Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/espnnba/status/1839863223069143281

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:DDV before coming here was a 10ppg 36% 3pt journey man. 26 years old and on his 4th team in 4 years. Now will be 5 teams in 5 years.

Shamet is about the same age, also a bit of a journey man, 9ppg 38% from 3 on the same type of volume as DDV.

This FO has done a great job finding great value, maybe Shamet is that next guy.

Because if you take DDV out of this, KAT is just flat out better at everything than Randle. Better scorer, better shooter, better passer, better shotblocker, much better playoff performer. And more importantly, a much better FIT with his spacing and ability to play the C position as well.

+1000

Yeah shamet fits perfect. Even though DEUCE will get DDV mins. Shamet is added shooting insurance and we can never have enough floor spacers. Very underrated pickup by Leon. I like his length as well. Love DDV but him and DEUCE are similar in size. Shamet looks like a taller catch and shoot player who Thibs can sit for 3 games, then play 15-20 mins the next 3 games. And he’s not going to complain yet give you similar floor spacing ability. Upset in losing DDV but happy to give DEUCE those mins with shamet waiting for DEUCE to have a bad shooting week and a Josh hart injury / bad play. I worry about Josh not shooting well in that starting lineup sometimes, but surrounded by 4 capable shooters nullifies that worry. JB, Mikal, OG, KAT

The more I think about this trade the more I’m liking it.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/LetsTalkKnicks_/status/1840403631666876500

Remember when other teams wouldn’t trade with us unless they were fleecing us in trades for past their prime stars on the decline?

Remember when our FO was a laughing stock….our team a punch line?

Me either. We’re back bitches!!! 3rd best odds to win the chip. Sandwiched between our two all stars are very talented high IQ role players. And this in a new CBA designed to make sure teams operating over the tax have flawed rosters. We need to erect a statue of Bock Aller in the lobby of MSG.

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/taylormetrics/status/1839882858141253635

I’m not that familiar with D-Lebron. What does it do?

https://www.bball-index.com/lebron-introduction/

blkexec wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

I think people overstate his “bad” on defense. I love this guy’s takes on tape. I don’t expect him to be Tyson Chandler good at defense. But he can hold his own.

I absolutely love this video take, including the human sound affects (boosh…boosh). I forgot how agile Kat is on his feet guarding pick and rolls. Looks like we have him at the perfect time in his career at 28 yrs old. Seems like his defensive issues was not ability but effort. And in this series under the bright lights of the playoffs against the champs while guarding an MVP caliber player, (on an island) Kat stepped up. Now image what he looks like under a defensive genius name Thibs. I’m not worried. Health is my ONLY concern at this point.

Knicksfan wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/knicksmuse/status/1840437467209429302

How can anyone hate this trade?

Hold on, yes, I loved Randle and Donte. That three against the Sixers runs rent-free in my mind. I wish them luck in their new situation.

But man! MAN! Remember many seasons ago when we were hoping for a star Point Guard and we finally got our star in Brunson? And his connection to the Knicks was clear since the beginning as a young NY fan?

What about a stretch 5 to truly compete in this era, a very talented and legit 7-footer who has played at his best as a Center and has the shot to rival guards! And the guy was a Knicks fan as a kid as well?! And his reasons to appreciate the franchise even beyond his fan hood are solid. He must be conflicted because he really seems to love Min and who wouldn’t after 9 years, but he is indeed coming home. He now has a chance to get his game to a new level while playing for his childhood team?

I’m very excited about this! Yes, people have questions and I’m glad there are because that means there is potential for better days from him. Just like it was with Brunson, so many doubting him and calling him a bench player and nothing more.

This is such a cool team to represent New York! I’m very excited about what this all could lead to!

The issue I have with the trade is that KAT isn't a center, IMHO. If the trade is Randle/Divo for a legit stretch "5", I can get behind the vision. Randle/Divo for another 4 who isnt substantially better seems like a lateral move, at best.

