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NYKfan1
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1/24/2005  3:04 PM
last year down the stretch he was just awsome, thats the kinda defender this team needs, thank u fishmike.
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1/24/2005  3:09 PM
OK...You guys win...you're not dopes.

But this thread made my day.

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1/24/2005  3:23 PM
Someone is a little a picky today

Anyway, if Philedelphia came to me and said they wanted KT and Nazr for Dalembert, I'd do it. There is no reason not too. KT is as good as he'll get, and what exactly does Nazr have that Dalembert doesn't?
Block shots doesn't exaclty mean he plays defense or not, theres more to defense than blocking shots. Sure, blocking shots is good but if he can just change everyones shot I would rather have that than a few blocks. Dalembert has much more upside than Nazr, Dalembert is much younger and has shown he can change the game. What can Nazr do?

"Atleast TT as won an award."

What award? And so what? He's doing absolutley nothing right now


"5.3 POINTS? 6.3 REBOUNDS? 1.5 BLOCKED SHOTS?
Sounds more like motumbo numbers."

and? Mutumbo isn't there to fill the stat book. Some things don't always get recorded in stat books, like shots chagned due to defensive presence.

"We should only trade non contributors. Penny, Vin and H20."

Everyone wants those "non contributors on their team, eh?
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1/24/2005  3:38 PM
If you are saying that Dalembert will be no better than Mutombo, based on his stats, then you have to say Sweetney will be no better than Clarence Weatherspoon. He's only averaging like 5 or 6 rebounds in just his second season. This is a ridiculous arguement. You put so much into stats, yet you've probably never seen him play.
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1/24/2005  3:43 PM
you're kidding me right? you think dalembert is garbage? if he got more minutes he'd be posting all-star numbers considering he plays in the east and is a center! dalembert is an extremely athletic defensive minded guy who is JUST what this team needs.
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1/24/2005  4:11 PM
We are not landing a stud big unless we take a shot on a Dalembert Or Kwame and hope they excell. &/or we get lucky in the draft and have a stud fall to our laps. We need 2 athletic shotblocking talents to play along side of Sweetney and form a tough 3 man rotation.
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1/24/2005  4:21 PM
Can someone tell me how this trade would happen? Dalembert makes less than KT or Nazr. He makes less than Sweetney. You gotta package Dalembert with Skinner just to get KT.
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1/24/2005  4:27 PM
Posted by rvhoss:
Posted by NYKfan1:

giv me a break dude, wat ex is so good bout nazr and kurt? dalembert has had more than a few good games this season, like i said in his LAST game he had 24 pts 16 rbs and 4 blks, woudnt u say that good, nazr neva puts all those up 2gether. theres a reason y so many gm's like him and y the sixers rnt rushing 2 accept the offers their getting. go get a dictionary and look up the word potential, then get bak 2 me.

Nazr
Jan 19 (@ TOR) - 17 rebounds, 16 points.
Jan 1st v. Nets 13 rebounds, 18 points, 2 blocks
December 22 v. boston, 18 boards, 22 points
Dec 14th v. nets, 8 blocks
dec. 10 v. washington, 11 boards, 20 points

Once again, you are right, Nazr NEVER puts those numbers together.

Did the sixers win that game with those AWESOME Stats?

Potential is a Laydenism.


[Edited by - rvhoss on 01/24/2005 14:54:46]

nice numbers - ZERO impact - all those games were losses. when you're center drops #'s like that, you expect to win, right? not here. never commands double team, he's NOT a starting center.
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1/24/2005  4:35 PM
Aw, it seems I missed the fun part of the thread. I'm with...well, it seems everyone else here. Dalermbert will be a very good C in this league. I would trade Nazr and/or Kurt for him right now as martin and newyorknewyork brought up a while ago.
All of those stats you posted are in 21 mpg. If you're going by the numbers, expect him to get around 30-35 mpg, and is on pace to average 10/10/2.5 or 3, assuming he can stay out of foul trouble. Ofcourse, that's only if you're going to go by stats. Either way he could be a force in the paint for a team that so desperately needs it.
Give me Sammy over any guy we're playing at C.
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1/24/2005  5:33 PM
Dalmbert isn't garbage- at best, he becomes a Camby like player-

At worse, he's some tall, skinny kid who couldn't make it in the NBA.

Would I trade KT for him? Yes. Nazr has been invisible of late and with the season headed the direction of the last 10 games, I'd do that trade now as well- didn't before.
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1/24/2005  5:54 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

We are not landing a stud big unless we take a shot on a Dalembert Or Kwame and hope they excell. &/or we get lucky in the draft and have a stud fall to our laps. We need 2 athletic shotblocking talents to play along side of Sweetney and form a tough 3 man rotation.

agreed 100%
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1/24/2005  8:28 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

We are not landing a stud big unless we take a shot on a Dalembert Or Kwame and hope they excell. &/or we get lucky in the draft and have a stud fall to our laps. We need 2 athletic shotblocking talents to play along side of Sweetney and form a tough 3 man rotation.

agreed 100%
I agree too, but I would be happy with just one athletic shotblocking talent. Lets not be too greedy. If we had 2 we would probably be championship calibur in 2 years as Sweets,Ariza,Craw and marbs and our 2 bigs matured and gel.

thats like a knick wet dream.
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1/24/2005  8:38 PM
You know who is garbage???

Tim Thomas and Mohammed!!!

Mohammed plays the worst D I'v ever seen out of the center spot, and TT has been not only nonexistant this season, but also he managed to negatively affect the games he has played in.

If you bothered to watch a bball game, lik ever, you would notice that Mohammed's numbers a shallow as hell, we loose every time he puts up big numbers, and he play NO D. And you would sure as hell notice that TT has been a colossal bust, barely averaing like 10-12pts shooting well below 40% for most of the season, also playin NO D, and also not rebouding at all.

Delambert on the oher hand is a special talent, that has put up numbers when give playin time, is very young, and is the shotblocking athletic center this team needs so badly.

Watch a game or two before going around and calling people dopes.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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1/24/2005  9:01 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Dalembert is garbage.

I don't want to see dalembert's name mentioned ever again. HE SUCKS.

Shut your mouth about Dalembert...he's Garbage.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ROFLMAO!!
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1/24/2005  9:32 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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1/24/2005  9:35 PM
he's not garbage but let's not make him out to be Bill Russell. with him on this team we won't be winning a championship anytime soon. But with someone with the potential of J'Neal like Kwame Brown we might. Not even chandler. I'd rather take a risk on Kwame because if it pans out can be extremely rewarding if not him then we really need to draft the next stud bigman or sign illgaukus or Yao



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/24/2005 21:42:14]
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1/24/2005  10:18 PM
I might have to change my opinion on dalembert he had 16pts 11rebs and the Sixers beat Miami
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=250124020
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1/24/2005  10:33 PM
Forget them look at Eddie Griffin tonight!!!
14pts, 10rebs and 7blks
http://www.nba.com/games/20050124/DETMIN/boxscore.html

this guy always had loads of potential now he's living up to it. We can sign him maybe even for the full MLE! Man he'd be perfect!
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1/24/2005  10:36 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

Forget them look at Eddie Griffin tonight!!!
14pts, 10rebs and 7blks
http://www.nba.com/games/20050124/DETMIN/boxscore.html

this guy always had loads of potential now he's living up to it. We can sign him maybe even for the full MLE! Man he'd be perfect!
He many be talent, but taking more risks on low character guys on top of the ones we already got is not a great idea.
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1/24/2005  10:37 PM
nice game, but id still def take dalembert over griffen.
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