Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

what has Petro proven other than that 1 dunk clip?

We hear about Splitter doing well in the playoffs against top Euro conpetition. what is Petro doing right now?

If Bynum is gone and Isiah likes Splitter I wouldn't mind one bit if he's our project center or even PF but I rather draft BPA first and pick up a mid 1st rounf pick and draft Splitter

Petro isnt even being measured at Chicago. im sorry, but ive seen his picture all over the web. They measured Bynum at his workout 7-1 1/8 282 with a 7-6 wingspan. That, my friends is a real C and hes only 17

His wing span keeps getting bigger. Wasn't it 7'4" last week? 7'6"? Now that's longer than Yao's wing span. At this rate, his wing span will be wider than the basketball court by the time next season starts!


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/08/2005 21:37:37]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by gunsnewing:

what has Petro proven other than that 1 dunk clip?

We hear about Splitter doing well in the playoffs against top Euro conpetition. what is Petro doing right now?

If Bynum is gone and Isiah likes Splitter I wouldn't mind one bit if he's our project center or even PF but I rather draft BPA first and pick up a mid 1st rounf pick and draft Splitter

Petro isnt even being measured at Chicago. im sorry, but ive seen his picture all over the web. They measured Bynum at his workout 7-1 1/8 282 with a 7-6 wingspan. That, my friends is a real C and hes only 17

His wing span keeps getting bigger. Wasn't it 7'4" last week? 7'6"? Now that's longer than Yao's wing span. At this rate, his wing span will be wider than the basketball court by the time next season starts!

Thats what he was measured at last week. you must be thinking about Ike Diogu who has a 7-4 reach. You must know a lot about basketball, because Yao actually has a very small reach for his size, 7-1.

WTF

is with this forum and Bynum hype? Briggs is a great poster but I can't fall in love with Bynum just from Briggs's posts. And no one's really denied him until this thread! Most of the replies have come from "eh..." to "ok i guess" to "Awesome this kid rocks!!!"

How do you know? From the snippets you read on him? THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO INFO ON THIS KID! guns makes fun of someone else for the 1 dunk clip of Petro, how many clips of Bynum are there?! How many statlines do you see? Where are his HS stats?

The plusses i see so far:

HUGE Kid: Since when did JUST SIZE become such a big factor? SIZE and some sort of showing of skills maybe.. But how does anyone really know what skills Bynum has when he hasn't even worked out 2v2! He had MAYBE 1 good performance at some HS game.

Great Wingspan: He's 7-1, what do you think his wingspan is gonna be? 6-10? Its gonna be a few inches longer than his height, which it is. Awesome. Ike Diogu has that wingspan, too.

Great Hands (& Feet?): Nice, he can rebound when no one's defending him! Awesome he can slowly dribble the ball! No one at 7-1 is gonna need dribbling.

Just those 3 attributes aren't gonna swing me over to his side. There are so many huge guys that dont amount to anything so how can you possibly KNOW that this is the one that turns the Knicks around? I dont hear anything about amazing athleticism. I dont hear anything about extraordinary hustle/heart (Amare, Ben).

All I hear is that he's huge and he's 17... and OMG! HE's STILL GROWING! And the UConn coach said he's not bad. Great! Let's stop thinking and spend our pick on him!

AND... for pick 30 we can get Sun Ming Ming the giant from China. He's 7-9 (almost), 7-9 wingspan, and he HAS to have great (huge) hands.. With that combo, we'll never lose!

Forget proving yourself in games, athletecism, and work ethic! Let's just get some potential bigs! If it f**ks up, we can just keep on firing people and keep blaming the organization, not ourselves!

[Edited by - metra on 06/08/2005 22:23:51]

Thats not the same guns.. I dont have to tell you that everyone KNEW Lebron was gonna be great just from his televised games. To tell you the truth I dont remember Duncan's drafting but I'm positive that all the GM's and fans had were a few snippets about him on the internet..

