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GAME THREAD: Brooms, Helicopters & Teardrops...Knicks New "D" will get the stops!!!
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blkexec
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12/29/2011  2:06 AM
Knicksfan wrote:Mike D'Antoni has to earn his paycheck big time and make this offense work without true PG play. Tonight he failed miserably.

Any coach thats only successful when they have certain players on their team (when we already have 2 maybe 3 HOF players already), is not an NBA coach, but rather an assistance coach on a solid team.

MDA is like Mike Marts of Football.

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12/29/2011  3:20 AM
blkexec wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Mike D'Antoni has to earn his paycheck big time and make this offense work without true PG play. Tonight he failed miserably.

Any coach thats only successful when they have certain players on their team (when we already have 2 maybe 3 HOF players already), is not an NBA coach, but rather an assistance coach on a solid team.

MDA is like Mike Marts of Football.


I have to disagree. Not many teams would want to have TD as their starting PG with only an aging Bibby as his backup! Until we get Lin up to speed that's all we've got while we wait for Shumpert and most importantly Davis to get healthy. Just you wait and see how good this team will be with competent PG play.
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12/29/2011  7:45 AM
Knicksfan wrote:Mike D'Antoni has to earn his paycheck big time and make this offense work without true PG play. Tonight he failed miserably.

+1,000,000

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12/29/2011  7:58 AM
It's 1 game people! The played tough against the Celts and threw up a stinker last night. With this schedule not all games are going to be pretty. Let's get at least 10 games under our belts before we start the hang MDA campaign. The Knicks got crushed on the boards and turnovers killed them last night. Fields looked like a stud on offense last night but had 4 turnovers by the 3rd quarter. TD was chUcking whenever he got the ball, Melo and STAT were way off, Chandler was in foul trouble all game and there was little to no ball movement.

This schedule is crazy and we have a lot of new pieces with little to no practice time. What happened las night is only 1 game. We're 1-1 with 64 more games to go and we're currently playing without our starting PG and super rookie. I expect a much better performance tonight against Kobe and company. No need to panic after 1 game especially against a team that whooped the Bulls the previous game.

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12/29/2011  8:29 AM
CashMoney wrote:It's 1 game people! The played tough against the Celts and threw up a stinker last night. With this schedule not all games are going to be pretty. Let's get at least 10 games under our belts before we start the hang MDA campaign. The Knicks got crushed on the boards and turnovers killed them last night. Fields looked like a stud on offense last night but had 4 turnovers by the 3rd quarter. TD was chUcking whenever he got the ball, Melo and STAT were way off, Chandler was in foul trouble all game and there was little to no ball movement.

This schedule is crazy and we have a lot of new pieces with little to no practice time. What happened las night is only 1 game. We're 1-1 with 64 more games to go and we're currently playing without our starting PG and super rookie. I expect a much better performance tonight against Kobe and company. No need to panic after 1 game especially against a team that whooped the Bulls the previous game.

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Excellent points Cash Money. I share your keen observations.

"Fields looked like a stud on offense last night but had 4 turnovers by the 3rd quarter." (Landry Fields fits more in a deliberate offense, where he can take advantage of the angles and his sudden cuts to the rack. He has no one to get him the ball. When the pace accelerates he gets in trouble)

"TD was chucking whenever he got the ball," (who died and gave Tondy the license to hoist like that?)

"Melo and STAT were way off," (because chucking is contagious)

"Chandler was in foul trouble all game and there was little to no ball movement." (due to chucking)

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12/29/2011  9:00 AM
It's not just one game. It was the Warriors missing Steph Curry and the Knicks got blown out. It's the same old bull ****. Lack of effort and intensity and going through the motion.

We are fortunate to get three teams in a row without their "stars" this team is so full of **** already. Melo and Amare always talking about defense, desire, championships. Buckle down and beat the teams you're supposed to beat.

They better win this evening.

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12/29/2011  9:29 AM
When the so called "offensive genius" can't get his team to score, it becomes a major concern because we all already know what his defensive strategies are capable of, which is absolutely nothing.
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12/29/2011  10:53 AM
The over/under was 207 last night. Why wouldn't Knicks Warriors go over 207 points, right? Smfh.

Game sucked but I have no doubt they will get in some flow soon enough.

Look for an 8 game win streak at some point.

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12/29/2011  10:54 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:When the so called "offensive genius" can't get his team to score, it becomes a major concern because we all already know what his defensive strategies are capable of, which is absolutely nothing.

