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martin
Posts: 75993 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
2/14/2023 8:50 AM
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martin
Posts: 75993 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
2/14/2023 9:38 AM
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Knixkik
Posts: 35411 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
2/14/2023 11:17 AM
martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Seems like some of the rankings are really settling in a bit. I really like Hawkins, Kris Murray and Colby Jones in our range for what this team needs. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/14/2023 11:55 AM
RIP Crushalot😞
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martin
Posts: 75993 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
2/14/2023 8:19 PM LAST EDITED: 2/14/2023 8:35 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Wemba's teammate shows a lot of potential. The offense needs some developing, but I like the defensive aggressiveness. I'm also team Maxwell Lewis. I think Kris Murray is probably the safest pick around the area we're picking. I wouldn't be surprised if Thibs saw Council and went to sleep imagining things he could do to this young 3xplosive knees. No mention of the sweetest, most relaxing background music ever for a highlight reel? Folks are gonna miss out if they don’t watch Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/14/2023 9:12 PM
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Wemba's teammate shows a lot of potential. The offense needs some developing, but I like the defensive aggressiveness. I'm also team Maxwell Lewis. I think Kris Murray is probably the safest pick around the area we're picking. I wouldn't be surprised if Thibs saw Council and went to sleep imagining things he could do to this young 3xplosive knees. I'm gonna put it on a loop and play it when I go to sleep. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22403 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
2/16/2023 2:40 AM
The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. I found this paragraph from theringer interesting. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/16/2023 7:19 AM
Trayce Jackson davis is one of those guys like a Brunson or jimmy butler who plays 4 years of college. Dominates improves yet is discounted in the draft. My take is he’s going to be an nba star front court player and ready to go from day 1. I read that he was 1/3 players in the last 40 years to avg 25-10-3-3
RIP Crushalot😞
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Caseloads
Posts: 27725 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/29/2001 Member: #41 |
2/16/2023 9:13 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Trayce Jackson davis is one of those guys like a Brunson or jimmy butler who plays 4 years of college. Dominates improves yet is discounted in the draft. My take is he’s going to be an nba star front court player and ready to go from day 1. I read that he was 1/3 players in the last 40 years to avg 25-10-3-3 sounds like a second rounder. We have so many average to slightly above average guys. we need superstars. |
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Caseloads
Posts: 27725 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/29/2001 Member: #41 |
2/16/2023 9:16 AM
gradyandrew wrote:The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. of course, the most "superstars" are picks #1 to 6. There can be superstars found 7 to 60, but lower likelihood. Once you get outside of the lotto, like picks 15 to 25ish, it's really fit and need for the most part. Pick 26 onward are all about the same - who is available and who fits. We've done well finding talent there - late first round through the second round. There is talent, but it's pretty even. Then, it's about development - how do you develop that talent. |
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Knixkik
Posts: 35411 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
2/16/2023 12:39 PM
gradyandrew wrote:The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. This is a weird take/ observation from the writer. So they are saying the Knicks have the most protected picks. So what? Every other team with a lot of picks moved stars for those unprotected picks and are rebuilding. A majority of these “unremarkable picks” have long tails on them, tying up other teams picks until they convert. It’s unlike the pick the Knicks just sent to Portland, which would convert to second round picks this year if it doesn’t convert. The protections on the Detroit, Washington and Dallas picks remain assets for many years until they convert. The writer has an opinion that lacks context. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
2/16/2023 2:19 PM
Knixkik wrote:Knicks also do really well with these picks. They really scout these guys well and have done a fantastic job fleshing out this roster with guys drafted late. IQ/Grimes/Sims/McBride have all really helped a couple are surely long term fits if they dont get used in a big trade.gradyandrew wrote:The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. That doesnt include Brunson/Mitch who are both 2nd rounder (not drafted by this FO) The FO has a real nose for "guys who can play" and that's what keeps me pretty excited about having these extra picks. Lets us make trades using our picks and ensures we are still in the draft and can continue to supplement the roster "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/16/2023 7:05 PM
fishmike wrote:ace davis( dale Davis’s son) plays for Indiana coached by Mike WoodsonKnixkik wrote:Knicks also do really well with these picks. They really scout these guys well and have done a fantastic job fleshing out this roster with guys drafted late. IQ/Grimes/Sims/McBride have all really helped a couple are surely long term fits if they dont get used in a big trade.gradyandrew wrote:The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. 2 nd rders and late 1 tend to be upperclassmen. These guys get discounted for age while in reality they are more polished in game and body. Fishmike take a look at tr RIP Crushalot😞
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/17/2023 9:52 AM
Caseloads wrote:gradyandrew wrote:The Knicks lead the league in deals for unremarkable first-round picks. Here’s what I mean with that backhanded compliment: The value of a first-round pick drops off dramatically beyond the first few selections; according to Kevin Pelton’s draft chart, the gap between pick no. 1 and pick no. 7 is about as large as the gap between pick no. 7 and pick no. 60. This explains the difficulty teams have in trading up in to the lottery. Unless a team is in love with a player slotted later, you really have to impress them with a package. That's why the Ivey talks with Detroit proved unfruitful. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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