Posted by OldFan:

Posted by playa2:

If we would have kept that squad before Marbury trade, we could have been bad enough to have drafted AL JEFFERSON WHO BOSTON TOOK AT #15 6'10 265lb very athletic will be a star one day, DAVID HARRISON WHO INDIANA TOOK AT #30 7ft 250(Extremely athletic true center with decent all-around skills.)

Everyone always does this we "could have drafted thing"? But would we have selected the right guy? With hindsite everyone knows who to draft - it's much harder before you see the guys playing in the NBA.

in depends if you have faith on the guy doing the drafting. I would have no faith in Layden because he would draft the next Weis. Zeke has an eye for talent. He drafted Mcgrady! and has shown that he will draft a bigman when he drafted Camby. if he only had a history of drafting guards I'd be worried but he doesn't

Posted by playa2:

If we would have kept that squad before Marbury trade, we could have been bad enough to have drafted AL JEFFERSON WHO BOSTON TOOK AT #15 6'10 265lb very athletic will be a star one day, DAVID HARRISON WHO INDIANA TOOK AT #30 7ft 250(Extremely athletic true center with decent all-around skills.)

If we didn't do the McDyess trade we could have gotten Amare

If we didn't sign Houston to such bad contract, we would have more flexibility with him

If IT didn't extend KT we could have traded him for a big man

There are too many things to look in the past on. There is also absolutely nothing you can do about it so there is no point fantasizing over what could have happened imho

Posted by matt:

Posted by playa2:

If we would have kept that squad before Marbury trade, we could have been bad enough to have drafted AL JEFFERSON WHO BOSTON TOOK AT #15 6'10 265lb very athletic will be a star one day, DAVID HARRISON WHO INDIANA TOOK AT #30 7ft 250(Extremely athletic true center with decent all-around skills.)

If we didn't do the McDyess trade we could have gotten Amare

If we didn't sign Houston to such bad contract, we would have more flexibility with him

If IT didn't extend KT we could have traded him for a big man

There are too many things to look in the past on. There is also absolutely nothing you can do about it so there is no point fantasizing over what could have happened imho

Great post!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/20/2005 14:57:33]

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Marbury has averaged 20.4pts 8.7assist 1.5stls on 46.1fg% and 84.2ft% 6.0attempts a game on the season.

21.1pts 9.1assist on 47.9fg% 1.6stls and 76.3ft% on 6.6attempts since Jan when he declared himself the best PG and we started losing. All this while Houston-Penny-TT have been hurting/big dissapointments though making around 45mil combined. Plus Crawford has also been out.

Marbury hasn't said negative things about his coach or teammates he has just been playing through all this though you could see the frustation of losing in his eyes after every lose. Im not mad at all for the Marbury trade he is still only 27 (will be 28 Feb 20). with 8 great yrs left. I think we do have an opportuntiy to build a contender in the next 3yrs when he turns 30-31 and contend for the championship for the next 5yrs.

The opportunity for big men hasn't vanished and won't vanish for all the yrs we have Marbury. Swift, Kwame, Dalembert all become freeagents. We have Muhamad & KT to dangle. We have our draft pick. We have Sweetney to develop.

Posted by fishmike:

the one thing I will say about Marbury is the the two guys he gets compared to (not favorably) are both 4-5 years older than he is. Nash is 31 and Kidd 32. I see no reason why Marbury couldnt be a key part of something that takes 2-3 (more) years to build

Posted by fishmike:

the thing I like about Marbury is he produces regardless of whos around him, and at least statisticly he's made guys better. Nazr is clear benifiting from palying with him, just like Doleac did.

Posted by fishmike:

I like our chances to improve the team. Marbury isnt the first or the last to endure a rebuilding year. I still think the Knicks can find ways to start winning again. I'm baffled that TT is still in there. I'm wondering if Isiah point blank told him to play him so his #s are at least respectable. I hope not, but who knows.

Posted by fishmike:

I know.. the guy is just tough to stomach. Somebody mentioned Nick Anderson and the drop off is about as mind boggling. The man is 6'10 with great athleticism and he's shooting 39%. Thats insane.. Its freaky how he's dropped off from last year. 16/5/45% last year. 10/4/39% this year... crazy.

Posted by fishmike:

I know.. the guy is just tough to stomach. Somebody mentioned Nick Anderson and the drop off is about as mind boggling. The man is 6'10 with great athleticism and he's shooting 39%. Thats insane.. Its freaky how he's dropped off from last year. 16/5/45% last year. 10/4/39% this year... crazy.