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Who is our best shooter?
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Silverfuel
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3/25/2005  4:44 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

This is almost as silly as Silverfeul saying that Houston wasn't one of the best shooters in the NBA.
It is almost as silly is as you bringing me into a totally unrelated situation. Also just as silly as you using my "not one of the best shooters" out of context. Try and refrain from stupid potshots that are uncalled for. Next time bring proof of your "one of the best shooters" crap before you call me silly!

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3/25/2005  4:47 PM
he can shoot but it takes more than that to be considered a good shooter. He's not going to be open for 48mins a game and he can't free himself up when the defense picks up. So his spot up shot is not effective. which is why he bricks so many 4th quarter shots.

Houston is a good shoot. not a phenomenal shooter but a pretty good one against bad teams and bad defenders.

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3/25/2005  4:51 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

he can shoot but it takes more than that to be considered a good shooter.
I agree. There is some uncertainty about what makes a person a good shooter and what doesnt. The definitions differ from person to person but one thing is for sure,
--- if you are playing in the NBA and you consistently fail during pressure situations, you cannot be considered a good shooter.

That might not translate to KT.
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3/25/2005  4:59 PM
Houston could get a shot off with a defender on his face unlike Kurt Thomas. but like Silver has said before, a lot of times Kurt Thomas was the one taking the last shot because Houston doesn't move well without ball often could not get open like a great shooter like Reggie Miller, rip hamilton, ray allen can so the ball winds up in Kurt's hand for many last second bricks
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3/25/2005  5:12 PM
allan houston is the best shooter on this team, even with a bum knee. he can create his own shot and make it. thats why if he was healthy the knicks would be a threat be cause teams couldnt run and double steph.
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3/25/2005  5:49 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

allan houston is the best shooter on this team, even with a bum knee. he can create his own shot and make it. thats why if he was healthy the knicks would be a threat be cause teams couldnt run and double steph.
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3/25/2005  7:53 PM
I assume we're talking about who the best jump shooters are, right? OK, this shouldn't be too hard to settle. Let's wander down to 82games.com...

The following is a list of players on the roster, ranked according to their eFG% on jump shots. (eFG% basically takes the extra point from a 3 pointer into account, instead of tracking a separate stat for 3FG%... so if you shoot 2-6 from 3, you wind up getting 6 points on 6 shots. To get 6 points on 6 shots shooting 2 pointers, you'd need to go 3-6, or shoot 50%. So the eFG% for going 2-6 from downtown is 50%.) I'm leaving off Butler and Jackson, since they've barely seen any action. The format is Player - eFG% on jump shots - % of FGAs that are jump shots

1) Houston - .490 - 98%
2) Taylor - .478 - 51%
3) Marbury - .466 - 63%
4) KT - .462 - 90%
5) Crawford - .459 - 86%
6) TT - .459 - 71%
7) Penny - .428 - 83%
8) JYD - .375 - 36%
9) Sundov - .371 - 84%
10) Rose - .341 - 58%
11) Sweetney - .327 - 34%
12) Ariza - .311 - 53%

A couple of things to notice. For one, Mo T has been a surprisingly accurate jump shooter this season. However, he hasn't attempted many FGAs, and only about half of those come on jumpers. Basically, it looks like Mo T picks his spots well, which helps out his eFG% a lot.

Also, TT's eFG% on jumpers is hurt a lot by his early season struggles. Even with that big handicap, he's elevated his eFG% to a respectable level with his positively outstanding shooting since roughly around with trade deadline. By way of comparison, last year he shot a .471 eFG% on his jumpers, which constituted 74% of his attempts. If we take this into account, TT's rank jumps up a fair bit.

So let's remove Houston from the discussion, since he hasn't been much of a presence this season. Part of being a great jump shooter is presumably shooting lots of jump shots, both in terms of % of your shots attempted on jumpers and raw number of jumpers attempted, which hurts Mo T's standing a bit. From the above considerations, using a rough, by eye judgment of the numbers, I'd say TT is out best shooter, KT and JC are roughly tied for second, Marbs is third, Taylor is fourth. But it's pretty close. No one out of TT, KT, JC, and Marbs really stands out.
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3/26/2005  2:24 PM
TT our best shooter? did any of you watch him launching up those bricks last night?
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3/26/2005  2:28 PM
Posted by TMS:

TT our best shooter? did any of you watch him launching up those bricks last night?

agreed. Thats why its sad that he's our best shooter. Marbury and Kurt were launching bricks to and Crawford was launching off-balanced layups!

Bottomline is we don't hae a shooter, we dont have a SG and we dont have a Center
Who is our best shooter?

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