Posted by fishmike:

so you would rather have Nick Collison over Elton Brand? Who is playing center for the Pistons? Pretty sure he's 6'8.
YES.. we absolutely need size and a LOT of it, but we also need talented guys we can build around and right now we dont have one frontcourt player that qualifies there. Now if Bynum is the good then great! Where do I sign?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

so you would rather have Nick Collison over Elton Brand? Who is playing center for the Pistons? Pretty sure he's 6'8.
YES.. we absolutely need size and a LOT of it, but we also need talented guys we can build around and right now we dont have one frontcourt player that qualifies there. Now if Bynum is the good then great! Where do I sign?

Comparing anyone to Ben Wallace is a misnomer. Sweetney is 6'8" too. He has a 7'4" wing span and he can't block shots and he looks tiny in the post.

Posted by diderotn:

I have confidence in Isiah drafting also, but in the token, Isiah is not dumb to know that he already have 6 PFs on the roster currently, and chances are that he may not be able to move any of them. Nothing is a given in this league...Isiah has been trying to move Kurt for ever, but Kurt is still in town. what makes you think that he will be able to move anyone at this point??? look, none of the guys that you have mentioned have the hype like Lebron or the young kid Josh Howard and Okafor did, so there is no rush or need to draft another PF as far as I am concerned, especially if the guy is not 6'10" or taller. If he is 6'10 OR TALLER, I won't give a damn whether or not he is a PF or Center, because as you can see, Amare is currently playing out of position, that is until they can find a Center that will come in and play the position. They are developing the young Hunter, but he is probably a year away...Next season, if Hunter is re-signed, he will be the Center of that team....

Posted by fishmike:

more than a PR nightmare than losing 50 games with a $110mm plus payroll?

I agree, but I do have more confidence in someone like Isiah than I would a Layden to go make some deals that help balance the roster. He would probably overpay, but I suspect if he drafted a guy like Ike or Simien it would be
a) because they were lights out in workouts and measured well (6'10 or a 7'5 wingspan type numbers)
and b) with the intention of creating playing time for that player. Simien reminds me of a young Antonio Davis, who was a real horse for a long time. I only saw Ike once he looked a lot like Ben Wallace with borderline 3 point range on the jumper and no fear scoring.

If I'm building a team Ariza, Diogu and Nate Robinson arent bad pieces to have.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

so you would rather have Nick Collison over Elton Brand? Who is playing center for the Pistons? Pretty sure he's 6'8.
YES.. we absolutely need size and a LOT of it, but we also need talented guys we can build around and right now we dont have one frontcourt player that qualifies there. Now if Bynum is the good then great! Where do I sign?

Comparing anyone to Ben Wallace is a misnomer. Sweetney is 6'8" too. He has a 7'4" wing span and he can't block shots and he looks tiny in the post.

He has a 7'0" wing span. It's smaller than most PFs and even smaller than Ariza's.

what are you talking about?

here's an article from Chicago:
Mike Sweetney also helped himself. For big men, teams
look at standing reach. Despite measuring just
6-foot-8 with shoes, Sweetney's standing reach was
just a hair under nine feet. That puts him in the same
category with Bosh. In other words, like Elton Brand,
Sweetney will be able to play "taller" than he
actually is.

http://www.igtc.com/archives/celtics/2003/Jun/msg00254.html

edit:

here's another article which claims it is 7'2":
3. Michael Sweetney, Georgetown*
The line: 6-8, 260, Junior
The skinny: Sweetney's a beast in the paint. He averaged 22.8 points and 10.4 rebounds on 55 percent shooting this season for the Hoyas. Sweetney is comfortable playing with his back to the basket and often evokes comparisons to Elton Brand. His other big plus is that he gets to the free throw line and actually makes his shots. Sweetney averaged almost 10 free-throw attempts per game this season and shot 74 percent from the line. The downside is that he's not a great athlete, and most scouts feel he's a bit undersized to play the position. His 7-foot-2 wingspan helps things a bit. He could go as high as No. 8 to the Bucks or as low as No. 12 to the Sonics.

edit2:
no argument that it's smaller than Ariza's. I think Ariza is the guy with the 7'4" wingspan I was thinking of. But 7'2" for Sweets isn't bad. My point was, even WITH a great wingspan, he isn't a very good shotblocker in the NBA. Sometimes wingspan isn't everything.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 06/02/2005 12:54:28]

[Edited by - crzymdups on 06/02/2005 12:55:55]