I think Zeke watched Kwame deal on us--i think he was 8-8 at one stretch----the MLE is going to come down in years--likely from 6 to probably 4.

Teams were out there willing to risk 4 years on zo with the MLE and he was a shell of himself with huge risk. Granted Zo and Kwame are two different types of people.

IF kwame, PHYSICALLY is fine with his ankle--taking Kwame out and putting him through a tough off season regimen where he gets in 115% shape--written into the contract, I believe with our vets and especially Marbury and Crawford's willingness to pass the ball, could be a tremendous effect on how this guy plays. I would fit him in for a 24 minute role as C, either starting or of the bench. I think that if Kwame is with guys who ar a bit older, more mature, away from washington, I think hes got a real good chance to be a fine player, a real helper and I think the MLE is a reasonable price compared to other MLEs in the last few years. Detroit took Billups when teams thought he was awful, and look how it turned out. there arent many guys with Kwame s potnetial--with the money we spend, 5mm represents less than 1/20 of payroll


for guys saying chris andersen MLE--give me a break. Id rather spend the money on Kwame and have him bust than give it to a true role player, that is insane.

I think Kwame+ mature structured envitonment+hard physical offseason training wise+ NY Knick fundamentals--Mark Aquire Herb,Isiah, I think we could really have something. I think giving Kwame a solid second chance is a worthy risk. you are NOT getting him for a discount to the MLE, someone will step up, it's who steps up first.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Im going against the grain here.

Day 1 FA
FULL MLE to Kwame Brown, Isiah on his doorstep with a limo to take him to nY for a night on the town.

We have reclimated players into stars--namely Antony Mason and John Starks.

at these $ 5mm per Kwame Brown is the best RISK reward play and its certain Wash will not match.

If he busts or just stay sat the level of 12 points 8 reb, you get a very fair deal. If they can somehow get everything out of him, you just stole a prize. NO reward comes with no risk

I didn't see your topic Briggs before I posted mine. You actually sold me on getting Brown.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think Zeke watched Kwame deal on us--i think he was 8-8 at one stretch----the MLE is going to come down in years--likely from 6 to probably 4.

Teams were out there willing to risk 4 years on zo with the MLE and he was a shell of himself with huge risk. Granted Zo and Kwame are two different types of people.

IF kwame, PHYSICALLY is fine with his ankle--taking Kwame out and putting him through a tough off season regimen where he gets in 115% shape--written into the contract, I believe with our vets and especially Marbury and Crawford's willingness to pass the ball, could be a tremendous effect on how this guy plays. I would fit him in for a 24 minute role as C, either starting or of the bench. I think that if Kwame is with guys who ar a bit older, more mature, away from washington, I think hes got a real good chance to be a fine player, a real helper and I think the MLE is a reasonable price compared to other MLEs in the last few years. Detroit took Billups when teams thought he was awful, and look how it turned out. there arent many guys with Kwame s potnetial--with the money we spend, 5mm represents less than 1/20 of payroll


for guys saying chris andersen MLE--give me a break. Id rather spend the money on Kwame and have him bust than give it to a true role player, that is insane.

I think Kwame+ mature structured envitonment+hard physical offseason training wise+ NY Knick fundamentals--Mark Aquire Herb,Isiah, I think we could really have something. I think giving Kwame a solid second chance is a worthy risk. you are NOT getting him for a discount to the MLE, someone will step up, it's who steps up first.

Chris Anderson? And most of you guys were killing Isiah for Vin Baker, at least Baker was an all-star once. This guy highest point is being selected for the dunk contest to show off his spike hair.

I like Steven Hunter for the MLE more than Chris Anderson, but I'd take Kwame of either of them. As TMS suggested, a Kurt for Kwame trade would be ideal because then we still have the full MLE.

Posted by franco12:

I had posted to another Kwame thread that the key here is setting expectations.

If you expect Kwame to come in and give you 12 & 5- great- don't expect him to come in and give 15 & 9.

He put up 11/7 two years ago with a PG not as good as Marbury. If he's physically healthy and given consistent minutes, I think he can do better than 11/7.
It would be nice to know more about the reasons why the Wizards suspended him, though.

Don't underestimate the Birdman. Andersen put up an outstanding 18.5 PER this past season. That compares favorably with Dan Gadzuric (18.5), Camby (18.4), and Kenyon Martin (17.9). His career PER numbers are 13.8, 14.0, 14.4, 18.5. Compare with Hunter's: 12.9, 13.4, 11.2, 14.7. Hunter's breakout performance this season is not much better than what Andersen has been doing his whole career before his own breakout season. IF Andersen could keep up that 18.5 PER from here on out, he'd be a worthy target for the full MLE. Hunter would be a big reach for the full MLE, especially since his improvement probably has a lot to do with the unique opportunities he gets in Phoenix's hectic system.

As for Kwame, his career PERs are 11.2, 13.6, 15.7, and 10.4. He had a decent 03/04 season, but otherwise has been a dud. But yeah, I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on him. The way Layden left things, we almost have to take on big risks if we're going to have any chance at improving significantly in the immediate future.

Posted by Rich:

I would take Kwame over Big Z because at least Kwame has a chance to be the kind of athletic big man we need. Big Z is a plodder who will begin to decline soon.

Or has already begun to decline...that team had both Z and Lebron and didn't make the playoffs.

I'd prefer Kwame at this point...he seems to just be fed up with washington. He's a kid, and if they can make sweetney this good, I'm sure we can make Kwame that good.

Great starting center by mid season.

Moving Thomas, while in my mind is still kind of 6 in one hand half dozen in the other, would open it up for Sweets to start and change our offense a bit from the predict-able and roll, to more post up style and penetrate and dish.

How's Kwame's defense?

Posted by franco12:

maybe Kwame is pulling a vince carter just to get out of DC.

that would be moronic of him to do in his contract year, wouldn't you think? Vince already had a guaranteed big money contract in place.