Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Marv:

BRIGGS, you are hysterical!!!

I love your enthusiasm but that picture shows absolutely nothing about how well a 7-footer "gets up!"

Can we get pics throughout his life. You know, when he got onto a school bus for his first day of school as a little kid? Maybe some pics of him blowing out candles at his birthday parties too?

Posted by BRIGGS:




Sometimes people are so dumb that they could see gold in front of them and pooh pooh it as a choclate wrapper.
Im sorry kid, Ive probably watch more basketball in one year than you have seen in your entire life, I was playing college basketball when you were dunking your nerf in your diapers. My father was one of the best HS players EVER in the city of Brooklyn and a man by the name of Billy Cunningham would attest to that. Sorry kid, I know more basketball than you will ever know. the Knicks to me are more than passive entertainment, its been a part of my life since my dad started bringing me to the garden when i was 6. And I care about the Knicks well being as a person would care about anything they love. Yep, I love the Knicks, have for 30 years and want the best fo them. Call me crazy, but thats that. I feel great opportunity here for them, I know it, and I dont want the opportunity to pass us, all of us who care big fan small fan yadayada

Posted by franco12:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Killa4luv:

I have to say though, except for his size and youth, there is nothing that really seperates him from the other bigs in the draft. I like Bynum, but it isn't as if he is this skilled big man who does so many hings well. He just really big and really young.

I wouldn't bet the house on him, and that is what alot of guys here are proposing. He is not even close to a sure thing, but he is being talked about as if he were. IIf Akindale is around @30 I'd take the BPA at 8 and sleep well.

Let me see, Bynum was rated the number 1 C on the rivals 100 even though he was hurt all year and put on weight due to a bone bruise,he was the crown jewel of a recruiting class to a top National program that sends successful lottery pick after lottery pick to the NBA and when they get to the nBA they are ALL awesome. Jim Calhoun said on his radio show that Bynum had more potential than Emeka Okafor, Josh Boone called him a beast and impossible to guard, he s 7-1 275 very mobile athletic huge wingspan, great hands and feet, nice set of raw skills, tremendous frame intelligence work ethic. he already has a developed baby hook and 2-3 solid refined low post moves. In limited minutes with extra weight he still put up big numbers against the elite level MCD competition--just imagine if he was in this shape, the hype wouldve been not stop, frankly he's a jewel, a guy I believe will be a 20-10-3 NBA C within 3 years for a LONG time and he will be able to help right away in year 1. hes still growing

what else do you want from a HS kid who really has progressed rapidly late in his hS career being a 17 YO senior.

I love it when I hear guys say take the best player availble , but really they wouldnt have a clue who that is because they dont follow HS or college athletics. they just read scouting reports on mocj draft sites and they know the next big thing because someone has told them!

Sorry dude, Bynum is a crown jewel of a prospect. really the odds of getting a prospect like this at 8 is unreal. if he went to uconn, he would be pick 1 in the draft in 2 years, there is little doubt in my mind. This is a 17 YO who took more responsibilty to lose the baby fat in three months than it takes PAID multi millionaire nBA players.

Sometimes people are so dumb that they could see gold in front of them and pooh pooh it as a choclate wrapper.
Im sorry kid, Ive probably watch more basketball in one year than you have seen in your entire life, I was playing college basketball when you were dunking your nerf in your diapers. My father was one of the best HS players EVER in the city of Brooklyn and a man by the name of Billy Cunningham would attest to that. Sorry kid, I know more basketball than you will ever know. the Knicks to me are more than passive entertainment, its been a part of my life since my dad started bringing me to the garden when i was 6. And I care about the Knicks well being as a person would care about anything they love. Yep, I love the Knicks, have for 30 years and want the best fo them. Call me crazy, but thats that. I feel great opportunity here for them, I know it, and I dont want the opportunity to pass us, all of us who care big fan small fan yadayada

If you're right in your assessment, then you are not alone and the scouts and GMs that get paid big bucks are going to know as well.

I'm sure Isiah will know to and if he can be picked at 8 or a trade is possible, he'll try.

If he is this good, doesn't that project out better than Bogut? And wouldn't Milwaukee be interested in a draft day trade then of Bynum, pick 30 this year and next years SA pick for Bogut?

In true stalker fashion, you fly into a violent rage as someone makes disparaging comparisons about Andrew Bynum. You probably broke your keyboard telling me your B-ball life story. Who the hell cares?