DLeethal wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/knicksmuse/status/1840437467209429302

How can anyone hate this trade?

Hold on, yes, I loved Randle and Donte. That three against the Sixers runs rent-free in my mind. I wish them luck in their new situation.

But man! MAN! Remember many seasons ago when we were hoping for a star Point Guard and we finally got our star in Brunson? And his connection to the Knicks was clear since the beginning as a young NY fan?

What about a stretch 5 to truly compete in this era, a very talented and legit 7-footer who has played at his best as a Center and has the shot to rival guards! And the guy was a Knicks fan as a kid as well?! And his reasons to appreciate the franchise even beyond his fan hood are solid. He must be conflicted because he really seems to love Min and who wouldn’t after 9 years, but he is indeed coming home. He now has a chance to get his game to a new level while playing for his childhood team?

I’m very excited about this! Yes, people have questions and I’m glad there are because that means there is potential for better days from him. Just like it was with Brunson, so many doubting him and calling him a bench player and nothing more.

This is such a cool team to represent New York! I’m very excited about what this all could lead to!

The issue I have with the trade is that KAT isn't a center, IMHO. If the trade is Randle/Divo for a legit stretch "5", I can get behind the vision. Randle/Divo for another 4 who isnt substantially better seems like a lateral move, at best.

Towns is 7ft 250lbs what u talking about lmao

Yeah, wonder why the Wolves mortgaged their future for Rudy Gobert since they already had their "center" on the roster.

jaydh wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:
Yeah, wonder why the Wolves mortgaged their future for Rudy Gobert since they already had their "center" on the roster.

Maybe it was easier for them to find a center than a PF. Who was the PF the year before Gobert came?

Historical data suggests that KAT couldn't handle his defensive responsibilities at the center position. They had Naz Reid and Jaden McDaniels, who they decided to keep, on the roster prior to Gobert.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/knicksmuse/status/1840437467209429302

How can anyone hate this trade?

Hold on, yes, I loved Randle and Donte. That three against the Sixers runs rent-free in my mind. I wish them luck in their new situation.

But man! MAN! Remember many seasons ago when we were hoping for a star Point Guard and we finally got our star in Brunson? And his connection to the Knicks was clear since the beginning as a young NY fan?

What about a stretch 5 to truly compete in this era, a very talented and legit 7-footer who has played at his best as a Center and has the shot to rival guards! And the guy was a Knicks fan as a kid as well?! And his reasons to appreciate the franchise even beyond his fan hood are solid. He must be conflicted because he really seems to love Min and who wouldn’t after 9 years, but he is indeed coming home. He now has a chance to get his game to a new level while playing for his childhood team?

I’m very excited about this! Yes, people have questions and I’m glad there are because that means there is potential for better days from him. Just like it was with Brunson, so many doubting him and calling him a bench player and nothing more.

This is such a cool team to represent New York! I’m very excited about what this all could lead to!

The issue I have with the trade is that KAT isn't a center, IMHO. If the trade is Randle/Divo for a legit stretch "5", I can get behind the vision. Randle/Divo for another 4 who isnt substantially better seems like a lateral move, at best.

Would you consider Jokic a good defender? If not, then I guess it would be impossible for Denver to win a chip with him playing center or to make deep playoff runs. I really don’t get the argument. Towns does a lot of things at an elite level but that’s not good enough for you. Maybe you just really wanted to keep the status quo with Randle and Divo. Towns is a VERY good basketball player. Hating on him because maybe he’s not a plus defender is illogical. There’s a video on this thread of Towns bombing 3’s, then further in it details how he gets to the basket. There is so much to like there. It’s such a major improvement over putting your head down and dribbling into 3 guys guarding the basket (bully ball). Our floor spacing is going to give teams nightmares. No more 5-10 minute stretches where we can’t score or beat a zone. Our team got better. We upgraded talent. It’s all good. DDV can be replaced. His replacement might even already be on the team. What we really need is a healthy Mitch which isn’t Towns’s fault