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Bonn1997
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by TMS:
for 1 last time & just to clear up once & for all:
CASHMAN'S NOTABLE MOVES AS YANKEES' GM '98-'08:
Trades:
2/6/1998 traded Brian Buchanan, Christian Guzman, Eric Milton, Danny Mota and cash for Chuck Knoblauch - GOOD TRADE
2/1/1999 traded Mike Lowell for Mark Johnson, Todd Noel and Ed Yarnall - BAD TRADE
2/18/1999 traded Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd and David Wells for Roger Clemens - EXCELLENT TRADE
12/22/1999 traded Hideki Irabu for Jake Westbrook and 2 PTBNL: Ted Lilly and Christian Parker - EXCELLENT TRADE
6/20/2000 traded Jim Leyritz for Jose Vizcaino and cash - GOOD TRADE
6/29/2000 traded Ricky Ledee, Jake Westbrook, and Zach Day for David Justice - EXCELLENT TRADE
7/12/2000 traded Ed Yarnall, Drew Henson, Jackson Melian and Brian Reith for Mike Frank and Denny Neagle - WASH
7/21/2000 traded Ben Ford and Oswaldo Mairena for Glenallen Hill - GOOD TRADE
8/7/2000 traded Chris Spurling for Luis Sojo - GOOD TRADE
3/21/2001 traded Wily Mo Pena for Drew Henson and Michael Coleman - BAD TRADE
3/30/2001 traded Craig Dingman for PTBNL: Jorge de Paula - GOOD TRADE
6/13/2001 traded Damaso Marte for Enrique Wilson - BAD TRADE
6/23/2001 traded D'Angelo Jimenez for Jay Witasick - BAD TRADE
7/1/2001 traded Ricardo Aramboles for Mark Wohlers - WASH
7/4/2001 traded Brian Boehringer for Bobby Estalella and Joe Smith - GOOD TRADE
7/30/2001 traded Brett Jodie and Darren Blakely for Sterling Hitchcock - GOOD TRADE
8/31/2001 traded 2 PTBNL: Rosman Garcia and Randy Flores for Randy Velarde - WASH
12/7/2001 traded David Justice for Robin Ventura - GOOD TRADE
12/13/2001 traded Jay Witasick for John Vander Wal - WASH
7/1/2002 traded Scott Wiggins for Raul Mondesi - GOOD TRADE
7/5/2002 traded Ted Lilly, Jason Arnold and John Ford Griffin for Jeff Weaver - BAD TRADE
1/15/2003 traded Orlando Hernandez for Antonio Osuna and Delvis Lantigua - BAD TRADE
3/19/2003 traded Rondell White for Bubba Trammell, Mark Phillips and cash - WASH
6/6/2003 traded Marcus Thames for Ruben Sierra - GOOD TRADE
6/25/2003 traded Cash for Karim Garcia - GOOD TRADE
6/25/2003 traded PTBNL for Dan Miceli - GOOD TRADE
7/16/2003 traded Jason Anderson, Ryan Bicondoa and Anderson Garcia for Armando Benitez - BAD TRADE
7/22/2003 traded PTBNL for Jesse Orosco - GOOD TRADE
7/29/2003 traded Raul Mondesi and cash for David Dellucci, Bret Prinz and John Prowl - GOOD TRADE
7/31/2003 traded PTBNL for Gabe White - GOOD TRADE
7/31/2003 traded Brandon Claussen, Charlie Manning and cash for Aaron Boone - GOOD TRADE
7/31/2003 traded Robin Ventura for Bubba Crosby and Scott Proctor - GOOD TRADE
8/6/2003 traded Armando Benitez for Jeff Nelson - GOOD TRADE
8/22/2003 traded Sterling Hitchcock for Justin Pope and Ben Julianel - BAD TRADE
8/31/2003 traded Jesse Orosco for PTBNL: Juan Padilla - WASH
12/13/2003 traded Jeff Weaver, Brandon Weeden, Yhency Brazoban and cash for Kevin Brown - WASH
12/16/2003 traded Nick Johnson, Juan Rivera and Randy Choate for Javier Vazquez - BAD TRADE
12/18/2003 traded Chris Hammond and cash for Eduardo Sierra and J.T. Stotts - BAD TRADE
2/5/2004 traded Jose Garcia for Mike Lamb - GOOD TRADE
2/16/2004 traded Alfonso Soriano and a PTBNL: Joaquin Arias for Alex Rodriguez and cash - EXCELLENT TRADE
3/25/2004 traded Mike Lamb for Juan DeLeon - BAD TRADE
5/15/2004 traded Brian Myrow for Tanyon Sturtze - GOOD TRADE
6/18/2004 traded Gabe White for Charlie Manning and cash - WASH
7/31/2004 traded Jose Contreras and cash for Esteban Loaiza - BAD TRADE
12/3/2004 traded Felix Heredia for Mike Stanton - GOOD TRADE
12/3/2004 traded Kenny Lofton for Felix Rodriguez - WASH
1/11/2005 traded Javier Vazquez, Brad Halsey, Dioner Navarro and cash for Randy Johnson - GOOD TRADE
3/29/2005 traded Bret Prinz for Wil Nieves - WASH
7/2/2005 traded Paul Quantrill for Darrell May, Tim Redding and cash - WASH
7/16/2005 traded PTBNL for Al Leiter - GOOD TRADE