You had a good Daddy and I am happy for you. My Daddy took me to the garden too and I remember seeing Rory Sparrow play. My Daddy has a bigger dick than your daddy does. Does that sound ridiculous to you? Good, now you know how stupid you sound to me.

Posted by PooPooPrince:

If Bynum did manage to lose weight in such a short span it shows that there is a lot to his character, say he already shows flashs of decent post moves that is already a recipe of a decent big man,

At worse he turns into an Eddy Curry in three years time it's not such a bad pick at #8. There is always going to be a lot of choice at the 2-3-4 spot while agile 7 foot 300 pound centers don't come quite as often. Only Green has super star potential and that's not even guranteed either.


Now if bynum is really so great and u guys want him drafted then instead of venting your frustrations amongst one another, why don't you simply extend your views to a neigbourhood radio station.. or email msg whatever.. atleast there is a chance isiah would tune in and hear ya


There's isn't any legit big that will transform the knicks through free agency or trades without tampering with the roster, so why not take the risk? There isn't anoother big with so much potential coming out in the next few years, theres a chance they may instate the atleast 20 yrs old age under the new cba rules, This maybe one of the Knicks few chances to start rolling the dice.

really I rather pick a semi shaq potential than a semi shawn marion potential

yes size matters in most cases..


I really do not believe the Knicks organization right now is smart enough,and that primarily starts with the owner, who can always be the backround detrant for a move like that.

Lets think, Billy Knight flew in from Atlanta to NY, not a scout, the GM of the Hawks, the same guy who drafted Pau Gasol, Josh Smith and was able to clear the Hawks out in 2 years, who has Marvin williams or Bogut wrapped on a platter, with no more picks in the first round, why would he waste valuable time making a trip like that when all he has is pick #2? Why, after the workout, did Jerry West fly him in the day after?

the Knicks are an organization that will sell out everything young---we could give up for example Bynum at pick 8 Crawford Ariza sweetney for 30 yO Ray Allen and give him what he wants, an Allan houston contract, a true recipe fo disaster, try to sell it like Marbury and Allen will conquer the east, and we end up winning 38 games, having all sorts of chemistry and injury problems. does it sound familiar---Jagr? Mcdyess? Glenn Rice, Wayne Gretzky--its the same sht with the CVC corp owned team, just different stooges being paid a lot of money. Its a shame. I had hoped for some luck so that we would atleast get bogut, but it appears as if it's going to be another hijinx run around.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by joec32033:

Bonn, I actually agree with you about the flip side of Bynum at 8. I would prefer to only take Bynum if we can get a mid round pick (possibly by trading KT or Sweets) to get someone who is more ready to contribute now. Looking at all these reports on Bynum,I am getting more and more excited about him, but in all honesty, I think taking a wing player with the potential that a Graham has (I like him the most but you can throw in Wright and Possibly Granger)and have Craw at the position we were always meant to put him in, as a swing player off the bench, would almost be a necessity.

I wouldn't mind not taking Bynum also because there are alot of 7 footers available in this draft, that will be around later--Akindele, Luke form GT, Frye, Blatche. Players with this much hype come along every year.

But I also think Briggs has a point that this may be a huge chance to land a cornerstone.

I think this is what I would do--try to acquire a pick in the top 15 with a package of Sweets and KT or buying a pick--How about Sweets and KT to the Lakers for Divac, Medvedenko, Tony Bobbitt and the 10? Divac, Medvedenko and Bobbitt are all in the last years of their contracts. Cut Divac so he can return to the Lakers, Medvedenko may be a role player off the bench (6-10, 250), Bobbitt is trash. With the 8 draft Bynum, with the 10 draft Graham (GS will prbably take Frye, they have enough Swingmen)...At 30 take a PF (I say Turiaf), and at 54, take either Akindele for a project or Schenscher who may be a stop gap starter for us.

Schenscher(Akindele)/Bynum
Turiaf/Butler/JYD
TT/Trev/Malik
Graham (I still think he can be an Iggy like 2)/Craw
Marbury/Craw

[Edited by - joec32033 on 06/07/2005 11:29:19]

I think Bynum is being overstated and the reality is, taking him is a risk that may not pan out. But it is a typical hig risk/high reward scenario.

I don't thik that LA trade gets it done, but I would do it, Medvedenko aint bad, although i would prefer Mihm. But I would do it in a heartbeat for that pick and the space.

I like Graham myself and now that he has been impressive in workouts I like him even more.

Another problem is you are now talking about 4 players to be drafted, and 4 roster spots. Where do they come from? I don't think we need 4 picks, unless we are drafting a project to stay and develop somewhere.