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Rich
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12/12/2005  10:04 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

comparing frye and bgut is as stupid as it gets. number 1 they play completely different positions and the bIg number 2 Bogut has serious talent around him, many better options than the Knicks Bogut isnt going to shoot the ball 20 times, he might not even get 25 minutes every night with gadzuric and kukoc--why because they are a team.

Yet GMs were faced with choosing between the two of them, and only IT went on the record and said he would take Frye. He deserves props for that.
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12/12/2005  10:04 PM
Posted by McK1:


finally, some honesty from a "Homer"

Watch it man, we're not supposed to agree on anything.
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12/12/2005  10:04 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Bonn1997:

People laughed at Isiah when he said Frye was the best big in the draft. Frye: 30 pts, 7 rbs. Bogut: 4 Pts, 5 rbs

Frye is a better shooter, but that's all right now. They are two different types of players, Bogut will be a true big, Frye is not. Frye played almost 20 more minutes than Bogut and took 14 more shots, Frye had an awesome game but it is so lame to play the Frye vs. Bogut card.

Knight are you trying to argue for prick sake. Bogut had to be taken off Frye because Frye was burning him. Bogut couldn't dominate in your so call post. Bonn gave you the box score numbers. No contest. Redd and Frye were the two best players by far. Right now Bogut isn't even in Frye class. You can't even use the experience factor because Bogut was playing international ball for years. Bogut is not athlethic enough to be a player that you suggest.


Bogut posted frye once, and went into the lane with some junk, got blocked. He has no post game, he will be a good fringe player, get some rebounds, pass the ball , but he has no post game, I mean frye was toasting him, posted him up, turned around and just drained jumper after jumper. simple, and bogut could not defend him, and when he was on curry, it was lopsided ,curry turned on him as if he didn't exist. I think bogut will be a sound player but he is way behind frye and even CV at this point....
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12/12/2005  10:04 PM
Posted by tkf:

frye hit left handed hooks, jumpers, and really abused bogut, How can anyone see anything positive from bogut tonight? if the tables were turned, frye would be crucified on this site..

th picks the ball movement the board work the Mourning-lite block on Frye's dunk attempt the way he steppped out and cut Steph off on the pick and rolls...and he just turned 21.

The guy bring more intangibles in his pinky than 99% of this entire roster.
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12/12/2005  10:05 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
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Isles is not a racist. I met the guy at the season opener. Cool cat.

People take what is said in chat areas too seriously. Isles is has his opinion. He is a good addition to the board. Showing up to the season opener shows what type of guy he is.

That's my two cents since I'm no where near a television with msg on it.
He's a jackass who insulted me the first time he ever posted to me. It was when I had info the Curry trade would go through.

And that makes me a racist? You want to call me an a-hole for that, fine. You want to call me a jackass for that, fine. But calling me a racist is going too far.
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12/12/2005  10:06 PM
I agree TKF..the game was lost when JJ & Taylor game in and allowed Gadzuric to dunk the ball every possession. I don't know why Frye wasn't put on him!
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12/12/2005  10:08 PM
Frye shot jumpshots, just like when they met in college. Bogut is not going to fare well chasing Frye around the perimeter. Fryes jumper is deadly but at this point he looks like no more than a light skin Mark Blount.
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12/12/2005  10:09 PM

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Your propensity to jump on every mistake some of the black players make and then impute nefarious motives, while overlooking similar mistakes from white players.

[Edited by - Rich on 12-12-2005 9:47 PM]
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Wow, that's your basis for calling me a racist? You're an idiot. You want nefarious motives? Look in the mirror you moron.
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wow, this guy must have been a monster of the debate team! "Idiot" and "moron" and no exulpatory facts in his rebuttal! He has not only used those words, he has defined them!
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12/12/2005  10:09 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I don't know why Frye wasn't put on him!

He had his hands full with Kukoc
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12/12/2005  10:10 PM
Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:
Posted by EnySpree:

I changed shifts at work so I was looking forward to seeing the recap but it sounds like this game was in the ****ter from the begining.

When did q dawg make his first appearence? Ill are if I can catch that before I go to bed.

Qdog came in late third and stayed for a good portion of the fourth.

Thanks for the heads up.
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12/12/2005  10:10 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EnySpree:

Isles is not a racist. I met the guy at the season opener. Cool cat.

People take what is said in chat areas too seriously. Isles is has his opinion. He is a good addition to the board. Showing up to the season opener shows what type of guy he is.

That's my two cents since I'm no where near a television with msg on it.
He's a jackass who insulted me the first time he ever posted to me. It was when I had info the Curry trade would go through.

And that makes me a racist? You want to call me an a-hole for that, fine. You want to call me a jackass for that, fine. But calling me a racist is going too far.
That's not what makes you a racist, it's what makes you a jackass. What makes you seem like a racist is the posts you make in these game threads.
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McK1
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12/12/2005  10:11 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by McK1:


finally, some honesty from a "Homer"

Watch it man, we're not supposed to agree on anything.

Choose the blue pill and make the switch...
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12/12/2005  10:11 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EnySpree:

Isles is not a racist. I met the guy at the season opener. Cool cat.

People take what is said in chat areas too seriously. Isles is has his opinion. He is a good addition to the board. Showing up to the season opener shows what type of guy he is.

