knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:TKF are you saying lin is not a streaky scorer?

what I am saying is that lin brought a dynamic to this team we just don't get from our multi million dollar stars..

Nah, you said Melo was a streaky scorer, I won't deny that, but I'm asking you is Lin a streaky scorer as well?

simple yes or no.

lin is not a scorer, he is a playmaker... a catalyst...

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:TKF are you saying lin is not a streaky scorer?

what I am saying is that lin brought a dynamic to this team we just don't get from our multi million dollar stars..

Nah, you said Melo was a streaky scorer, I won't deny that, but I'm asking you is Lin a streaky scorer as well?

simple yes or no.

lin is not a scorer, he is a playmaker... a catalyst...

Lin is not a scorer? Really?

arkrud wrote:The human nature is to protect the hapiness they have with whatever it takes.
Sport fandome is to have fun and piece of mind in the mix of various live distructions and problems.
Fans will tell everybody and themselwse that whatever happened with their belowed team is good.
Lin out - it is good because Lin is yada-yada-yada; Lin in - it is good because Lin is yada-yada-yada.
Fans will lie themselves to the point they will belive in their lies like there is nothing else out there.
The only little problem is the reality which will hit in April 2013... Let talk then... and hope for the best.

so true happens all the time

gunsnewing wrote:Lin as a starter last year was at what 18.9pts 8.8assists 44% FG. Felton's career 11 and 5 @40% & 30% from 3. Hmmmm

Since you are using Lin's #'s which were compiled in MDA's system, why not compare it to Felton's #'s in the same system? I remember at one point Felton was playing at an allstar level under MDA and his numbers were something like 19 and 9.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Linsanity was the most exciting time I had as a knick fan in many many years, nobody can say that it wasn't. The issue is when posters dumbly state that players come back and kill Linsanity ignoring the drastic change in strength of schedule. MDA system which failed miserably was proven to work since we won during Linsanity. A cream puff schedule and context is often missed and/or intentionally ignored. Miami beat us 4-1 - but did they not do that against OKC?

There are definitely two sides that are extreme and they are both silly positions and its quite boring to have to stick to party lines on everything. Its kind of cool when one can think for themselves even though it might piss off both sides/everyone.

Melo and Lin for each of their stretches made it exciting to watch basketball. I really hope he sux for houston so we can feel less crappy about him leaving - as evil as that sounds.

The knicks were awful prior to Woody (outside of Linsanity). Who was to blame? EVERYONE!! And I have said this numerous times. Melo SUCKED! AMARE was even worse, and MDA? If he were driving down a road and there was a detour, he would just sit there until they finished construction.

Basketball is one of the hardest/most fun to debate precisely because with 5 players all on the court at the same time playing on both sides of the ball it's never clear who should get the lion's share of the glory/blame. The MDA/Melo/Amare pairing was not working at all. Whose fault that is will never really be clear and there are those whose minds are made up and won't change.

I'm just looking forward to the season. The optimist in me is hoping Amare and Melo realize that the next 3 years will define their legacies as players and they both become more complete players. If not I suppose we can look forward to various factions of haters and lovers pissing and moaning on this board over 82 games. When will it be fair to pass judgement on Melo/Amare/Woody? Obviously there are those who will declare final conclusions after the 1st quarter against Brooklyn but since small sample size is getting such a bad name on this board, perhaps it's best to wait till the all star break?

Well put - LET THE GAMES BEGIN! There is no way anyone will wait until the allstar game to judge this team/players

VCoug wrote:

infinitilov100 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:That contract will be looked at as a bargain as Lin makes the allstar team 3yrs in a row and then gets a new 5yr max contract at 100mil and earns every penny of it as a 26yr pg in his prime

Knicks have cap space when he becomes a free agent again.

Yes exactly then we can send shumpert along with 5 future first and second rd picks to houston for jeremy lin who we shoulve just kept in 2012

We're going to stick to the plan and that's to get Chris Paul.

You're ****ting me right? We have absolutely nothing of value to trade for him, nothing. Of course, if we had kept Lin it's possible that he could have been the centerpiece for a CP3 trade.

Watch Grunny get it done. He's a miracle worker.

tkf wrote:

infinitilov100 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:Reason is because it was personal, not business

+10000000000000000000

and you know this how...because it was in the papers? Unless you heard it from Dolan or, your a mind reader, you don't know what your talking about. Like I said before, lots of telepaths posting here.

because people are judge on there past not there future (in most cases) they said they would match and they had every intentions on doing that until it became personal...

My agent tells me that the knicks are big on me and I believe they'll match anything. my agent calls the rockets and tells them, hey if your serious about retaining my client, you may have to up the $ cause your wasting your ink with that contract thats going to be match in the blink of an eye, I figure if you add a few more $ you will atleast have them 2nd guessing themselves..

The rockets lose nothing cause they can waive him in the 3rd year, trade him, or if he plays upto the potential, they have a franchise player..

it was a business move on the rockets part, and a personal decision on the knicks part..

why would the knicks commit to 3 pgs before committing to lin ?

Because they weren't going cost close to 50 mil dollars for a guy who broke down after 25 games...

I don't know about that..The guy goes from not playing at all to playing close to 40 mins 5 times a wk..with almost no rest in between time, no adjustment period..

MDA PGs during his knick tenure where breaking down after 3/4 months regardless..

fields was the only player to play 66 games on the knicks roster last season..

57.85 mil in year 3, no sign and trades, any trade has to be dollar for dollar so no relief from year three of that contract unless the knicks waive Lin and stretch the cost out over several years. Those numbers and the limited options the Knicks had after commiting to that contract are why it was ummatchable from a business prospective. I assume the commitment to 3 point guards includes Pablo's 1 year deal at 488,000. I would just take that right out of your argument. The Knicks got Pablo because they wanted him and he cost them nothing. Kidd was obtained to mentor Lin and both his and Felton's contracts are much more reasonable in my opinion.

did you ever think Joe johnson would be traded with that contract..EVERY CONTRACT in the NBA is tradable

I'm not surprised that the Nyets traded for JJ. They were the only ones who would. That was a desperate move.

NY fans are incredible.. LOL.. desperate? how we got carmelo was desperate, we were played by both the nets and the nuggets... Our very knicks tried hard to get joe johnson, I wonder what the perception of him would have been had he been in a knicks uniform.. I like JJ, I hate his contract, but I like him.. he would have been a much better fit with our young team and amare than pairing amare with the iso first round exit king...