Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

Great. Layden-like trade. We got 0wned!!!!

Did Layden ever *acquire* first rd picks? Today's moves are the opposite of what Layden would do.

I like the San Antonio trade and hate the Houston trade. Really bummed about the Houston one, actually.

Posted by s3231:

This is so dumb.. ESPN radio is still saying we have a first round pick from the Rockets.. I feel like killing someone

That sounds too good to be true. We'd be going into the offseason with 4 1st rd picks and $30 mil in expiring contracts! I'd be thrilled

Listening to the pregame show on ESPN radio and they are still saying that Houston is giving us a first round pick...

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by s3231:

This is so dumb.. ESPN radio is still saying we have a first round pick from the Rockets.. I feel like killing someone

That sounds too good to be true. We'd be going into the offseason with 4 1st rd picks and $30 mil in expiring contracts! I'd be thrilled

If that's true, I'd be very pleased. If it's that we gave up a second rounder, I'll be very pissed.

The 2nd rder is not a huge deal to me. If we're getting back Houston's 1st rd pick, I definitely don't mind giving up the 2nd rd pick

On the Knicks web site it only mentions the Knicks giving up a 2nd rounder. If this is true Isiah has no clue with this trade. http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/taylor_050224.html

Posted by VDesai:

Both the Knicks and Rockets official websites are saying we didn't get a first rounder from Houston, and that we gave up the 2006 2nd rounder.

let me say this, when we were playing well, Nazr was playing well. he slipped a bit and I have NO problem trading him for rose and picks. But the insanity of taking omn 13mm for another PF and giving what will be another pick in the upper 30s =equivilant to a low first rounder like this year, is mind-boggling.

there is no direction and thats the biggest problem. if this was the case why not go after Webber?? he atleast could man the 5 in the east.

So the net effect of the two trades (if there is no 1st rd pick in the Hou trade) is that we gave up $13 mil in contracts that will expire next year and got two 1st rd picks. That's still good in my opinion, although it would have been ideal to not do the Hou trade (if no 1st rd pick was involved)

Posted by VDesai:

Bonn you can look at it as a net if you want to spin it positive, but it doesn't make sense...its two deals...one good, one really bad.

No, it's one really good (2 1st rders for Nazy!), one slightly bad (getting a player with one more year on his contract and giving up a pick around #50).

This is the Knicks, it is bound to turn into one good, and one really bad. We needed a pick from Houston. Instead, we gave up a pick. A very stupid move. I LOVED the SA trade. I HATE this one. It's almost as bad as the TT-KVH trade.

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by VDesai:

Exactly Briggs. These are contradictory moves.

Contradictory moves would be saying we should tank (Briggs' former position) and saying we should get C Webb (Briggs' current position)

No what he's saying( or what I think he is) is that the Houston trade sucks but if you are going to do a trade like that then at least do the weber trade because you're getting a great player when he's healthy. There is No reason to do the Houston trade.

Maybe that's what he's saying; I can't figure it out since he never wanted Webber. Either way, the positives of getting two 1st round picks surely outweigh the negatives of an extra year on Mo's contract and giving up a 2nd rd pick around #50

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by VDesai:

Exactly Briggs. These are contradictory moves.

Contradictory moves would be saying we should tank (Briggs' former position) and saying we should get C Webb (Briggs' current position)

No what he's saying( or what I think he is) is that the Houston trade sucks but if you are going to do a trade like that then at least do the weber trade because you're getting a great player when he's healthy. There is No reason to do the Houston trade.

Maybe that's what he's saying; I can't figure it out since he never wanted Webber. Either way, the positives of getting two 1st round picks surely outweigh the negatives of an extra year on Mo's contract and giving up a 2nd rd pick around #50

Sure, the net result is positive. The problem we have is we have no clue why Isiah bothered with the Houston trade. It makes him seem like a man without a plan.

So why are people focusing only on the negative? I'm disappointed over the Houston trade but quite happy with the overall outcome. I'll take a net positive outcome any day