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ramtour420 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Perry has no choice now but to get KD. If he fails this is gonna kill us. At least unlike other years we have our pick this time but still

Why would any big free agent come here with no KP? Either they have 2 of the big FAs lined up or we have made the dumbest move in franchise history

Thats a good point. I hate it

Yup...

No because this isn't the David Robinson injured while the Spurs draft TD situation. This is Janis amateur hour. KP wasn't gonna resign. Would you rather have lost him to FA for nothin?

I would rather have the franchise run the right way and KP remain.

His brothers are shyte, and KP has clearly lost his innocence, but Porzingis clearly say a franchise he did not want to remain with, and that is on the Knicks, as well as KP.

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The Knicks are using their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts that they signed the last time they had cap space. They are simply hoping there's a 'chance' that an elite player or two wants to come to New York and play with Kevin Knox and Frank Ntilikina. Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

It's as if 2010 and 2016 didn't happen and end terribly. The Knicks simply do not know how to learn from past mistakes.

I understand that KP thought this management sucks and the ownership is awful, that's understandable. I didn't like the way he went about it but so be it. I didn't like his brother either. He was a cancer. So he had to be traded. Okay. Why did he have to be traded in a salary dump? Why not a top 10 pick from a team in this draft or legit young players from Boston, etc? Why are you swinging for the fences once again when your franchise has the worst record in the NBA not just this year but the worst record since 2001? Who in their right minds is running to play for Dolan and Mills? The idea that the Knicks have a plan is a joke. Their plan is no plan. It's just throwing crap at a wall and hoping it sticks. This is a latest example of that.

For the record, Dennis Smith Jr isn't good. He's a poor man's Steve Francis. He can't shoot and has low basketball IQ.

The 2021 pick will likely be in the 20's. It's nothing to be excited about.

The return here was bad because it's a short-sighted move. If the Knicks end up maxing out Kemba and Cousins this summer, then what? Was this what you wanted? To be a treadmill 6-7 seed for the next decade?

The Knicks keep making the same move over and over and keep failing. And they keep selling the same plan and people keep buying it. Look at the roster - it's devoid of talent. Who is worth anything on this team? Knox is 19 but he's shown next to nothing. Mitch has a long way to go. Trier is a 6th man at best. Frank? Dotson? C'mon. The roster is probably the worst in the entire NBA in terms of any talent now that Porzingis is gone.

Don't keep falling for these terrible short sighted moves. This is one of the worst trades in franchise history. The Knicks continue to be a disgrace.

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StarksEwing1 wrote:

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

PresIke wrote:Those protections are not THAT bad.

If the basketball Gods smile on us, the first pick is amazing. If Dallas finishes inside the top ten - that's our pick. If not we have a second chance at a top ten pick the next time around - that like getting three chances at two high picks.

Sign that trade paper before Dallas blinks.

I don't think you get how this works...

I dont think you do..except to b#tch of course. Give us a better and realistic trade offer that you wanted. Go ahead

Neither of us know what was out there right now, but if it was slop like this, I would've just kept KP for now. That doesn't mean we would've had to sign him to a max if he didn't want to be here.

So once again you dont show a better offer like I ask. Saying two first round picks is "slop" along with a lottery pick player doesnt make your case an better lol

I don't work for the Knicks, I don't know how you want me to show you a better offer they had.

You're generalizing what we got back too. The first round picks we got are mediocre given how far in the future they are, one being protected, and the other one still in Doncic and possibly KP's window. And the lottery pick is a disappointing one in his second year and also a guy who's already had issues sharing the ball with a player that's much better than he is. You can say Frank's a lottery pick but it doesn't really matter, it doesn't change that he's not a good player.

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

PresIke wrote:Those protections are not THAT bad.

If the basketball Gods smile on us, the first pick is amazing. If Dallas finishes inside the top ten - that's our pick. If not we have a second chance at a top ten pick the next time around - that like getting three chances at two high picks.

Sign that trade paper before Dallas blinks.

I don't think you get how this works...

The only way Dallas gets its own pick in 2019 is to have lady luck give them 1-5. Otherwise, 6-30 goes to Atlanta. Dallas traded 1-5 to us if that happens otherwise we do it all over next time (unprotected).

