Posted by OldFan:

Silver - do you think maybe Houston talked to his own doctors? Do you know anything about any of the doctors or what they recommended other then what you've read? Have the knick doctors or team doctors never been wrong? When you make your medical decisions do you ever think of getting second opinions and taking the advice that makes the most sense to you? The fact is you have very little knowledge about what Houston was told by different doctors or why he made the decision he did outside of what you've read written by reporters - who probably didn't have most of the facts either. For you decide he made the wrong decision based on what you know is a bit presumptious. (Sorry about the disgraceful remark.)

All I heard over the radio all last summer was that Houston didnt take the doctors advice. If you are going to say, "Oh you dont know enough about the situation, maybe he did talk to multiple doctors" then you are basically saying you cannot point a finger at any players because you dont know the whole deal with them. Have you ever said anything bad about Tim Thomas? Because he might be injured or severly affected by his sisters death. You dont know, you should talk about his game because you dont know how bad its affected it! You are also going on what you know, hear or see on game or in the game.

We always go on what we are told on TV and in the paper. For you to tell me not to bring up Houston's injury because "maybe" I dont know enough makes no sense. I could make a case that you shouldnt ever talk ill about any Knick player because you have no idea where they are mentally or what part of their body is sore.

Kurt Thomas missed a jumpshot because he got into a really bad fight with his wife and/or he just found out his 8 year olf son smokes pot! Maybe he found out that his neighbor smuggles sex slaves from a different country on a boat and it really bothered him. I or you or the media never I have the whole story. I/You have to assume that we have the whole story.

If Houston listened to his doctor and they told him to talk to a high jumper, he should relize by now the doctor was wrong. If he wants to play 70-80 games, dont you seriously think that all the other advice he got from "his doctors" was faulty?! Dont you think its time for him to rehab in a different way or choose surgery?

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by OldFan:

Silver - do you think maybe Houston talked to his own doctors? Do you know anything about any of the doctors or what they recommended other then what you've read? Have the knick doctors or team doctors never been wrong? When you make your medical decisions do you ever think of getting second opinions and taking the advice that makes the most sense to you? The fact is you have very little knowledge about what Houston was told by different doctors or why he made the decision he did outside of what you've read written by reporters - who probably didn't have most of the facts either. For you decide he made the wrong decision based on what you know is a bit presumptious. (Sorry about the disgraceful remark.)

All I heard over the radio all last summer was that Houston didnt take the doctors advice. If you are going to say, "Oh you dont know enough about the situation, maybe he did talk to multiple doctors" then you are basically saying you cannot point a finger at any players because you dont know the whole deal with them. Have you ever said anything bad about Tim Thomas? Because he might be injured or severly affected by his sisters death. You dont know, you should talk about his game because you dont know how bad its affected it! You are also going on what you know, hear or see on game or in the game.

We always go on what we are told on TV and in the paper. For you to tell me not to bring up Houston's injury because "maybe" I dont know enough makes no sense. I could make a case that you shouldnt ever talk ill about any Knick player because you have no idea where they are mentally or what part of their body is sore.

Kurt Thomas missed a jumpshot because he got into a really bad fight with his wife and/or he just found out his 8 year olf son smokes pot! Maybe he found out that his neighbor smuggles sex slaves from a different country on a boat and it really bothered him. I or you or the media never I have the whole story. I/You have to assume that we have the whole story.

If Houston listened to his doctor and they told him to talk to a high jumper, he should relize by now the doctor was wrong. If he wants to play 70-80 games, dont you seriously think that all the other advice he got from "his doctors" was faulty?! Dont you think its time for him to rehab in a different way or choose surgery?

I can comment about a players on court play because I can evaluate that both directly and indirectly from (2nd hand source)sources who have seen them play. Off court - I can't sit in on Alan talking to his doctors and reporters aren't sitting in either so at best you're getting third hand information. So your information is much more indirect - and hence less reliable.

I can comment on TT not shooting well or not giving a good effort because I can see it. OR at least read 2nd hand accounts from multiple sources. And yes my information is still limited but hey it's a sports forum. I tend not to comment as much on off the court stuff - especially when I do not direct or even a second hand source. I mean talk radio (probably the least reliable of all new sources) is your best source and you feel you know what Houston should have done?

I think modern science doesn't have any 100% answers on knee surgery at this point and that as a human being you have to decide what you think is best for your career and your life in general. Some guys do fine with surgery's others don't. I don't think anyone can say he should have done this or that, becuase nothing was a guarantee. Maybe he's scared? I'd love to see him play again, but I'd have to say he knows better than us or a Dr. how his knee feels and how it ought to feel when healthy.

I have no doubt that he has researched every option available and that he is making the decision he thinks will be best. He is a professional basketball player who played well for his entire career, I can only think he is making the decision that he thinks will allow him to play again.

I think I can use a newspaper article/sports show as a source and make comments. If an article says he should've gone into surgery so can I. I see your point though. It is for him to decide since its his knee.

Posted by Killa4luv:

I have no doubt that he has researched every option available and that he is making the decision he thinks will be best. He is a professional basketball player who played well for his entire career, I can only think he is making the decision that he thinks will allow him to play again.

I have no problem with that. He can try anything he wants that he believes will be best for him. I just think it is time for him to realize that the high jumper wasnt helping him much. Time for Plan B.

Isn't his knee now arthritic?

And, isn't there basically no cure for that?

I think you can say that if he had had an option for surgery, he should have taken it- because, the alternative he choose hans't worked- the proof is there. He is not playing, and no one has commented on when he is coming back.

Now, had he had the surgery, he might be in the same boat, unable to return.

Wasn't reggie a free agent the same year we first signed Houston? And didn't reggie at least flirt with signing with the knicks to up the contract he got from the pacers?

Funny that Reggie, older than allan, has been more durable.

Does anyone know where allan is? We need to stick a fork in him- He's done!!!!!!!!!!

he'll also be 40!

I believe the Knicks did go after Reggie and he turned us down. So they had to choose between either Steve Smith or Allan Houston. They chose Allan. Good choice.