smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

Welpee wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where's hillary's cheerleader, bonn? bonn, it's ok, you can come out now.

everyone has a right to vote for who they want. I voted for trump but i wouldnt criticize anybody voting for hilary. This definetly was unexpected. I knew it was gonna be tight but there have been many twists today

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump. I still see absolutely no redeeming quality to this guy that even remotely hints that he would make even a semi-competent president. I totally get people not liking Clinton. Heck, I don't like her either, but its like saying the Jets suck so I'm voting for the Cleveland Browns.

and this is the problem. nobody gives a **** about what you think. vote for who you want and let others vote for who they want to. who are you? you have no right and i mean NO RIGHT, to tell anyone who and what to vote for. what a joke.

Tell me when I told anybody who to vote for. Read versus react emotionally.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

oh ok, so you didn't TELL anybody who to vote for but you'll play the holier than thou card and just "criticize" them for voting for trump, since there's a huge difference.

yeah i agree with you. He was basically saying im crazy for voting for trump. I admit im not even a trump fan but i feel its the only choice

If you had voted for any other republican candidate and he/she won, I would just tip my hat and say congrats. Trump is a different animal.

i understand your opinion of Trump and i probably agree with some of it BUT calling my decision stupid doesnt exactly make me feel to good especially since i dont consider myself a stupid person

Very smart people make bad (and even stupid) decisions. I'm a democrat and feel we made a stupid decision nominating Clinton.

So all my life when I voted democrat including foolishly for Obama I was a genius. This year because I switched my allegiance and voted Trump I'm stupid. Got it. Very sound and tolerant reasoning

What you're not getting is this isn't about democrat/republican. This is about a single candidate. Again, if you voted for Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, I'm sure I wouldn't be having this discussion with you.

if Trump didnt throw his hat in the ring i would've voted Rubio and he would've never won. Lack of experience and the way the country was headed I didn't see another Republican and career politician ever winning again.

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

I mentioned this earlier but you didn't respond..Do you understand that folks with Obamacare will mostly have no coverage without it?

Sorry Holfresh, just woke up and I just jumped to the newest page.

All I was saying is that we need to bring down care costs before a social medical system will work. I like the idea as it works great in Germany. If costs are 2X or more, and meds are 3X or who knows how much more in America than other places, it will bankrupt the country (possibly). It will be a corporate subsidized medical system. We need to look to make costs reasonable.

For a while I had no health care, wasn't fun, I can relate.

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

I mentioned this earlier but you didn't respond..Do you understand that folks with Obamacare will mostly have no coverage without it?

Sorry Holfresh, just woke up and I just jumped to the newest page.

All I was saying is that we need to bring down care costs before a social medical system will work. I like the idea as it works great in Germany. If costs are 2X or more, and meds are 3X or who knows how much more in America than other places, it will bankrupt the country (possibly). It will be a corporate subsidized medical system. We need to look to make costs reasonable.

For a while I had no health care, wasn't fun, I can relate.

Cost would have come down if the republican congress has skin in the game...They didn't want 20 million people getting health care..Republican governors denied it in their states as more people could have been cover..They want to repeal it and probably will..So no healthcare may be their option..I'm baffled at those who complained about coverage cost when they had none before..

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holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

I mentioned this earlier but you didn't respond..Do you understand that folks with Obamacare will mostly have no coverage without it?

Sorry Holfresh, just woke up and I just jumped to the newest page.

All I was saying is that we need to bring down care costs before a social medical system will work. I like the idea as it works great in Germany. If costs are 2X or more, and meds are 3X or who knows how much more in America than other places, it will bankrupt the country (possibly). It will be a corporate subsidized medical system. We need to look to make costs reasonable.

For a while I had no health care, wasn't fun, I can relate.

Cost would have come down if the republican congress has skin in the game...They didn't want 20 million people getting health care..Republican governors denied it in their states as more people could have been cover..They want to repeal it and probably will..So no healthcare may be their option..I'm baffled at those who complained about coverage cost when they had none before..

I'm not anything, just an Earthman. We need to really work together on getting not only medical care to people, but a CHOICE of what kind of care and not just being a number...
More preventative care, alternative medicine choices, etc. Just as a small example, some health care here will pay for yoga classes, which is a nice preventative treatment. And my healthcare will pay for (some) acupuncture, just lower back.

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

I mentioned this earlier but you didn't respond..Do you understand that folks with Obamacare will mostly have no coverage without it?

Sorry Holfresh, just woke up and I just jumped to the newest page.

All I was saying is that we need to bring down care costs before a social medical system will work. I like the idea as it works great in Germany. If costs are 2X or more, and meds are 3X or who knows how much more in America than other places, it will bankrupt the country (possibly). It will be a corporate subsidized medical system. We need to look to make costs reasonable.

For a while I had no health care, wasn't fun, I can relate.

Well, bankruptcy is Trump's specialty!
Just trying to find a little humor in a long night.

I really hope not. But considering that corruption in on notice and that the banking system is in the shizzer, economy is not so good, do "they" try to bring things down a bit?

I feel relief. I know the worst can still happen, I just hope this decision lessened the chance of war.

gunsnewing wrote:

nixluva wrote:

smackeddog wrote:So what do you think Trump will drop first, his giant wall or ban on all Muslims? Do voters realise that keeping more jobs in America means much higher prices on the **** they like to buy?

The Trump voters for the most part don't know what they've done. Trump talked so much crap and had so little actual policy. They just bought the Snake Oil pitch, hook line and sinker!!!

funny all I heard fro Hillary was how awful a human being Trump is. Absolutely no policy. Plenty of policy from Trump.

TRUMP JUST OFFICIALLY WON BABY. PENN CALLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of my family are Muslims both in America and abroad, I genuinely worry what this means for them

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.

2 things to keep in mind:

There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.

It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas

Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.

What do you think is the reasoning behind that?

Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally

That simplifies things a bit much. Both reason and emotion can be false. I think many, not just latino's, are just sick of the system, sick of globalization and tax cuts that benefit companies and not people.

Understand something, Trump won, despite "polls" showing he was losing the whole time, at least MSM polls (that brings up other issues). The psychological influence of saying "you are losing" is a strong one. To overcome that and MSM is amazing.

Some real work begins though, even with Trump in, corruption is going to try to hold on.

I mentioned this earlier but you didn't respond..Do you understand that folks with Obamacare will mostly have no coverage without it?

Sorry Holfresh, just woke up and I just jumped to the newest page.

All I was saying is that we need to bring down care costs before a social medical system will work. I like the idea as it works great in Germany. If costs are 2X or more, and meds are 3X or who knows how much more in America than other places, it will bankrupt the country (possibly). It will be a corporate subsidized medical system. We need to look to make costs reasonable.

For a while I had no health care, wasn't fun, I can relate.

Cost would have come down if the republican congress has skin in the game...They didn't want 20 million people getting health care..Republican governors denied it in their states as more people could have been cover..They want to repeal it and probably will..So no healthcare may be their option..I'm baffled at those who complained about coverage cost when they had none before..

I'm not anything, just an Earthman. We need to really work together on getting not only medical care to people, but a CHOICE of what kind of care and not just being a number...
More preventative care, alternative medicine choices, etc. Just as a small example, some health care here will pay for yoga classes, which is a nice preventative treatment. And my healthcare will pay for (some) acupuncture, just lower back.

Whatever..