EwingsGlass wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:No way do I want to trade so much for Mitchell when we just got Brunson for a contract. We are much improved as is. We were good two years ago and now we have Brunson and rose back. We have the depth to withstand injury all year. We have multi faceted line ups
We have immense trade power if needed but we can also keep the picks and keep moving them along to keep the franchise strong long term
You give up your downside protection as well for 5-6 years
It’s so NOT worth it
Forget all the assets too. We don’t need Mitchell! We have Brunson?????

You could run the same analysis of Randle and Fournier for Westbrook and a 2027 pick from LAL and I might be on board without giving up so much youth. I think that Obi lines up better next to Brunson anyway. I'd probably still want to give up some youth for a 3&D SF, but I don't really want IQ and Grimes hanging out in the East.

Brunson/Rose
IQ/McBride
Barrett/Grimes
Toppin/Reddish
Robinson/Hart

I think you have room for addition by subtraction here even if you just cut Westbrook.

That starting lineup would be concerning. Especially if IQ and RJ have the type of first halves they had last year. Adding Obi who can't shoot and is a terrible pairing with Mitch, who essentially only scores in the same manner, would be a mistake. Imho. Not to mention that some are forgetting that it will be tough for Brunson to repeat what he did last year on a larger sample size and with many more expectations. Not to mention, in a much bigger market.

Also do not see any chance that Rose is okay with presenting the Knick fans with that lineup.
DM is exactly what Rose wants the next step to be. A step above fielding a bunch of hopefuls and unproven. Which is what we have fielded since the end of the Melo era.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:No way do I want to trade so much for Mitchell when we just got Brunson for a contract. We are much improved as is. We were good two years ago and now we have Brunson and rose back. We have the depth to withstand injury all year. We have multi faceted line ups
We have immense trade power if needed but we can also keep the picks and keep moving them along to keep the franchise strong long term
You give up your downside protection as well for 5-6 years
It’s so NOT worth it
Forget all the assets too. We don’t need Mitchell! We have Brunson?????

You could run the same analysis of Randle and Fournier for Westbrook and a 2027 pick from LAL and I might be on board without giving up so much youth. I think that Obi lines up better next to Brunson anyway. I'd probably still want to give up some youth for a 3&D SF, but I don't really want IQ and Grimes hanging out in the East.

Brunson/Rose
IQ/McBride
Barrett/Grimes
Toppin/Reddish
Robinson/Hart

I think you have room for addition by subtraction here even if you just cut Westbrook.

That starting lineup would be concerning. Especially if IQ and RJ have the type of first halves they had last year. Adding Obi who can't shoot and is a terrible pairing with Mitch, who essentially only scores in the same manner, would be a mistake. Imho. Not to mention that some are forgetting that it will be tough for Brunson to repeat what he did last year on a larger sample size and with many more expectations. Not to mention, in a much bigger market.

Also do not see any chance that Rose is okay with presenting the Knick fans with that lineup.
DM is exactly what Rose wants the next step to be. A step above fielding a bunch of hopefuls and unproven. Which is what we have fielded since the end of the Melo era.

Would love to hear your opinion of the Knicks lineup with Randle and Fournier still in it. I don’t think the flaws in the Knicks lineup are solved by Randle or Fournier. The Knicks problems are most likely to be solved by ball movement.

blkexec wrote:If I read between the lines sounds like after the Donovan trade, they will trade some combination of Randle a player for Westbrook.

So move IQ out of the starting lineup and replace with Spida.

JB / Rose
Spida / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Obi / Cam
Mitch

Looks great, but how we getting Mitchell without giving up any of RJ, IQ, Obi, Grimes, or Cam?

blkexec wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

blkexec wrote:If I read between the lines sounds like after the Donovan trade, they will trade some combination of Randle a player for Westbrook.

So move IQ out of the starting lineup and replace with Spida.

JB / Rose
Spida / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Obi / Cam
Mitch

Looks great, but how we getting Mitchell without giving up any of RJ, IQ, Obi, Grimes, or Cam?

Yeah sorry………Grimes and Cam will be gone. Not sure if the lakers take both Randle and EF for Westbrook

I would like to hold onto IQ and Obi buy giving them more picks maybe 6 if you include some second round picks?

Please, no Westbrook. Where has it worked?

BigDaddyG wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:WTF you want that turd Frank back for?

Some say turd, others might see a key contributor in a Western Conference Finals team. A man who single handedly beat 'Merica in international play. A gamer who never got the opportunity from the coaches to flourish while he was here. The stars are aligning.

A guy who is more interested in modeling than improving his game is a gamer? You Frank stans are mentally ill.

SergioNYK wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:WTF you want that turd Frank back for?

