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6/5/2005  11:56 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

It all looks good, we got to get the Bynum chant going come draft night.
My feedback is that he has the BIGGEST upside of anyone in this draft.
Okay BRIGGS, I just got to ask...if we're approaching this draft with long term plans, do you take Bynum over Bogut?

. Bogut is the only ready made, ready to go impact type player at the 5 in the draft. I love Bogut, more than most people, I think hes going to be great. Like i said yesterday, there is 100 miles between pick 1 and pick 8. I would take Bogut at number 1 and I would take Bynum at 8 but ultimately both guys have HUGE potential to be 20-10 players. I think bynum will be a bigger defensive force due to his unusually long arms with his height and frame.
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6/5/2005  12:09 PM
Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.
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6/5/2005  12:18 PM
Lets be positive here! We have a great chance of landing him with our pick. There are very good guys already proyected to go over him and I don't think that will change a lot because teams know their needs. Toronto hasn't made the best picks in past drafts. I would follow djsunyc idea of promising him to be picked at 8th and shut down workouts.

We need a break somewhere, and Bynum might be that one...
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6/5/2005  12:21 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.



I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.



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6/5/2005  12:23 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.



I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.


Thats easy to say BRIGGS but now that the word is out he is thining bigger and better things like top 4 pick. You think his agent would pass on the bucks. He is gonna show everyone and you know what he is definitely going to be gone by the time the Knicks pick.
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6/5/2005  12:30 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.

Sad but true... Messing up this pick could do it to me...
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6/5/2005  12:32 PM
Another vision.

Bynum to Atlanta at No. 2. The two Josh's with Bynum at the 5. Watch out in 2 years.

I'm trying to be positve here Knicksfan.....just finding it...difficult
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6/5/2005  12:45 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Another vision.

Bynum to Atlanta at No. 2. The two Josh's with Bynum at the 5. Watch out in 2 years.

I'm trying to be positve here Knicksfan.....just finding it...difficult

Man! Want me to buy you new eyeglasses?!? I hate your visions!

We have enough negativity with our management. Lets at least us fans hope and pray for the best. I have no difficulty imagining Bynum selected by NY. I like that vision: With the 8th pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks select Andrew Bynum from NJ HS . Join me!

Now, if that doesn't happen, I might have to think about changing my nickname...
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6/5/2005  12:47 PM
I mean, we wil probably never suck bad ebough to get the #1 and this kid is gonna be at least a top 3 next year and probably a lock for #1 if he does 2 years at uconn. It is in our best long-term interests to draft him. Pick this guy up and make strong moves for Jerome James, Steven Hunter or Big Z. We can take care of our long-term and shor-term needs that way.
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6/5/2005  1:01 PM
the Ny Knicks are to stupid. Look at the deals we have made over the last 5 years. I dont believe the people in charge are smart enough. Like I said, Sweetney Ariza dn pick 8 to for dampier or Artest--thats the kind of deal they know,
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6/5/2005  2:24 PM
To be honest, I don't see any teams above us taking him.

I figure it goes something like this:

1. Bucks - M Williams
2. Hawks - Boigut
3. Blaze - I think they'll trade down, but C Paul goes here
4. Hornets - D Williams
5. Bobcats - Gerald Green or Ray Felton
6. Jazz - Green, Felton or Antoine Wright
7. Raptors - Danny Granger or Antoine Wright (I don't think the Raptors take a HS center a year after Araujo and with a roster full of huge holes)
8. Knicks - Bynum
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6/5/2005  2:27 PM
Posted by purple012870:

To be honest, I don't see any teams above us taking him.

I figure it goes something like this:

1. Bucks - M Williams
2. Hawks - Boigut
3. Blaze - I think they'll trade down, but C Paul goes here
4. Hornets - D Williams
5. Bobcats - Gerald Green or Ray Felton
6. Jazz - Green, Felton or Antoine Wright
7. Raptors - Danny Granger or Antoine Wright (I don't think the Raptors take a HS center a year after Araujo and with a roster full of huge holes)
8. Knicks - Bynum

That looks fine to me, but why would the Bucks take M. Williams instead of Bogut?
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6/5/2005  2:43 PM
Purple, you see the Raptors passing on Bynum because of the Araujo pick? I'm having trouble agreeing with you. If an organization has an opportunity to correct a perceived error that quickly I can guarantee that they do it. Look, Araujo will at the very least be a backup that can give a few fouls. You don't pass on a kid like Bynum because of the pick the year before. Bynum is upside galore. I hope i'm wrong and you're right. God i'd love to be totally wrong about Toronto in this situation. But...

