Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50 wins.

Koufos set the tone and Fournier/Chandler/Brewer came in to finish the job....

No Lawson and they're still very competitive. Although brooklyn didn't have Joe Johnson tonight.

The big 50! has Karl set the nuggets on a course for sustained excellence?

No, the lack of grind it out playoff experience will show all of you what I already knew about this Nuggets team.

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

So you're both already trying to cover yourselves if Denver don't do anything in the playoffs?

Denver has done great this season- I just don't get why everything they do and achieve is fantastic, but everything we do and achieve somehow doesn't count. We're looking at 50 wins plus despite significant injuries to Amar'e, Felton and Sheed, injuries to Melo and Tyson and Kurt and Camby. If someone had said before preseason we'd have all those injuries, no one would have predicted we'd win over 50 games.

smackeddog wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

So you're both already trying to cover yourselves if Denver don't do anything in the playoffs?

Denver has done great this season- I just don't get why everything they do and achieve is fantastic, but everything we do and achieve somehow doesn't count. We're looking at 50 wins plus despite significant injuries to Amar'e, Felton and Sheed, injuries to Melo and Tyson and Kurt and Camby. If someone had said before preseason we'd have all those injuries, no one would have predicted we'd win over 50 games.

it's rare in a season that is too long by at least 12 games that you'll find a team that is not going to suffer injuries. it just so happens that the knicks are more injury-prone because they were forced to acquire very old players and cheap contracts.

injuries can't be used as an excuse.

when one team acquires a marquee player by trade and not through free agency they are forced to go into win-now mode at the expense of trading away valuable assets that could be developed were the team [edit : NOT] forced into win-now mode.

the fact that the knicks are nowhere near winning now translates to disappointment. the fact that denver is a better team already furthers the disappointment.

now if you decide to poo-poo the nuggets' regular-season record then the same should be said of the knicks record too.

so far as covering myself i don't know what you mean. right now the nuggets have exceeded my expectations and the knicks have not.

if the nuggets fail to secure home court then that's on them. the only teams that they may have trouble against are the two teams ahead of them.

meanwhile the knicks are showing they have a pulse. i have to hand it to smith, he's turned it around and looks great out there. but this ain't the playoffs. he is guilty until proven innocent until he shows he can do stuff in the playoffs. meanwhile it's still supposedly melo's team and i still foresee a futile masturbatory exercise on his part. it's hard for a leopard to change his spots especially when teams invite him to indulge in his favorite activity. i wish woodson would get on his case and demand he chuck less and facilitate more.

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

So you're both already trying to cover yourselves if Denver don't do anything in the playoffs?

Denver has done great this season- I just don't get why everything they do and achieve is fantastic, but everything we do and achieve somehow doesn't count. We're looking at 50 wins plus despite significant injuries to Amar'e, Felton and Sheed, injuries to Melo and Tyson and Kurt and Camby. If someone had said before preseason we'd have all those injuries, no one would have predicted we'd win over 50 games.

it's rare in a season that is too long by at least 12 games that you'll find a team that is not going to suffer injuries. it just so happens that the knicks are more injury-prone because they were forced to acquire very old players and cheap contracts.

injuries can't be used as an excuse.

when one team acquires a marquee player by trade and not through free agency they are forced to go into win-now mode at the expense of trading away valuable assets that could be developed were the team forced into win-now mode.

the fact that the knicks are nowhere near winning now translates to disappointment. the fact that denver is a better team already furthers the disappointment.

now if you decide to poo-poo the nuggets' regular-season record then the same should be said of the knicks record too.

so far as covering myself i don't know what you mean. right now the nuggets have exceeded my expectations and the knicks have not.

if the nuggets fail to secure home court then that's on them. the only teams that they may have trouble against are the two teams ahead of them.

meanwhile the knicks are showing they have a pulse. i have to hand it to smith, he's turned it around and looks great out there. but this ain't the playoffs. he is guilty until proven innocent until he shows he can do stuff in the playoffs. meanwhile it's still supposedly melo's team and i still foresee a futile masturbatory exercise on his part. it's hard for a leopard to change his spots especially when teams invite him to indulge in his favorite activity. i wish woodson would get on his case and demand he chuck less and facilitate more.

So far neither team has made it out of the first round, no matter what theyhave done in the regular season.