7/28/2005 traded Ramon Ramirez and Eduardo Sierra for Shawn Chacon - GOOD TRADE
8/27/2005 traded Justin Berg for Matt Lawton - WASH
11/16/2005 traded Ben Julianel for Ron Villone - GOOD TRADE
12/8/2005 traded Tony Womack and cash for Kevin Howard and Benjamin Himes - WASH
5/24/2006 traded Cash for Nick Green - WASH
7/26/2006 traded Hector Made for Sal Fasano - GOOD TRADE
7/30/2006 traded C.J. Henry, Matt Smith, Jesus Sanchez and Carlos Monastrios for Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle - EXCELLENT TRADE
7/31/2006 traded Shawn Chacon for Craig Wilson - WASH
11/10/2006 traded Gary Sheffield for Anthony Claggett, Humberto Sanchez and Kevin Whelan - GOOD TRADE
11/12/2006 traded Jaret Wright and cash for Chris Britton - BAD TRADE
1/9/2007 traded Randy Johnson and cash for Luis Vizcaino, Ross Ohlendorf, Alberto Gonzalez and Steven Jackson - WASH
7/21/2007 traded Jeff Kenard for Jose Molina - GOOD TRADE
7/31/2007 traded Scott Proctor for Wilson Betemit - WASH
12/4/2007 traded Tyler Clippard for Jonathan Albaladejo - GOOD TRADE
FA Signings:
3/23/1998 signed Orlando Hernandez for 4 years/ $6.6M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
9/29/1998 signed Alfonso Soriano for 5 years/ $3.15M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
11/29/1999 signed Mike Stanton for 4 years/ $9.4M (GOOD SIGNING)
12/6/1999 signed David Cone for 1 year/ $9.5M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
1/28/2000 signed Andy Pettitte (extension) to 3 years/ $25.5M (GOOD SIGNING)
5/5/2000 signed Chien-Ming Wang to $1.9M Signing Bonus (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
8/3/2000 signed Roger Clemens (extension) to 2 years/ $30.9M (GOOD SIGNING)
8/7/2000 signed Jose Canseco off Waivers (WASH)
11/30/2000 signed Mike Mussina for 6 years/$88.5M (GOOD SIGNING)
1/5/2001 signed Robinson Cano as an Amateur Free Agent (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
2/11/2001 signed Mariano Rivera (extension) to 4 years/ $39.99M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
2/10/2001 signed Derek Jeter (extension) to 10 years/ $189M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
11/13/2001 signed Melky Cabrera as an Amateur Free Agent (GOOD SIGNING)
12/7/2001 signed Steve Karsay for 4 years/ $22.25M (BAD SIGNING)
12/13/2001 signed Jason Giambi for 7 years/ $120M (WASH)
12/17/2001 signed Rondell White for 2 years/ $10M (BAD SIGNING)
12/18/2001 signed Sterling Hitchcock for 2 years/ $11M (WASH)
1/17/2002 signed David Wells for 2 years/ $5.5M (GOOD SIGNING)
1/20/2002 signed Jorge Posada (extension) to 4 years/ $52.4M (GOOD SIGNING)
12/6/2002 signed Robin Ventura for 2 years/ $13.5M (WASH)
12/19/2002 signed Hideki Matsui for 3 years/ $21M (EXCELLENT SIGNING)
12/30/2002 signed Roger Clemens (Re-signed) to 1 year/ $10.1M (GOOD SIGNING)
2/4/2003 signed Jon Lieber for 2 years/ $3.5M (GOOD SIGNING)
2/6/2003 signed Jose Contreras for 4 years/ $32M (BAD SIGNING)
12/16/2003 signed Tom Gordon for 2 years/ $7.25M (GOOD SIGNING)
12/19/2003 signed Gary Sheffield for 3 years/ $39M (GOOD SIGNING)
1/6/2004 signed Kenny Lofton for 2 years/ $6.2M (WASH)
3/12/2004 signed Orlando Hernandez for 1 year/ $500K (GOOD SIGNING)
12/20/2004 signed Carl Pavano for 4 years/ $39.95 (BAD SIGNING)
12/20/2004 signed Tony Womack for 1 year/ $2M (WASH)
12/28/2004 signed Jaret Wright for 3 years/ $20M (BAD SIGNING)
12/5/2005 signed Kyle Farnsworth for 3 years/ $17M (BAD SIGNING)
1/3/2006 signed Johnny Damon for 4 years/ $52M (GOOD SIGNING)
1/4/2006 signed Octavio Dotel for 1 year/ $2M (WASH)
2/10/2006 signed Darrell Rasner off Waivers (GOOD SIGNING)
5/?/2006 signed Brian Bruney off Waivers (GOOD SIGNING)
11/27/2006 signed Mike Mussina (Re-signed) to 2 years/ $23M (WASH)
12/8/2006 signed Andy Pettitte for 1 year/ $16M (WASH)
12/19/2006 signed Kei Igawa for 5 years/ $20M (BAD SIGNING)
1/8/2007 signed Doug Mientkiewicz for 1 year/ $1.5M (WASH)
5/6/2007 signed Roger Clemens for 1 year/Pro-rated from 6/9/07 for $17.4M (BAD SIGNING)
11/13/2007 signed Jorge Posada (Re-signed) to 4 years/ $52.4M (?)