That's my two cents since I'm no where near a television with msg on it.
He's a jackass who insulted me the first time he ever posted to me. It was when I had info the Curry trade would go through.

And that makes me a racist? You want to call me an a-hole for that, fine. You want to call me a jackass for that, fine. But calling me a racist is going too far.
That's not what makes you a racist, it's what makes you a jackass. What makes you seem like a racist is the posts you make in these game threads.


I'm not following this - Isle fan hates all the Knicks. Don't see that he singles anyone out.
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12/12/2005  10:12 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Bonn1997:

People laughed at Isiah when he said Frye was the best big in the draft. Frye: 30 pts, 7 rbs. Bogut: 4 Pts, 5 rbs

Frye is a better shooter, but that's all right now. They are two different types of players, Bogut will be a true big, Frye is not. Frye played almost 20 more minutes than Bogut and took 14 more shots, Frye had an awesome game but it is so lame to play the Frye vs. Bogut card.

Knight are you trying to argue for prick sake. Bogut had to be taken off Frye because Frye was burning him. Bogut couldn't dominate in your so call post. Bonn gave you the box score numbers. No contest. Redd and Frye were the two best players by far. Right now Bogut isn't even in Frye class. You can't even use the experience factor because Bogut was playing international ball for years. Bogut is not athlethic enough to be a player that you suggest.

Frye was on fire tonight, all the other stats were equal which is sad because Frye played 17 more minutes.

What are you talking about, Frye cause Bogut to pick up fouls. Were you watching the game. The guy had 4 fouls early in the 3rd. The game was won for Bucks beyond the arc. Don't get it confuse. The NBA is a different level for big men. You don't gain athlethicism. Bogut is not in a position to play the style of ball you are talking about. Only Shaq is allowed to play that way. Curry who is a more gifted post player than Bogut isn't allow to play that way yet either. I see Bogut more as an Otis Thrope type of player. I guy with a good post presence but is not gifted enough athlethically to use it at the NBA level.
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12/12/2005  10:13 PM
I'm going to change the tune here. This game emphasized the Knicks need for Ron Artest
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12/12/2005  10:13 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

Your propensity to jump on every mistake some of the black players make and then impute nefarious motives, while overlooking similar mistakes from white players.

[Edited by - Rich on 12-12-2005 9:47 PM]
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Wow, that's your basis for calling me a racist? You're an idiot. You want nefarious motives? Look in the mirror you moron.
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wow, this guy must have been a monster of the debate team! "Idiot" and "moron" and no exulpatory facts in his rebuttal! He has not only used those words, he has defined them!

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And calling someone a racist is a great rebuttal, right?
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McK1
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12/12/2005  10:15 PM
The game was won in the paint behind the arc penetration. NY was dominated. Hating on Bogut b/c Frye had a great night shooting jumpers is pretty lame.

and on that play where he did back down Frye tkf, guess who went up and tapped in the miss while Frye was flailing out of bounds

Bogut
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Pharzeone
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12/12/2005  10:16 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:

frye hit left handed hooks, jumpers, and really abused bogut, How can anyone see anything positive from bogut tonight? if the tables were turned, frye would be crucified on this site..

th picks the ball movement the board work the Mourning-lite block on Frye's dunk attempt the way he steppped out and cut Steph off on the pick and rolls...and he just turned 21.

The guy bring more intangibles in his pinky than 99% of this entire roster.

This is about the dumbest post tonight and yes it is getting personal. Frye is only 22 and you can only point to his one block tonight when his man goes off for 30. He had to watch alot of the game from the bench because Frye kept him in trouble. I would expect the younger guy to have more gusto. The same with when he played the Lakers the other nite, Bogut had a lot to say about Kobe but when Kobe sought him out to posterize, he took it.
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12/12/2005  10:16 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Your propensity to jump on every mistake some of the black players make and then impute nefarious motives, while overlooking similar mistakes from white players.

[Edited by - Rich on 12-12-2005 9:47 PM]

Wow, that's your basis for calling me a racist? You're an idiot. You want nefarious motives? Look in the mirror you moron.
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wow, this guy must have been a monster of the debate team! "Idiot" and "moron" and no exulpatory facts in his rebuttal! He has not only used those words, he has defined them!

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And calling someone a racist is a great rebuttal, right?
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Do you even know what "rebuttal" means? And I have not called you a racist, though I strongly suspect you are one, on some level, based on what you post in these game threads.
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12/12/2005  10:16 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EnySpree:

Isles is not a racist. I met the guy at the season opener. Cool cat.

People take what is said in chat areas too seriously. Isles is has his opinion. He is a good addition to the board. Showing up to the season opener shows what type of guy he is.

That's my two cents since I'm no where near a television with msg on it.
He's a jackass who insulted me the first time he ever posted to me. It was when I had info the Curry trade would go through.

And that makes me a racist? You want to call me an a-hole for that, fine. You want to call me a jackass for that, fine. But calling me a racist is going too far.
That's not what makes you a racist, it's what makes you a jackass. What makes you seem like a racist is the posts you make in these game threads.

Like what?? Give me examples or be man enough to retract your comments and apologize.
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Game Redd: Young Bucks vs. Lame Ducks = Need Some Luck

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