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gunsnewing
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3/1/2005  3:26 PM
Sidney is an incredible revolutary actor. I remember being shown one of his movies in high school but the fact that he brought up Sidney Poitiergoes to show how out of touch they are. there hasn't been any other good black actors since?!! give me a break!

I like Morgan Freedman he finally one an Oscar, well deserved!
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3/1/2005  3:30 PM
Posted by MX25:

My big problem with Isiah on Mike and Mad Dog is that when Mike or Chris ask Isiah a question , Isiah rarely answers there questions. He goes back to "Expiring deals and Draft Picks"

I'm sorry but the whole 2 1st rounder thing is such a BS excuse for taking on Rose terrible deal. Big deal he has the last pick in 1st round. People act like he got 2 lottery picks.

What would you want..Suns and Spurs first rounds or Clippers 1st rounder in 06??

Alot of people's main problems with Isiah is that he says something and then does the opposite.

When he got the job and dealt for Marbury. He said giving up 1st rounder meant nothing cause he didn't wanna build thru the draft cause it's a crapshoot. Now suddenly when his team is losing he does a 180 and says how he wants to build thru the draft.

Last Summer when he gets crawford he says how the team is ready to contend in the east. When team sucks he does a 180 and says how it will take 4-5 years to rebuild.

Isiah is a flip flopper and people know it and when he says he had a plan when he got here and is still using it people get mad cause they see thru it.
I doubt Isiah's planning to build through the draft. I think he views the draft picks as trade assets that can be combined with expiring contracts to pull off more Marbury-type deals. We'll have to wait and see, though.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/01/2005 15:31:01]
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3/1/2005  3:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by gunsnewing:

the callers who are calling up certainly don't help. I wish people from here got through

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/01/2005 14:08:13]

I find that many people seem to go along with what they are saying. It would be better to have a segment where they are just asking what is going on, where they are moving towards, what these players are like..etc.. instead of having to hardball every single time. I think there was a lot of dissapointment with this season, I think TT did not perform at a level which we needed which hurt the team. I think they made a mistake going after Lenny, but most of all, I think they became prisoners of their own hype--all ball etc.... we will win the atlantic. I think that Isiah scored pretty dm hard here at the deadline. There is still work to be done, no doubt about--an exciting draft and perhaps 1-2 vet moves and some kind of ending with Allan and perhaps moving on with Penny in one more ending contract move[steve francis or a Mike Finley for a back up vet-vet trade? ending contracts?]

The worst thing about them, which other professionals do point out, is how wrong they always are. Dog nevers gets a prediction right, he is clueless. I sometimes wonder how he got where he was. Mike only credibility was that he was friends with Parcells, now that is fading like Parcells legacy with every Super Bowl win by Patriots.
1)They both loved the Mcdyess trade, both said those guys drafted were not quality guys like Mcdyess, yet Nene goes on to have a nice career so far, Butler is damn good, and Stoudamire is an all-star. Their response "everyone wanted to make that trade. besides you did not know about Nene, and Stoudamire."
2)When Shandon Anderson was with the Jazz, Mike said the Knicks had to get this guy no matter what. He went on about Anderson like, he was the second coming, paying tribute to Layden. He doesn't remember when a caller reminded him.
3)And the best one was Nick Collison, Mike dismissed Sweetney as nothing compared to Nick Collison, oh well...
Someone ask Dog if Frank Williams will be better than Marbury. Those guys are jokes. Joe B, used to be good but has sold out to conform.
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3/1/2005  3:33 PM
Posted by MX25:

My big problem with Isiah on Mike and Mad Dog is that when Mike or Chris ask Isiah a question , Isiah rarely answers there questions. He goes back to "Expiring deals and Draft Picks"

I'm sorry but the whole 2 1st rounder thing is such a BS excuse for taking on Rose terrible deal. Big deal he has the last pick in 1st round. People act like he got 2 lottery picks.

What would you want..Suns and Spurs first rounds or Clippers 1st rounder in 06??

Alot of people's main problems with Isiah is that he says something and then does the opposite.

When he got the job and dealt for Marbury. He said giving up 1st rounder meant nothing cause he didn't wanna build thru the draft cause it's a crapshoot. Now suddenly when his team is losing he does a 180 and says how he wants to build thru the draft.

Last Summer when he gets crawford he says how the team is ready to contend in the east. When team sucks he does a 180 and says how it will take 4-5 years to rebuild.

Isiah is a flip flopper and people know it and when he says he had a plan when he got here and is still using it people get mad cause they see thru it.

I guess you miss Scott Layden then. At least Isiah recognizes his mistakes and gets rid of them! Every GM makes mistakes!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/01/2005 15:34:14]
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3/1/2005  3:45 PM
Posted by MX25:

My big problem with Isiah on Mike and Mad Dog is that when Mike or Chris ask Isiah a question , Isiah rarely answers there questions. He goes back to "Expiring deals and Draft Picks"

I'm sorry but the whole 2 1st rounder thing is such a BS excuse for taking on Rose terrible deal. Big deal he has the last pick in 1st round. People act like he got 2 lottery picks.

What would you want..Suns and Spurs first rounds or Clippers 1st rounder in 06??

Alot of people's main problems with Isiah is that he says something and then does the opposite.

When he got the job and dealt for Marbury. He said giving up 1st rounder meant nothing cause he didn't wanna build thru the draft cause it's a crapshoot. Now suddenly when his team is losing he does a 180 and says how he wants to build thru the draft.

Last Summer when he gets crawford he says how the team is ready to contend in the east. When team sucks he does a 180 and says how it will take 4-5 years to rebuild.

