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The really short off season for knicks! How to run it back?
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Panos
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6/25/2026  3:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2026  3:53 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:No way we do what we did without having inner knowledge that Mitch is coming back.

With the draft

Shamet might be gone unless he signs another vet min deal

Clarkson might be back on a vet min

Jose might be back on his po

So loosing Shamet hurts, but nickel is a taller version . And Shamet still might come back if we blow it with Mitch but to me Shamet has always been a good bench player … a Stark’s like player who is a + player on both ends .

Shamet’s player profile is undervalued in today’s nba but also a necessity bench piece .


Huk will be back as a min contract player

So if we sign

Mitch
Clarkson
Jose
Shamet

Do we still have spots to fill?

you shouldn't expect Clarkson to be back

Salary cap issues aside, I think we had too much guard heavy bench last year, 4 guards plus Mitch. We need some additional length/height in the bench rotation, so I'm hoping/expecting that one of Deuce/Shamet/Clarkson gets replaced by Mo or some other SF/PF 6'8" or taller.

For that matter, I wouldn't complain if we upgraded Avocado while we're at it.

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6/25/2026  4:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2026  4:04 PM
Panos wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:No way we do what we did without having inner knowledge that Mitch is coming back.

With the draft

Shamet might be gone unless he signs another vet min deal

Clarkson might be back on a vet min

Jose might be back on his po

So loosing Shamet hurts, but nickel is a taller version . And Shamet still might come back if we blow it with Mitch but to me Shamet has always been a good bench player … a Stark’s like player who is a + player on both ends .

Shamet’s player profile is undervalued in today’s nba but also a necessity bench piece .


Huk will be back as a min contract player

So if we sign

Mitch
Clarkson
Jose
Shamet

Do we still have spots to fill?

you shouldn't expect Clarkson to be back

Salary cap issues aside, I think we had too much guard heavy bench last year, 4 guards plus Mitch. We need some additional length/height in the bench rotation, so I'm hoping/expecting that one of Deuce/Shamet/Clarkson gets replaced by Mo or some other SF/PF 6'8" or taller.

For that matter, I wouldn't complain if we upgraded Avocado while we're at it.

To answer your question, if all current contracts are not traded, we have 8 slots to fill by my count

I expect both Shamet and Clarkson to be gone

Big factor for all swing players is Mo is going to get minutes and this may skew the aggregated balance of minutes towards more frontcourt minutes as a whole

The Kayil pick now intrigues me, because he brings more size to our backcourt

As does McCullar at the same height

Yes, I'd trade Jose in a heartbeat, but they seem to be working on some kind of accommodation for him which would have to mean a lower salary next season, perhaps for more years.

In general, our backcourt should be getting bigger with a priority on ball handling and defense

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6/25/2026  4:15 PM
completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?
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6/25/2026  4:30 PM
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

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6/25/2026  4:35 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

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6/25/2026  4:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2026  4:42 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

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6/25/2026  4:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2026  4:47 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

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6/25/2026  4:55 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

Playoff minutes played
KP - 721
Mitch - 1,034

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6/25/2026  5:05 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
martin wrote:Feel like even if players aren't playing but the Knicks keep them, they know something we do not. Deuce a prime example of these same type of comments and I think I've heard different versions of this for McCullar, Mo and maybe some of the other young players too. We shall see how they pan out.

This echoes my sentiment about this draft and maintaining our roster due to the growth potential we still have inside our current roster.

These are players I think we may see continued evolvement from next season:

Brunson
KAT
OG
Mo
Huk
Kolek
McCullar
Dadiet


That's a pretty long list of upside if you stick with the core and roll with the youngbloods

In betweeners may be:

Hart - Becomes more committed and consistent shooter
Bridges - Becomes more aggressive during regular season
Deuce - Can he bring the regular season production into the playoffs?
Sochan - can he benefit from the change of scenery and increase his contributions

Players who are probably known quantities without additional upside if they return:

Mitch - Unless he can shoot a FT, we know what he brings
Jose - Energy, hustle, occasional hot streaks, not likely to learn how to orchestrate
Shamet - not that he needs to improve, but I think he is a finished product by now
Clarkson - Not expecting him to be back, but he's also a known quantity though he did adjust defensively mid-season

I don't even know if Dillon Jones or Trey Jemison will be around, but they also could improve FWIW

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6/25/2026  5:12 PM
^^^^^

I like dadiet. He needs a defined role to get some rhythm.

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6/25/2026  5:29 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:completely forgot about KP, if he's a FA and you can give him the Mitch role... 15mpg, no B2B's... and we know he had an interest in coming back... Perhaps he can be had for $6m per year?

We can't afford him

I dont think KP will command a big contract at this point.

We can't afford to rely on him then. He's a lock to spend the majority of any season on IRL

Let Nickel take the Korver spot in rotation to give us that long ball option KP gives you

I don't trust KP's future ability to provide rim protection even at his height

I mean I'm not sure its much different than relying on Mitch? You aren't really "relying" on a guy that plays 15mpg and sits on B2B's... that guy is more of a luxury at that point.

Last 3 seasons
Games played
KP - 131
Mitch - 108

Minutes played
KP - 3,665
Mitch - 2,234

We all want Mitch back but with limited options we gotta think outside the box.

Well, Mitch is our beef in the middle. KP does not replace that.

KP is a stretch big which is not a pressing need with our shooters and KAT, the best shooting C in the league.

The really short off season for knicks! How to run it back?

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