This wholier than thou sht is absolutely ridiculous. How about people use common sense?

I want to see how people react when they have 10-20% more in their paycheck in 6 months. Or when someone dies in their family and they get to keep their predecessors hard earned money instead of handing 50% over to the government. Lets see if concentrating on our border security reduces a large amount of drug inflow and subsequent crime. Lets wait and see if he can create 100ks of k of jobs--thats what he wants to do . I really have to question what people listen to --the reason Hillary did not get in the BIOG reason--she had no platform she had NO message--and he did. She had no message for millions of people who have been left holding a bag of nothing.

Guess what sun's coming up tomorrow kid's have to go to school and many of us have to earn some money. I don't really think much of what D Trump is going to do. My hope is that he follows through with many of his promises and I feel very good that he will. Wont effect my life 0/100

And for those who still have their heads and ears some where else -we MAY MAY MAY have dodged a VERY serious bullet with Russia. We were going down a BAD path and Hillary wasn't going to help it.

Give the guy a chance

Very good post BRIGGS. Your honesty is greatly appreciated and you hit the nail on the head. Hillary's/medias campaign was nasty and she put the fear in her followers who were brain washed into thinking all kinds of nasty things like Slavery/nuclear war/loss of women's rights. Now a lot of these morons think the world is coming to an end.

Welpee wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is the first time since our early days that a non-politician is POTUS. He will need to time to grow into the role and there will be bumps along the way.

Trump is a man of energy and action. He will try to do many things. Some will work, some will not.

His most important job is to keep the citizens of the USA safe. Then the economy and upholding the constitution. Everything else fills in afterwards. Without security, freedom and prosperity, the other issues are not as important.

The sun is shining today and we are all on the same team. Let's give the him a chance to do right.

Yeah, the way republicans gave our current president a chance (i.e. obstruct everything he wants to do even things they agree with or can compromise on, make sure he has a failed presidency, make sure he's a one term president)?

I know two wrongs don't make a right, but if the Dems stopped playing nice and decided to fight fire with fire I wouldn't lose any sleep.

We don't have any power though. When Dems had the Senate, they reduced the power of the filibuster. I think it's very likely Republicans will eliminate it completely if we start to use it on important issues. I think that's just how power operates here (and in much of the world). The more power people get, the more they try to take, until eventually they go off a cliff and bring others with them.

Not now, but we'll see what happens in 2018 after a couple of years of Trump. Republicans better get it all in now because I think this may be a serious wake up call for the Dems.

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:"Wearing my Jewish star necklace and a bunch of people yelled at me "**** you! Death to Israel!
These people are full of hate. You'd realize it if you were here."

-My friend in New York

Would you like me to quote what your guy's supporters say? You're aligned with the KKK for goodness sake.

Nice subterfuge--yep Donald Trump is a KKK guy. How about stop being a crybaby sore loser?? How about "some" respect for the person who won fair and square and the 60mm who voted for him?. Give him a chance--what has he done wrong? He outworked Hillary and won the job--simple as that. I get a kick out of how some of these guy's say how can they tell their kids? Did I miss when Donald Trump committed mass murder somewhere? It's funny JR Smith was saying "how can I trust my kids over someone's house who voted for Trump" --the same JR who not that long ago took a picture of his girlfriend's bare ass without her consent and put it on Twitter. This wholier than thou sht is absolutely ridiculous. How about people use common sense?

I want to see how people react when they have 10-20% more in their paycheck in 6 months. Or when someone dies in their family and they get to keep their predecessors hard earned money instead of handing 50% over to the government. Lets see if concentrating on our border security reduces a large amount of drug inflow and subsequent crime. Lets wait and see if he can create 100ks of k of jobs--thats what he wants to do . I really have to question what people listen to --the reason Hillary did not get in the BIOG reason--she had no platform she had NO message--and he did. She had no message for millions of people who have been left holding a bag of nothing.

Guess what sun's coming up tomorrow kid's have to go to school and many of us have to earn some money. I don't really think much of what D Trump is going to do. My hope is that he follows through with many of his promises and I feel very good that he will. Wont effect my life 0/100

And for those who still have their heads and ears some where else -we MAY MAY MAY have dodged a VERY serious bullet with Russia. We were going down a BAD path and Hillary wasn't going to help it.

Give the guy a chance

Very good post BRIGGS. Your honesty is greatly appreciated and you hit the nail on the head. Hillary's/medias campaign was nasty and she put the fear in her followers who were brain washed into thinking all kinds of nasty things like Slavery/nuclear war/loss of women's rights. Now a lot of these morons think the world is coming to an end.