Nope, we didn't score that kind of value. From my understanding, Dallas keeps that pick if it's 1-5. And we get delayed by an extra year. Then they'd do it again in 2020, and if Dallas is outside the top 5, Atlanta gets that pick and we don't get our first 1st until 2022, while also pushing the other protected pick to at least 2024. Worst case scenario would push this pretty far and we could end up with a 2025 2nd from Dallas instead of a 1st.

This wasn't exactly negotiated by Nelson Mandela.

No. Actually, this is getting interesting.

2019: If Dallas gets 1-5, it belongs to Dallas or whoever Dallas owes unprotected (maybe us).

2020:If they keep it, then Atlanta waits a year (is 1-5 protected again?) OR Knicks get it.

2021: Dallas traded 2020 so they keep this one.

2022: Does Atlanta get this one if they were shut out? or is this our #2 owed pick protected?

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

homeskillitprigioni wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

PresIke wrote:Those protections are not THAT bad.

If the basketball Gods smile on us, the first pick is amazing. If Dallas finishes inside the top ten - that's our pick. If not we have a second chance at a top ten pick the next time around - that like getting three chances at two high picks.

Sign that trade paper before Dallas blinks.

I don't think you get how this works...

I dont think you do..except to b#tch of course. Give us a better and realistic trade offer that you wanted. Go ahead

Neither of us know what was out there right now, but if it was slop like this, I would've just kept KP for now. That doesn't mean we would've had to sign him to a max if he didn't want to be here.

So once again you dont show a better offer like I ask. Saying two first round picks is "slop" along with a lottery pick player doesnt make your case an better lol

I don't work for the Knicks, I don't know how you want me to show you a better offer they had.

You're generalizing what we got back too. The first round picks we got are mediocre given how far in the future they are, one being protected, and the other one still in Doncic and possibly KP's window. And the lottery pick is a disappointing one in his second year and also a guy who's already had issues sharing the ball with a player that's much better than he is. You can say Frank's a lottery pick but it doesn't really matter, it doesn't change that he's not a good player.

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martin wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:If you support this trade then you are simply falling for the same old **** the Knicks have been feeding for you a decade or more.

The Knicks are using their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts that they signed the last time they had cap space. They are simply hoping there's a 'chance' that an elite player or two wants to come to New York and play with Kevin Knox and Frank Ntilikina. Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

It's as if 2010 and 2016 didn't happen and end terribly. The Knicks simply do not know how to learn from past mistakes.

I understand that KP thought this management sucks and the ownership is awful, that's understandable. I didn't like the way he went about it but so be it. I didn't like his brother either. He was a cancer. So he had to be traded. Okay. Why did he have to be traded in a salary dump? Why not a top 10 pick from a team in this draft or legit young players from Boston, etc? Why are you swinging for the fences once again when your franchise has the worst record in the NBA not just this year but the worst record since 2001? Who in their right minds is running to play for Dolan and Mills? The idea that the Knicks have a plan is a joke. Their plan is no plan. It's just throwing crap at a wall and hoping it sticks. This is a latest example of that.

For the record, Dennis Smith Jr isn't good. He's a poor man's Steve Francis. He can't shoot and has low basketball IQ.

The 2021 pick will likely be in the 20's. It's nothing to be excited about.

The return here was bad because it's a short-sighted move. If the Knicks end up maxing out Kemba and Cousins this summer, then what? Was this what you wanted? To be a treadmill 6-7 seed for the next decade?

The Knicks keep making the same move over and over and keep failing. And they keep selling the same plan and people keep buying it. Look at the roster - it's devoid of talent. Who is worth anything on this team? Knox is 19 but he's shown next to nothing. Mitch has a long way to go. Trier is a 6th man at best. Frank? Dotson? C'mon. The roster is probably the worst in the entire NBA in terms of any talent now that Porzingis is gone.

Don't keep falling for these terrible short sighted moves. This is one of the worst trades in franchise history. The Knicks continue to be a disgrace.

Your logic is hot garbage.

Elite players coming to play with Frank and Knox.... [rolls eyes].

The 2 elite players would come to team up with a high lottery pick, Knox, Frank, Trier, Mitch and whatever min contracts other vet dudes would sign to play with Durant and Kyrie.

Fucking Greek Freak and 4 other role players are leading the East right now; I am sure Kyrie and Durant could walk to the East finals in a cake walk.