But i will say in contrast to that statement, if you're gonna praise Denver for thewir regular season success, praise others too.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:West is kinda overrated to me. I see the two giants at the top and Denver is good but everyone else is blah to me. Even Denver is a step below the spurs and Thunder. Jmo

You just have to look at the records in matchups. The west wins over 60% of the games against the east.

That's not very conclusive in regards to what I said. I would have to look at each team's record against the east. What if the top teams are way above .500 and the others avg or below.

knickscity wrote:All this West better than the east is just regular season nonsense.

There are only 3 contenders and the rest are mere contestants, and the east has the best one out of the three, whom just so happen to have a better west record against than the West do themselves.

how did the nuggets do against the spurs and the thunder this season?

how have the knicks fared against the heat this season?

nothing behind the question, i just think the nuggets have a better shot at beating the thunder and the spurs in a series tat the knicks have against the heat.

do you feel the same way?

dk7th wrote:

knickscity wrote:All this West better than the east is just regular season nonsense.

There are only 3 contenders and the rest are mere contestants, and the east has the best one out of the three, whom just so happen to have a better west record against than the West do themselves.

how did the nuggets do against the spurs and the thunder this season?

how have the knicks fared against the heat this season?

nothing behind the question, i just think the nuggets have a better shot at beating the thunder and the spurs in a series tat the knicks have against the heat.

do you feel the same way?

I think Denver's play is better suited for regular season play, but i fully expect them to be dismantled in the playoffs, by whomever the play in the first round.

The Miami Heat is the best team in basketball, losing to them is what every team would face, so there nothing to gauge from that.

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:Nuggets 50-24....1 of only 4 teams in the league with 50

Looking forward to you being just as impressed when the Knicks hit 50 wins. Though I expect you'll come up with some sort of excuse as to why it doesn't actually count.

nix play in a weaker EC and had a very easy schedule relative to denver's this season. even if they finish with the same record the nuggets will be universally considered the better team and deservedly so.

this should not be too hard to accept.

the only thing certain stubborn nix fans will be able to hang their beanies on is if the nuggets don't go further than the knicks in the playoffs.

I think there's about a 3 to 1 exchange rate - 1 playoff series win in the west = about 3 in the east.

this is an excellent way to look at it.

So you're both already trying to cover yourselves if Denver don't do anything in the playoffs?

Denver has done great this season- I just don't get why everything they do and achieve is fantastic, but everything we do and achieve somehow doesn't count. We're looking at 50 wins plus despite significant injuries to Amar'e, Felton and Sheed, injuries to Melo and Tyson and Kurt and Camby. If someone had said before preseason we'd have all those injuries, no one would have predicted we'd win over 50 games.

it's rare in a season that is too long by at least 12 games that you'll find a team that is not going to suffer injuries. it just so happens that the knicks are more injury-prone because they were forced to acquire very old players and cheap contracts.

injuries can't be used as an excuse.

when one team acquires a marquee player by trade and not through free agency they are forced to go into win-now mode at the expense of trading away valuable assets that could be developed were the team [edit : NOT] forced into win-now mode.

the fact that the knicks are nowhere near winning now translates to disappointment. the fact that denver is a better team already furthers the disappointment.

now if you decide to poo-poo the nuggets' regular-season record then the same should be said of the knicks record too.

so far as covering myself i don't know what you mean. right now the nuggets have exceeded my expectations and the knicks have not.

if the nuggets fail to secure home court then that's on them. the only teams that they may have trouble against are the two teams ahead of them.

meanwhile the knicks are showing they have a pulse. i have to hand it to smith, he's turned it around and looks great out there. but this ain't the playoffs. he is guilty until proven innocent until he shows he can do stuff in the playoffs. meanwhile it's still supposedly melo's team and i still foresee a futile masturbatory exercise on his part. it's hard for a leopard to change his spots especially when teams invite him to indulge in his favorite activity. i wish woodson would get on his case and demand he chuck less and facilitate more.

Injuries are not an 'excuse' they are a fact- if you honestly believe that the Thunder should have the same record even if Durant or Westbrook got injured for a significant chunk of time, or that Miami wold have the same record without Lebron or wade for half the season, or that Chicago wouldn't be better with Rose, then you are high!