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StarksEwing1
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7/9/2019  11:53 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
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Allanfan20 wrote:With that said.... lets see him finish the Summer league for starters. Maybe he’ll light it up tonight.
Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if RJ has a big game. hen all of a sudden these two previous games will hardly be mentioned

I’ll still feel the same way, even if he goes 20-20 from the field. He needs to work on his consistency on both ends and he needs to learn to be confident in his game with or without his shot.

I agree he needs to work on consistency. However my point is Im pretty confident many will stop overreacting to 2 bad SL games. I think he has a big game tonight. Of course he isn't even close to a finished product, he just turned 19.
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7/9/2019  11:58 AM
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CrushAlot wrote:Summer league is going to become like the nba combine.

What a ridiculous reason! This years summer league is such a disappointment. Many thanks to the rookies who actually bothered to show up and play.

Unless maybe they’re thinking of trading him?


Isn't that the reason you play in the SL?

My feeling is that you should be running a simplified form of your team's offense in SL, and the full offense on your G-League team.

Can't think that the NBA likes seeing so many top picks not playing. SL is important for creating a buzz about your league's future stars.

Very strange.

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7/9/2019  12:41 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I agree with Nalod here. I don’t think RJ should be guaranteed a starting spot from the get-go. If he’s immediately inserted into the starting lineup, sucks and gets demoted, his confidence will get shattered. I think we all realize that his current less than stellar play is definitely partly because of a lack of confidence so we all know what it looks like when that happens.

Him earning the spot with improved defense and consistently hitting shots will do him wonders.

I've been struggling to figure out how this team fits together, and honestly, I think it fits together a lot better if RJ comes off the bench. With RJ coming off the bench, you can construct a starting lineup that better compliments Randle (RJ isn't a good 3 pt shooter, so him alongside Randle and Mitch makes it a bad fit):

PG- DSJ or Payton
SG- Dotson or Trier
SF- Knox or Bullock
PF- Randle
C- Mitch

Maybe his Summer League struggles make it easier to do that

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7/9/2019  12:41 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:With that said.... lets see him finish the Summer league for starters. Maybe he’ll light it up tonight.
Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if RJ has a big game. hen all of a sudden these two previous games will hardly be mentioned

I hope so, just to shut some people up (if his first 2 games are rock solid grounds to judge him, then surely a breakout game has equal weight?

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7/9/2019  1:11 PM
smackeddog wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:With that said.... lets see him finish the Summer league for starters. Maybe he’ll light it up tonight.
Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if RJ has a big game. hen all of a sudden these two previous games will hardly be mentioned

I hope so, just to shut some people up (if his first 2 games are rock solid grounds to judge him, then surely a breakout game has equal weight?

Unfortunetly good news is not as "attractive" as bad news in the media. Especially in the social media age(which I despise) when you struggle for a game or two you are a "Bust" apparently lol
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7/9/2019  1:11 PM
RJ looks either out of shape or possibly he did bulk up and he's trying to adjust to being bigger. Either way he needs time and the one attribute he seems to possess is the drive to be great (don't see that in someone like Knox or DSJr but still hopeful). He has an NBA body and may need to shed a few to regain some quickness. Summer league humbling may be a good thing in the long term.

You do expect more out of a top 3 pick but the reality is there probably a lot of things he will need to learn this season. His shot looks erratic, he will have to adjust to being able to bullying college players, his defensive intensity is inconsistent. So maybe he doesn't win ROY but by the end of the season we'll see growth in either his shooting, defense or ball handling.

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7/9/2019  5:29 PM
He is 19. Of course he needs to work on his inconsistency. He looks awful! Lets hope he gets a game in to create a baseline to work from. At least it will calm us down!! Fans freaking out!
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7/9/2019  6:55 PM
Nalod wrote:He is 19. Of course he needs to work on his inconsistency. He looks awful! Lets hope he gets a game in to create a baseline to work from. At least it will calm us down!! Fans freaking out!

Not me. I just want to see him have 1 solid game in Summer league so he’s confident the rest of the Summer. Imagine if he sucks all 4 games? That $hIt messes with your head! At least he’ll know he has ability.

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7/9/2019  7:31 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Nalod wrote:He is 19. Of course he needs to work on his inconsistency. He looks awful! Lets hope he gets a game in to create a baseline to work from. At least it will calm us down!! Fans freaking out!

Not me. I just want to see him have 1 solid game in Summer league so he’s confident the rest of the Summer. Imagine if he sucks all 4 games? That $hIt messes with your head! At least he’ll know he has ability.

Barrett seems driven. I see him working his butt off until he pushes through.

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7/9/2019  8:54 PM
Calling it....RJ is gonna have good game tonight....book it
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7/9/2019  9:14 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:Calling it....RJ is gonna have good game tonight....book it

I think that he will still stink the joint up.
He doesn't have a magic switch that he can just turn on when he wants to.
There's NOTHING in his game so far that tells me otherwise.

For those tuning in late,.this poster's screen name is another way of calling Knicks "big pussies" by his own admission, he's a Celtics fan, but for some reason spends all his time on a Knicks fan board. GET BENT

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7/9/2019  9:23 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
Losing at Gamepicker much?

Somebody hurt you, because your sorry ass is here and not on a Celtics board.

GustavBahler
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7/9/2019  9:31 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I'm miles above your low life level
of name calling. Grow up.


Right, like your infantile screen name? You made a point of telling posters your screen name is an insult to Knicks fans, you child, Im going to treat you like one.

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7/9/2019  9:46 PM
RJ looks better. Despite struggles he is pretty damn good at getting to the hoop
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7/9/2019  9:49 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:RJ looks better. Despite struggles he is pretty damn good at getting to the hoop

He’s basically showing all of his positives and negatives this game. A beast going left. Zero right whatsoever. Great rebounder. No long range shot. He’s playing pretty decent defense.

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7/9/2019  9:49 PM
RJ playing bully ball...love it.
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7/9/2019  9:50 PM
The pace has been a little slower, making it easier for Barrett to get in a groove.
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7/9/2019  9:50 PM
That midrange step back jumper which went in and out is one of his go to moves from what I saw in video highlights. Not sure what the success rate of the shot is overall, but it seems to be a comfort shot for him. Expect to see it a lot, I think.
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7/9/2019  9:52 PM
Hinton in...I'd like to see him get some extended playing time.
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7/9/2019  9:52 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:RJ looks better. Despite struggles he is pretty damn good at getting to the hoop

Agreed. He does need to work on quicker separation and finishing higher to the rim. Have seen him get to the basket but only to release the ball on the way down. The block on him was a good example of that.

Does seem more patient with better vision today.

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