11/19/2007 signed Mariano Rivera (Re-signed) to 3 years/ $45M (GOOD SIGNING)
12/12/2007 signed Andy Pettitte (Re-signed) to 1 year/ $16M (WASH)
12/13/2007 signed Alex Rodriguez (Re-signed) to 10 years/ $275M (?)
2/7/2008 signed Robinson Cano (extension) to 4 years/ $30M (GOOD SIGNING)
Draft Picks:
1998 drafted Mark Prior 1st rd. supplemental (did not sign)
1998 drafted Randy Keisler 2nd rd.
1998 drafted Drew Henson 3rd rd.
1998 drafted Nook Logan 40th rd.
2001 drafted Shelley Duncan 2nd rd.
2001 drafted Chase Wright 3rd rd.
2001 drafted Philip Humber (Did not sign) 29th rd.
2003 drafted Tyler Clippard 9th rd.
2003 drafted Jeff Karstens 19th rd.
2004 drafted Philip Hughes 23rd rd. Compensatory (Andy Pettitte)
2005 drafted Austin Jackson 8th rd.
2006 drafted Ian Kennedy 1st rd. Compensatory (Tom Gordon)
2006 drafted Joba Chamberlain 1st rd. Supplemental (Tom Gordon)
You guys already know the moves he made this past offseason in acquiring Swisher, CC, AJB, Pettitte, Berroa & Ramiro Pena looks to be a nice young SS prospect for us to groom for the future.
As you can see, he's made his fair share of good moves & bad moves, & other moves that were a comparable wash, but for the most part the good moves outweigh the bad, & there's absolutely no denying the results achieved in terms of championships & division titles & overall games won during his tenure, which is unmatched by any other GM in baseball... the only young players he's traded away that have amounted to much in the majors that he didn't get good value in return for has been Mike Lowell & Ted Lilly... there have been other young players he's traded away like Juan Rivera, Nick Johnson, Dioner Navarro, Marcus Thames & Christian Guzman who have become quality players in the majors, but he got back good players in every 1 of those deals that helped this team... he's also signed a good amount of quality young talent for our minor leagues like Soriano, Wang & Cano, as well as drafted some very good young talent like Hughes, Kennedy, Joba & Austin Jackson while completely rebuilding the farm system from 1 of the worst in baseball to 1 of the best.
so yeah, take ur digs at Cashman, call him a bad GM or below average GM or whatever else u wanna call him, but there's really no arguing w/the facts here, & i still have yet to hear anyone tell me who would have done such a better job than he has over the time he's been here. A list of pleasant trades doesn't make a an outstanding GM. (Just saw this list again.) There doesn't seem to be any philosophy underlying these moves other than "If we get big number producing hitters, we can outscore everyone." All I see here is a GM who put about 80% of his mental energy into big name hitters and until this last off-season, saved the remaining 20% for pitching. That's probably part of why we were in the desperate situation we were in for pitching this off-season and simply had to gamble on the guys we gambled on.
those are just about ALL of the moves he's made as a GM since he took over, most of which have panned out nicely for the Yankees' franchise! i didn't just pick & choose some examples to suit my point like you like to do... u telling me i don't understand what a GM does when u can't even point out more than a handful of high profile moves you disagreed with over the past few years that you heard about on Sportscenter is a joke... watch a few more decades of baseball before u try & pretend like you can drop some knowledge on this topic... ur just making urself look more foolish with every post you make... take my advice & cut your losses.
[Edited by - TMS on 05-11-2009 5:48 PM] I could address this but first please address my earlier point. What philosophy (if any!) and strategies underly Cashman's moves? Again, to me it looks like unending re-tooling with about 80% of the focus being on offense. The philosophy is, "Occasionally I'll get a pitcher but basically to me, a winning team is one with big name hitters who produce more runs than the opponents produce." A strategic approach I see is, "I don't care if a player is in or past his prime or if the contract I give him will extend well past his prime." I'll give you another chance to correct the record but to this point, you seem to think that the philosophy doesn't matter so long as you can produce a long list of trades and say that more than 50% of them looked good individually. [Edited by - bonn1997 on 05-12-2009 10:41 AM] |
5/12/2009 7:35 PM