No my logic is the truth. You're falling for the old bait and switch again.

High lottery pick - why would a superstar car about a lottery pick? They want to win now, not wait for a player to develop. Durant will be 31.

Mitch has done nothing in the league except block shots and foul out every game. He's not ready to win now.

Knox is not ready to win now or even play regular NBA minutes.

Frank is a defensive backup.

Say you're Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. You look at this team. You objectively think the Knicks are in a superb position to win a title by teaming up those 2 with a bunch of unproven rookies and/or some guys who not even be NBA worthy?

The Knicks are swinging for a pipe dream. They traded their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts they signed the last time they had cap space (ya'll forgot about Amare, Noah, Hardaway, Lee, etc, huh?) to have a chance - a CHANCE - to sign some superstars who somehow will be so enamored by the GAHDEN and DA MECCA that they will throw out all conventional wisdom and come play for statistically the worst franchise in the NBA since 2001.

JamesKPolk wrote:

martin wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:If you support this trade then you are simply falling for the same old **** the Knicks have been feeding for you a decade or more.

The Knicks are using their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts that they signed the last time they had cap space. They are simply hoping there's a 'chance' that an elite player or two wants to come to New York and play with Kevin Knox and Frank Ntilikina. Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

It's as if 2010 and 2016 didn't happen and end terribly. The Knicks simply do not know how to learn from past mistakes.

I understand that KP thought this management sucks and the ownership is awful, that's understandable. I didn't like the way he went about it but so be it. I didn't like his brother either. He was a cancer. So he had to be traded. Okay. Why did he have to be traded in a salary dump? Why not a top 10 pick from a team in this draft or legit young players from Boston, etc? Why are you swinging for the fences once again when your franchise has the worst record in the NBA not just this year but the worst record since 2001? Who in their right minds is running to play for Dolan and Mills? The idea that the Knicks have a plan is a joke. Their plan is no plan. It's just throwing crap at a wall and hoping it sticks. This is a latest example of that.

For the record, Dennis Smith Jr isn't good. He's a poor man's Steve Francis. He can't shoot and has low basketball IQ.

The 2021 pick will likely be in the 20's. It's nothing to be excited about.

The return here was bad because it's a short-sighted move. If the Knicks end up maxing out Kemba and Cousins this summer, then what? Was this what you wanted? To be a treadmill 6-7 seed for the next decade?

The Knicks keep making the same move over and over and keep failing. And they keep selling the same plan and people keep buying it. Look at the roster - it's devoid of talent. Who is worth anything on this team? Knox is 19 but he's shown next to nothing. Mitch has a long way to go. Trier is a 6th man at best. Frank? Dotson? C'mon. The roster is probably the worst in the entire NBA in terms of any talent now that Porzingis is gone.

Don't keep falling for these terrible short sighted moves. This is one of the worst trades in franchise history. The Knicks continue to be a disgrace.

Your logic is hot garbage.

Elite players coming to play with Frank and Knox.... [rolls eyes].

The 2 elite players would come to team up with a high lottery pick, Knox, Frank, Trier, Mitch and whatever min contracts other vet dudes would sign to play with Durant and Kyrie.

Fucking Greek Freak and 4 other role players are leading the East right now; I am sure Kyrie and Durant could walk to the East finals in a cake walk.

No my logic is the truth. You're falling for the old bait and switch again.

High lottery pick - why would a superstar car about a lottery pick? They want to win now, not wait for a player to develop. Durant will be 31.

Mitch has done nothing in the league except block shots and foul out every game. He's not ready to win now.

Knox is not ready to win now or even play regular NBA minutes.

Frank is a defensive backup.

Say you're Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. You look at this team. You objectively think the Knicks are in a superb position to win a title by teaming up those 2 with a bunch of unproven rookies and/or some guys who not even be NBA worthy?

The Knicks are swinging for a pipe dream. They traded their franchise player to get rid of terrible contracts they signed the last time they had cap space (ya'll forgot about Amare, Noah, Hardaway, Lee, etc, huh?) to have a chance - a CHANCE - to sign some superstars who somehow will be so enamored by the GAHDEN and DA MECCA that they will throw out all conventional wisdom and come play for statistically the worst franchise in the NBA since 2001.