Posted by Marv:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:
lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.
A real player would have had an impact on the game.
That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.
you two can't be serious.. but then again.. nevermind...
What do you mean? Yes he got his numbers but he continued to make terrible passes and try to do too much at times and constantly got blocked by Pau. Everyone tears Nate a new one for his bad play why not the same for Lee.
because lee's bad game didn’t include 4-17 shooting, or 6 turnovers, or no work on the boards. though he was struggling, he produced 22 points on 8-16 form the floor and 6-7 from the line, 12 boards, an assist and a steal and 2 turnovers. he's gotten to the point where a bad game still includes a good stat line. he consistently contributes, even when struggling. to me that's impressive. when chandler, nate and al have struggled, their game contributions end up being absolutely horrific.
Lee will rarely, if ever, shoot 4-17 because he rarely shoots from outside the paint. And he won't turn the ball over much because he doesn't dribble much. So comparing him to other players, who have drastically different games, with those statistics is foolhardy.
On a team with little depth, that allows him to play 40 minutes a night in a run and gun system, he's going to score some points. Mostly on easy baskets created by his teammates. Add to that his rebounding prowess, which is enhanced again by the style of play and the increased possessions by both teams, and he'll put up close to a double double every night. That's a testament to him but there's no disputing the fact that his numbers are soft. Last night was the classic example. Looking at the stat sheet, one might think that he had a solid game but watching the game you saw how little impact he had.
David Lee is a nice player and would be a very valuable complementary player on a winning team, assuming he learns how to play defense, but he's not even close to being an impact player. He can't carry a team, or even be the go to guy when they need a score, because he has no offensive game.
I'd love to keep Lee here but he's a luxury on a bad, rebuilding team. There's no way I risk missing out on a real impact player just to keep him here. It's a shame that it might come to that but with Curry and Jeffries being untradeable, one because he's an irresponsible manchild and the other because of his insane contract with an escalator clause, the Knicks have no choice.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System