Knicksfan, help.....where are those glasses you mentioned. I CAN'T SEEEEEEEE I got linamnet in my eyes (ala Ali vs Liston fight)
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6/5/2005  2:57 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Purple, you see the Raptors passing on Bynum because of the Araujo pick? I'm having trouble agreeing with you. If an organization has an opportunity to correct a perceived error that quickly I can guarantee that they do it. Look, Araujo will at the very least be a backup that can give a few fouls. You don't pass on a kid like Bynum because of the pick the year before. Bynum is upside galore. I hope i'm wrong and you're right. God i'd love to be totally wrong about Toronto in this situation. But...

Knicksfan, help.....where are those glasses you mentioned. I CAN'T SEEEEEEEE I got linamnet in my eyes (ala Ali vs Liston fight)


well it does stink that we just HAD to lose that leverage in the draft over less than 2 minutes of basketball. BUT I will still agree that Toronto did take a C last year who is huge at 8 and I think they want a PG or SG. they do have Pape Sow and Arajuo, so I think they are set at 5 in terms of allocating project players. Now I believe that Andrew should be able to play limited minutes in year 1, with his rapid devlopment,become a bench impact player in y2 and start in y3 at age 20. thats been the ticket for many younger players, but the difference is Andrew is a beheamoth, so he will have an advantage and if he realizes he is bigger and stronger than everyone quickly, watch out.


what i would personaly do is offer him pick 8 today and tell him no more workouts. pick 8 is great for andrew--he stays near his family and without further workouts puts pressure on the other teams. One thing is these other teams dont have all the established players like the knicks


but still in the end game we will do something stupid. maybe well get fran vazquez--can you imagine draft night if they announced that name. who cares, the people running the knicks have an IQ of 5
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6/5/2005  7:50 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.



I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.
How do you know the Knicks didn't talk to him and he simply thought he could go higher than 8 or simply doesn't want to play in NY? I'm not saying that did happen. It probably did not, but I don't like to make assumptions.
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6/6/2005  7:05 AM
If Atlanta doesn't get him at #2 we've got a shot. If you look at the courant photos (#3 & #5)you can see Atlanta's GM, Billy Knight sitting in a grey suit checking him out. He's on the radar big time and I don't blame him. Anyway, let's hope it works out for the Knicks.
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6/6/2005  8:47 AM
JUNKMEIN I agree with you- i don't see him lasting to 8. BUT - I also think one or more of the other bigs are going to rise up high before the draft and we're going to get one of them and be very happy with him. Not to mention grabbing another good big at 30.
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6/6/2005  10:14 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.



I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.
No offense Briggs, but if you think either one of those guys were capable of running a draft room you are insane. Grunfeld threw picks away like it was silly string and let's not forget Checketts signed off on Fredrick Weis, the Ewing trade, bringing in Nelly, and about some other stinkers that Ewing was able to cover up. Ask Riley what he thinks about those two running a team. As much flap Ewing took no one actually knew how much he was able to make s$it look good.
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6/6/2005  10:30 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Fellas, I got a bad feeling that just hit me. This dude ain't gonna be there at 8. I'll fold my post into this thread. Andrew, you guys can delete the ESPN thread if you want to.

Okay, smart young man and an even smarter older brother. I've worked with young people for sometime now and I think i've got a pretty good feel for if a kid has a head on his or her shoulders or not. Bynum is a very intelligent young man and it's obvious from how he talks. Just totally backing up what Briggs has been saying about Calhoun's impression of him. In this case I think the mental aspect is at minimum 50% of that battle and he's got that covered with a snap.
Physically, he's obviously lost quite a bit of weight even since the MCD game. The kid's got great form on his jumper and can get up and down the court like.....and I know i'm tripping here ...like Ewing....I know...i'm back now . He's on the weights and has a sweet looking baby hook. Bottom line, he's a stud and if he's there at 8 we got our 5. 8 to 5. Go get'em Isiah.



I would've already shut him down if I were the Knicks. Say, here kid, here is pick 8 now keep working out and shut up. Nope not the stupid Knicks, we havent had a smart man run the Knicks since Grunfeld and Chekkettes left.
No offense Briggs, but if you think either one of those guys were capable of running a draft room you are insane. Grunfeld threw picks away like it was silly string and let's not forget Checketts signed off on Fredrick Weis, the Ewing trade, bringing in Nelly, and about some other stinkers that Ewing was able to cover up. Ask Riley what he thinks about those two running a team. As much flap Ewing took no one actually knew how much he was able to make s$it look good.
well-said; and let's not forget that Checkets signed off on Fred Weiss when a 20 PPG player who would win a defensive player of the year award was still available (Ron Artest). Drafting Ariza at #43 was probably more impressive than anything Checkets, Grunfeld, or Layden ever did in the NBA draft.
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6/6/2005  10:33 AM
I think now it's a question of whether Bynum is there for us. I don't think Toronto or Utah are threats to take him, but they are threats to trade to someone like the Lakers. I also think New Orleans and Charlotte have to be considered threats to draft him.

Man, it'd be great to get this kid. I would have faith again. He's no Oden, but he can be special.
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