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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
![]() holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Great questions Holfresh. Scary years ahead for all of us. As to the "rigged" election, Trump was right about it being rigged, just not how it's so...Citizens United and the revolving door between Congress and K Street "rigged" our democracy long ago. When a shrewd marketer can "win" the electoral vote using slander, innuendo, overt racism, mysogyny, xenophobia, etc...we have moved into the danger zone. Media failed to inform (not counting NYT obviously). Pollsters failed to measure accurately. Voters failed to turn out. |
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Again, why is this a "this or that" argument (false dilemma)? Can't we work on all of these things? The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? You're misguided if you think this election was about fixing corruption or polls or "draining the swamp". That's all BS for the masses that bought that tripe. The same people that have been in government are STILL in government but now they have even more power to screw the people. Please someone explain how things are better today for the people just cuz Trump is President? Trump is just a figurehead and the real power is still in the same hands. There has been no real change except now Big Business is in total control. Who backed the Republicans that have been in the House and the Senate??? The same Koch Brothers and other Big Business leaders. They could give a crap about "the people "! |
earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() nixluva wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Nixluva - You don't know and yet you speak with certainty. If you want to give up before he even gets in office that is on you. I wouldn't have given up had Hillary won. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
![]() earthmansurfer wrote:nixluva wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Reagan was governor of California. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
![]() holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:fishmike wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Yea? Think those things bolded were better under Bush? Wow. Good post.nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? What has happened to our debt? America, if it was a company (and ironically it almost is), would be bankrupt right now. We are riding a wave of faith and money printing. Last I heard, many more people are working PT jobs because they couldn't get FT jobs. And companies love this as then they don't have to pay benefits for FT, but just looking at unemployed doesn't tell the whole story. Maybe I misunderstood you (and different issues, Bush and Obama as people and then just the economic aspects while president) but what is the false narrative? The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
![]() DrAlphaeus wrote:Plus I don't think Reagan had a history of corruption as a private citizen anywhere near Trump.earthmansurfer wrote:nixluva wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? |
DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
![]() Welpee wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Plus I don't think Reagan had a history of corruption as a private citizen anywhere near Trump.earthmansurfer wrote:nixluva wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? From Wikpedia via Google: 5 Presidents had never been elected to public office before becoming President: Zachary Taylor, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and president-elect Donald Trump. However, Trump is the only individual to be elected president without any prior political or military experience. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:fishmike wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Yea? Think those things bolded were better under Bush? Wow. Good post.nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Your description of the economy is false..We were heading into the deepest recessions since the depression..Look it up...The debt is because of the recession...Obama has actually reduced the deficit he walked into, look that up too... |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:fishmike wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Yea? Think those things bolded were better under Bush? Wow. Good post.nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:So, what of these "polls". It was brought up how Brexit was wrong and that our polls were oversampled. Is it another coincidence or is there something to it? Bill Clinton and Obama left their Republican replacements with a better economy than the ones they inherited. There is no question that the economy does better under Democrat Presidencies. Will Trump and the Republicans REPEAT the mistakes of George Bush? Senator Mitch McConnell is already talking about Corporate Tax Cuts and Deregulation. Those are the things the Republicans ALWAYS do when in power and they wreck the economy. Not to mention shipping jobs overseas. Once again America hasn't learned. I want Trump Supporters to actually make the case for the Trump Policy Plan and how it's going to work. Most Economists blasted his plan and the numbers don't add up. This is par for the course with Republican Economic Plans. George H.W. Bush called Reagan's plan Voodoo Economics and he was right. Yet the Republicans keep trotting out the same Economic prescriptions that don't work. Also i'd remind everyone that the Congress is the SAME and not some new group of people with a new plan and no corruption. They are all backed by Big Business as they've always been. All of Trump's buddies. |
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() And Trump didn't even need full support from his own party. America has spoken!
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