You can be genius all you want but if no one can execute your design, what can you do about this?

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12/29/2011  1:41 PM
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TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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12/29/2011  2:14 PM
this loss was on Melo.

i don't think he completely buys into MDA's system.

did anyone notice that he was the recipient of at least 3 passes that bounced off his head and body?

Fields, Amare and Chandler all tried to hit Melo on cuts only to find that he was not paying attention.

it's as if he's going through the motions when it comes to running the set plays. at least last night it did.

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12/29/2011  5:44 PM
That game was tough to watch. A lot of things happened...

1. The Superstars didn't play well. Amar'e and Carmelo aren't on the same page yet. They didn't shoot well last night and they both settled for too many midrange jumpers. Good things happened when they went to the rim, but they stopped doing that in the second half. This team is only going to be successful if Amar'e makes some major adjustments to his game. He needs to defend the paint instead of being out on the perimeter and letting David Lee get to the basket. Chandler also got in foul trouble, and he's the only guy on this squad who defends the paint with any effort right now.

2. Foul trouble and injuries. At one point the lineup was Bibby, Douglas, Balkman, Novak and Stoudamire. That's not a good lineup, especially on defense. If the team was healthy, Bibby and Novak wouldn't get minutes at all. We saw just how much of a defensive liability Bibby is in this game, and through two games Josh Harrelson doesn't look he can even play. He has a big body, but to me he looks slow, unathletic and mentally unprepared. He's airballing shots and dropping passes. I'm not saying it's time to bench him completely, but there's a reason that Jared Jeffries keeps getting minutes even though everyone hates him. It might be time to look at Jerome Jordan a little more, at least at the five.

3. Landry Fields was a stud and so was Bill Walker. Through two games Fields sure looks like he belongs in the starting lineup.

The positive is that it's just one game. Of course, New York should easily beat a Golden State team missing Steph Curry, but nights like this are going to happen between the defensive flaws, chemistry issues and the lockout. Ultimately where this team finishes in the regular season hardly matters as long as they get in the playoffs, though.

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12/29/2011  5:46 PM
y2zipper wrote:That game was tough to watch. A lot of things happened...

1. The Superstars didn't play well. Amar'e and Carmelo aren't on the same page yet. They didn't shoot well last night and they both settled for too many midrange jumpers. Good things happened when they went to the rim, but they stopped doing that in the second half. This team is only going to be successful if Amar'e makes some major adjustments to his game. He needs to defend the paint instead of being out on the perimeter and letting David Lee get to the basket. Chandler also got in foul trouble, and he's the only guy on this squad who defends the paint with any effort right now.

2. Foul trouble and injuries. At one point the lineup was Bibby, Douglas, Balkman, Novak and Stoudamire. That's not a good lineup, especially on defense. If the team was healthy, Bibby and Novak wouldn't get minutes at all. We saw just how much of a defensive liability Bibby is in this game, and through two games Josh Harrelson doesn't look he can even play. He has a big body, but to me he looks slow, unathletic and mentally unprepared. He's airballing shots and dropping passes. I'm not saying it's time to bench him completely, but there's a reason that Jared Jeffries keeps getting minutes even though everyone hates him. It might be time to look at Jerome Jordan a little more, at least at the five.

3. Landry Fields was a stud and so was Bill Walker. Through two games Fields sure looks like he belongs in the starting lineup.

The positive is that it's just one game. Of course, New York should easily beat a Golden State team missing Steph Curry, but nights like this are going to happen between the defensive flaws, chemistry issues and the lockout. Ultimately where this team finishes in the regular season hardly matters as long as they get in the playoffs, though.

Landry killed us last night with his turnovers.

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12/29/2011  5:51 PM
Landry had four turnovers, which sucks but he was also 5-10 from the field with 14 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals and three turnovers. He had a good game.

Nobody should be banging on him for last night's game when Carmelo Anthony went 3-13 and when Amar'e was just pathetic.

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12/29/2011  6:03 PM
Landry's turnovers only stick out cause he turned the ball over the same way EVERY TIME, which indicates that, "Houston, we have a problem."

He needs to stop telegraphing his passes.

He also needs to stop hesitating with his shot when he's open, cause too often when he does that, he'll decide to drive to the basket to "make up for" his stupid hesitation, get caught in a tight spot, then desperately try to look for a teammate to bail him out, only to get the ball stolen cause he telegraphed his pass.

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12/29/2011  6:13 PM
I am still sick over this game..
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