Isiah is a flip flopper and people know it and when he says he had a plan when he got here and is still using it people get mad cause they see thru it.

Are you paying Rose's contract? What do you care, Rose contract is not bloated as compared to Houston. Who is the real problem no one wants to talk about. You are paying max money to a guy who doesn't take the floor. Yeah I feel bad for Isiah, he was suckered into thinking he could build around Marbury and Houston, no one knew Houston would now have a bum knee, hell that changes alot. And btw, ask the Clippers what they think of all their picks. The Bulls, and Clippers have had multiple lottery picks recently, I am anxious to watch the Bulls maybe make the playoffs for the first time in 7 years.
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3/1/2005  4:04 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by MX25:

My big problem with Isiah on Mike and Mad Dog is that when Mike or Chris ask Isiah a question , Isiah rarely answers there questions. He goes back to "Expiring deals and Draft Picks"

I'm sorry but the whole 2 1st rounder thing is such a BS excuse for taking on Rose terrible deal. Big deal he has the last pick in 1st round. People act like he got 2 lottery picks.

What would you want..Suns and Spurs first rounds or Clippers 1st rounder in 06??

Alot of people's main problems with Isiah is that he says something and then does the opposite.

When he got the job and dealt for Marbury. He said giving up 1st rounder meant nothing cause he didn't wanna build thru the draft cause it's a crapshoot. Now suddenly when his team is losing he does a 180 and says how he wants to build thru the draft.

Last Summer when he gets crawford he says how the team is ready to contend in the east. When team sucks he does a 180 and says how it will take 4-5 years to rebuild.

Isiah is a flip flopper and people know it and when he says he had a plan when he got here and is still using it people get mad cause they see thru it.

Are you paying Rose's contract? What do you care, Rose contract is not bloated as compared to Houston. Who is the real problem no one wants to talk about. You are paying max money to a guy who doesn't take the floor. Yeah I feel bad for Isiah, he was suckered into thinking he could build around Marbury and Houston, no one knew Houston would now have a bum knee, hell that changes alot. And btw, ask the Clippers what they think of all their picks. The Bulls, and Clippers have had multiple lottery picks recently, I am anxious to watch the Bulls maybe make the playoffs for the first time in 7 years.

My point with clippers picks vs spurs/suns pick is that you rather have top 6 pick or the last pick in 1st round.
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3/1/2005  4:06 PM
GUns, no offense but i don't see what is the problem that you may have with Mike and Mad Dog.

When they criticized Scott Layden, i bet you was all smiles but when they criticize Isiah Thomas now you are in an uproar

but why

Isiah is very similar to the mindboggling deals that Layden pulled. You know the "there has to be another trade coming after this trade" trade.

i'm optimistic because i have no choice but to be as i am sure you are, also but at the same time i can admit to myself that taking on contracts for a losing team is "besides the point" of getting two draft picks.

does that make him a good GM cause he got two draft picks with his longer contracts? if someone would take allan houston contract would that make them a good GM if the knicks gave them a draft pick with it

i doubt it

mo taylor to the knicks serves zero purpose. you can't even spin that to make sense if you or anyone tried

malik rose makes no sense either but i guess the Spurs were "understanding". lol. and so they gave the picks with it

malik rose will help, mo taylor will help. they are bodies they will help but do they make sense. no

on a losing team the ideal is not to add but to subtract

so when isiah admits his mistakes, it makes him right so then does that make the fans who hated the prior deals, right also

basically everyone is screaming about the draft picks but when isiah trades those picks then what?

we need people like mike and mad dog
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3/1/2005  4:14 PM
boy they are pretty quiet today!
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3/1/2005  4:27 PM
lolololol
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3/1/2005  4:31 PM
I agree with Dog about the cap.
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3/1/2005  4:39 PM
The Angry Puppy is an idiot!

I actually agree with Mike. The cap is not an issue with the Knicks. We are stuck with it and will never be under the cap.
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3/1/2005  4:41 PM
Posted by Rich:

I agree with Dog about the cap.

But Dog, is a hyprocrit, when Layden signed Houston to $100 million both Mike and Dog said what does it matter the Knicks will never be under the cap anyway. So who cares, they thought it was great to resign him, they said the Rice deal was ok too, I already mentioned the McDyess deal, being over the cap was no problem then either. Mushnick is right about Dog, he is a closet racist, if Layden would have made those same moves he would have defended him saying hey they are never get under the cap, why is now being over the cap an issue. hmm... The Knicks been over the cap for 9 years. Now it is a problem, hmm... Leads me to think there is another agenda for people like Dog. In 2003, he picked the Knicks to finish with a 45 win record under Layden, who sent him mug of kool-aid (which I was surprise to Layden with a sense of humor).
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3/1/2005  4:42 PM
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3/1/2005  4:47 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Rich:

I agree with Dog about the cap.

But Dog, is a hyprocrit, when Layden signed Houston to $100 million both Mike and Dog said what does it matter the Knicks will never be under the cap anyway. So who cares, they thought it was great to resign him, they said the Rice deal was ok too, I already mentioned the McDyess deal, being over the cap was no problem then either. Mushnick is right about Dog, he is a closet racist, if Layden would have made those same moves he would have defended him saying hey they are never get under the cap, why is now being over the cap an issue. hmm... The Knicks been over the cap for 9 years. Now it is a problem, hmm... Leads me to think there is another agenda for people like Dog. In 2003, he picked the Knicks to finish with a 45 win record under Layden, who sent him mug of kool-aid (which I was surprise to Layden with a sense of humor).

I agree that they are hypocrites.
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