Some say turd, others might see a key contributor in a Western Conference Finals team. A man who single handedly beat 'Merica in international play. A gamer who never got the opportunity from the coaches to flourish while he was here. The stars are aligning.

A guy who is more interested in modeling than improving his game is a gamer? You Frank stans are mentally ill.

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

blkexec wrote:If I read between the lines sounds like after the Donovan trade, they will trade some combination of Randle a player for Westbrook.

So move IQ out of the starting lineup and replace with Spida.

JB / Rose
Spida / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Obi / Cam
Mitch

Looks great, but how we getting Mitchell without giving up any of RJ, IQ, Obi, Grimes, or Cam?

Yeah sorry………Grimes and Cam will be gone. Not sure if the lakers take both Randle and EF for Westbrook

I would like to hold onto IQ and Obi buy giving them more picks maybe 6 if you include some second round picks?

Please, no Westbrook. Where has it worked?

Westbrook is an expiring contract and it’s probably our only legit shot at getting rid of Randle’s contract. Problem is the lakers know Randle very well and likely have no interest

EwingsGlass wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:No way do I want to trade so much for Mitchell when we just got Brunson for a contract. We are much improved as is. We were good two years ago and now we have Brunson and rose back. We have the depth to withstand injury all year. We have multi faceted line ups
We have immense trade power if needed but we can also keep the picks and keep moving them along to keep the franchise strong long term
You give up your downside protection as well for 5-6 years
It’s so NOT worth it
Forget all the assets too. We don’t need Mitchell! We have Brunson?????

You could run the same analysis of Randle and Fournier for Westbrook and a 2027 pick from LAL and I might be on board without giving up so much youth. I think that Obi lines up better next to Brunson anyway. I'd probably still want to give up some youth for a 3&D SF, but I don't really want IQ and Grimes hanging out in the East.

Brunson/Rose
IQ/McBride
Barrett/Grimes
Toppin/Reddish
Robinson/Hart

I think you have room for addition by subtraction here even if you just cut Westbrook.

That starting lineup would be concerning. Especially if IQ and RJ have the type of first halves they had last year. Adding Obi who can't shoot and is a terrible pairing with Mitch, who essentially only scores in the same manner, would be a mistake. Imho. Not to mention that some are forgetting that it will be tough for Brunson to repeat what he did last year on a larger sample size and with many more expectations. Not to mention, in a much bigger market.

Also do not see any chance that Rose is okay with presenting the Knick fans with that lineup.
DM is exactly what Rose wants the next step to be. A step above fielding a bunch of hopefuls and unproven. Which is what we have fielded since the end of the Melo era.

Would love to hear your opinion of the Knicks lineup with Randle and Fournier still in it. I don’t think the flaws in the Knicks lineup are solved by Randle or Fournier. The Knicks problems are most likely to be solved by ball movement.

Agree about EF in there. Stated on another thread what my optimum lineup would be:
DM, Brunson, RJ, Randle and Mitch with
IQ, Grimes, Cam, Hartenstein and Sims in the second unit. But understand it's a long shot.
Okay with trading Obi, Rose, Deuce, Keels, Roka, Cam and EF.
and picks. However, signs have pointed to Ainge wanting much more. As well as no interest in RJ.
Also, do not see them wanting EF. Maybe a third team does but still okay if EF has to stay. which means it is more probable that the starting line up looks more like this if we do get DM:
Brunson
DM
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Second:
IQ
EF
?(Hunt, Jeffries, Give back from Jazz?)
Hart
Sims

Which I am fine with and feel would do much better than the one you suggested we stick to.

Uptown wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

blkexec wrote:If I read between the lines sounds like after the Donovan trade, they will trade some combination of Randle a player for Westbrook.

So move IQ out of the starting lineup and replace with Spida.

JB / Rose
Spida / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Obi / Cam
Mitch

Looks great, but how we getting Mitchell without giving up any of RJ, IQ, Obi, Grimes, or Cam?

Yeah sorry………Grimes and Cam will be gone. Not sure if the lakers take both Randle and EF for Westbrook

I would like to hold onto IQ and Obi buy giving them more picks maybe 6 if you include some second round picks?

Please, no Westbrook. Where has it worked?

Westbrook is probably bought out in this scenario...

Yes they trade 1 to dump 2. Basically dumping Westbrick and Randle. This opens the PF for Obi. Hopefully with Miami out, Ainge is forced to accept what we give him, just to save face. I wouldn’t be surprised if DM has already scoped out a place to live.

Did you guys hear about DM caught a body at a Chris Brinkley run? DMitch told the number 1 pick, welcome to the NBA? We need this at the garden ASAP.

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