All I'm saying is that a body doesn't make a player. Sure, height doesn't grow on trees but we can't go jumping on any guy that isn't anemic and is over 7..

do you mean that he's good only compared to others? and that the others are bad just cause theyre skinny?

That logic just has to be flawed. Does he have any kind of athletic skills? I'd go as far to say that the tweeners are more skilled than he is just because thats whats going for them: theyre skill/athleticism. Not their physicality (being skinny). All Bynym has is the potential to be better than them. But no one really knows if he will, except that those amazing hands of his might help.

[Edited by - metra on 06/08/2005 22:45:46]

Posted by metra:

WTF

is with this forum and Bynum hype? Briggs is a great poster but I can't fall in love with Bynum just from Briggs's posts. And no one's really denied him until this thread! Most of the replies have come from "eh..." to "ok i guess" to "Awesome this kid rocks!!!"


How do you know? From the snippets you read on him? THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO INFO ON THIS KID! guns makes fun of someone else for the 1 dunk clip of Petro, how many clips of Bynum are there?! How many statlines do you see? Where are his HS stats?

The plusses i see so far:

HUGE Kid: Since when did JUST SIZE become such a big factor? SIZE and some sort of showing of skills maybe.. But how does anyone really know what skills Bynum has when he hasn't even worked out 2v2! He had MAYBE 1 good performance at some HS game.

Great Wingspan: He's 7-1, what do you think his wingspan is gonna be? 6-10? Its gonna be a few inches longer than his height, which it is. Awesome. Ike Diogu has that wingspan, too.

Great Hands (& Feet?): Nice, he can rebound when no one's defending him! Awesome he can slowly dribble the ball! No one at 7-1 is gonna need dribbling.

Just those 3 attributes aren't gonna swing me over to his side. There are so many huge guys that dont amount to anything so how can you possibly KNOW that this is the one that turns the Knicks around? I dont hear anything about amazing athleticism. I dont hear anything about extraordinary hustle/heart (Amare, Ben).

All I hear is that he's huge and he's 17... and OMG! HE's STILL GROWING! And the UConn coach said he's not bad. Great! Let's stop thinking and spend our pick on him!

AND... for pick 30 we can get Sun Ming Ming the giant from China. He's 7-9 (almost), 7-9 wingspan, and he HAS to have great (huge) hands.. With that combo, we'll never lose!

Forget proving yourself in games, athletecism, and work ethic! Let's just get some potential bigs! If it f**ks up, we can just keep on firing people and keep blaming the organization, not ourselves!

[Edited by - metra on 06/08/2005 22:23:51]

Actually you must have missed the thread where I said the same things and guess who came and attacked me? I was called a child who didnt know anything about basketball and some sh.it about briggs' father being a playground legend and him being a better speller than me or something-I can't remember it all. So no you are not the only one here who is seeing what is happening here.

Bynum is an interesting prospect, and if he pans out, he wont be available to us because he'll be a top 3 pick. So the thinking is to take the risk and draft him before he fully develops into the monster he is going to be.

I don't have a problem with that logic, if that is what Isiah thinks is best. But I do have a problem when this kid who hasn't done anything besides play well in some high school all-star games, is basically being penciled in for the Hall of Fame.

It is a serious risk, and if it doesn't pan out, we're ****ed another year. High school is not the NBA, it isn't even the NCAA, and everyone is forgetting that this kid may just be another Desagana Diop. Yes it is possible, likely even.

Read about his workouts and tell me if you thik they were really impressive. They sounded pretty average to me, but I'll get lambasted for saying that. Read them and tell me what you think.

And if I hear Briggs, talk about this kid's f.ucking bone bruise ONE MORE TIME!!!!

You beat me to it. I had this exact same profile ready to post it. There are some important differences between them though. Diop was extremely raw offensively, whereas Bynum is supposed to be like Hakeem Olajuan in the post. And he has a decent shot. Those are important differences, but still there is the chance that Bynum becomes Diop or Jerome James or something.