BlueKnickers wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:No way we do what we did without having inner knowledge that Mitch is coming back.

With the draft

Shamet might be gone unless he signs another vet min deal

Clarkson might be back on a vet min

Jose might be back on his po

So loosing Shamet hurts, but nickel is a taller version . And Shamet still might come back if we blow it with Mitch but to me Shamet has always been a good bench player … a Stark’s like player who is a + player on both ends .

Shamet’s player profile is undervalued in today’s nba but also a necessity bench piece .

Huk will be back as a min contract player

So if we sign

Mitch
Clarkson
Jose
Shamet

Do we still have spots to fill?

you shouldn't expect Clarkson to be back

Salary cap issues aside, I think we had too much guard heavy bench last year, 4 guards plus Mitch. We need some additional length/height in the bench rotation, so I'm hoping/expecting that one of Deuce/Shamet/Clarkson gets replaced by Mo or some other SF/PF 6'8" or taller.

For that matter, I wouldn't complain if we upgraded Avocado while we're at it.

Panos wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:No way we do what we did without having inner knowledge that Mitch is coming back.

With the draft

Shamet might be gone unless he signs another vet min deal

Clarkson might be back on a vet min

Jose might be back on his po

So loosing Shamet hurts, but nickel is a taller version . And Shamet still might come back if we blow it with Mitch but to me Shamet has always been a good bench player … a Stark’s like player who is a + player on both ends .

Shamet’s player profile is undervalued in today’s nba but also a necessity bench piece .

Huk will be back as a min contract player

So if we sign

Mitch
Clarkson
Jose
Shamet

Do we still have spots to fill?

you shouldn't expect Clarkson to be back

Salary cap issues aside, I think we had too much guard heavy bench last year, 4 guards plus Mitch. We need some additional length/height in the bench rotation, so I'm hoping/expecting that one of Deuce/Shamet/Clarkson gets replaced by Mo or some other SF/PF 6'8" or taller.

For that matter, I wouldn't complain if we upgraded Avocado while we're at it.

To answer your question, if all current contracts are not traded, we have 8 slots to fill by my count

I expect both Shamet and Clarkson to be gone

Big factor for all swing players is Mo is going to get minutes and this may skew the aggregated balance of minutes towards more frontcourt minutes as a whole

The Kayil pick now intrigues me, because he brings more size to our backcourt

As does McCullar at the same height

Yes, I'd trade Jose in a heartbeat, but they seem to be working on some kind of accommodation for him which would have to mean a lower salary next season, perhaps for more years.

In general, our backcourt should be getting bigger with a priority on ball handling and defense

nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

Playoff minutes played
KP - 721
Mitch - 1,034

I like dadiet. He needs a defined role to get some rhythm.

Rookie wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

Playoff minutes played
KP - 721
Mitch - 1,034

only thing that proves is Knicks have had long playoff runs. even adding that my point was KP has played alot more games and minutes.

nycericanguy wrote:

Rookie wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

Playoff minutes played
KP - 721
Mitch - 1,034

only thing that proves is Knicks have had long playoff runs. even adding that my point was KP has played alot more games and minutes.

Does your minutes played total account for KP being in the league 3 years longer than Mitch?. KP was drafted in 2015, Mitch in 2018. In terms of durability, Mitch is also 3 years younger and doesn’t have an ailment that causes fatigue limiting availability. It’s not just injuries, KP has a medical condition. There’s no guarantee it doesn’t flare up in the post season, just ask Boston about KP’s availability in the playoffs

We know if we don’t resign Mitch who is the only guy we can sign to what ever contract …

We won’t have any money to sign a back up 5 other then a vet min contract .

So we are definitely signing Mitch esp if we want another chip.

martin wrote:Best writers don’t usually offer this stark an opinion

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I just don’t see this why would we do what we did in the draft to just see him walk? That would give our draft grade a F

The only thing other than mitch would be to trade McBride for a really good back up defensive stud 5. Like a Kessler

fitzfarm wrote:

martin wrote:Best writers don’t usually offer this stark an opinion

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I just don’t see this why would we do what we did in the draft to just see him walk? That would give our draft grade a F

The only thing other than mitch would be to trade McBride for a really good back up defensive stud 5. Like a Kessler

Robinson’s agent wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t explore Mith’s FA value. Our FO wouldn’t be doing right by him if they didn't respect that. Just a bunch of noise from Bondy who is a scrub of a reporter trying to get clicks