I wouldn't want to trade Nazr for Daly. IMO that would be taking a step back to hope we could take a step foward. The only chance I think is worth taking with Nazzy is Curry, who clearly has an upside that eclipses Nazzy. In curry you can already see the skills there that need to be developed. In many ways curry is like a 7 foot sweetney minus the work ethic. Anything else, Nene, Daly, Tyson Chandler, or whoever is a small step backwards.

I like Dalembert but we should all be very clear on something, Daly brings athleticism and zero skills to the game. ZERO. If we could get him without losing Nazzy i would say do it. But don't think he will develop into some powerhouse center. Nazr is WAY more skilled than he is and has a much higher BBall IQ.

Nazr is working well with Steph. You should only trade that for someone that is able to work well without him (a center with a low-post game).

What is hurting us is KT's overall game. It really isn't what we need. People always disagree with me on this, but Juwan Howard has the same jumper PLUS he actually has a post up game. We should have made that trade a long time ago. He is still available, and if we can't get more for him, we should still make that trade, he is available, and whether you like him or not, he is an upgrade over KT.

i think you are looking in the wrong direction. im not opposed to daling nazr, but it would have to be a good deal. Like anything else in this world, nazr's play has a value and his value has gone up exponentially.

If you put Nazr next to Tim Duncan and took out rasho, what do you think would happen?

While we arent getting TD anytime soon, we need to upgrade 4. The biggest misconception is the overrating that Kurt thomas gets.
Now, hes a good player, but that position--position 4 is where you need a force in most cases. If we had a force at 4, nazr wouldnt even be talked about. yes I would rather have a 7-2 285 pound C, but there arent any of value.

I would hope do be able to put together a package that would include KT Sweetney T Thomas and even Ariza if I can get back another impact player, even if its at the 3 like Ron Artest, THAN try to upgrade 4 in the offseason by going after Stromile swift.
If we added artest and Swift, that would put us at a next tier up for sure. Thats why i dont think nazr is anywhere ear the problem. If everyone was playing like nazr--we would be winning more games.

actually its kind of a scary thought where we would be without him!
Ill trade him for sure, but I want a HIGH value asset, without taing on salary, UNLESS its ron artest.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by Pike:

if Isiah trades him, it better be for the right guy.

Excellent point and the right guy is NOT Sam Dalembert!!

If they threw in John Salmons and even moneyed the deal out with scrubs, i would do it.

so let's see...the prevailing logic on this board seems to be:

"Let's hold onto our players until their trade values are low, then propose unrealistic trades using them to get young talents like Dalembert & Kwame. It makes no sense to trade guys when their values are high, because we would no longer be as mediocre as we are right now. That would be too scary a thought. Where would we be without our mediocrity?"

Trade whoever you want on this team but the trade has to help us win something in the next 2 years. Sam Dalembert and Kwame will not help us win anything. Trading for those guys will only slightly help us. Like Pike said, trade Nazr but trade him for the right guy.

Killa! you are alright with me......

Posted by Killa4luv:

This talk really must stop. I guess using this popular logic of "points wiht no impact", KG's 47 and 13 were of no impact because they lost. Vince's 33 also had no impact because they lost. This is scapegoating at its finest. Nazr is not the reason we lost. Nazr is a big part of the reason we were in it in the first place. They only time big points and rebounds have no impacts is in a blowout loss. We were in this game up until the final seconds.

It is nothing short of unbelievable that on a night when KT had 4 points, and Nazr drops 22,11,2 blocks on 8 for 13 shooting Nazr gets the blame.

TT had 11 on 5 of 13 shooting. With the same 13 shots Nazr doubled TT's points by getting fouled and getting to the line going 6 for 7. That IS having an impact!!

We lost the game because we came out flat and played poor defense early and got into a big hole. Steph helped bring us back, but we lacked the firepower to keep the lead. We missed J. Craw last night and the night before. He could have been the difference maker for us. Nazr should keep doing what he is doing, and you all should be happy to have a top 10 center in the league(actually 6th on most power rankings). If we had just a decent post up PF like Maurice Taylor or Juwan Howard (both of whom have wilted under JVG and are available) and SF like Jim Jackson, we would be a better team.

Against the Nets KT had 6 points!!!
Last night KT had 4 points!!!

So you all trashing Nazr and blaming him for not having an impact, have no point.

I wouldn't trade Nazr for Curry. Curry shows no good work ethic, and most all is looking for a big contract while he has yet to earn one since he has been in the league... Our team needs to learn to spend wisely. Nazr is producing and he is affordable, Curry may not be as good as Nazr is right now...but will cost us 7 years 70 million

Posted by Pike:

As I've said before, of those mentioned, I only do it for Curry because I feel he's a truly gifted player. I also feel his time is here and if he got out of the miserable situation in Chicago and came to us... he'd blossom.

Mohammed's better than Dalembert and this is not likely to change... I also think those who feel Dalembert is full of potential are wrong.

I'm so sick about hearing about this guy!!

that's a little strong, Nazr has a lot of ability, especially on the offensive side. The D word is one dimensional... Curry is capable of doing it all. Would be the building block that so many of you talk about, when descibing the player needed to build a championship team.

Here it is folks: all we need is one of those three things that I am about to mention right now: either a SF like Jimmy Jackson to replace TT, or a PF like Wilcox, or a Center like Curry to go to the next level. With a Center like Curry, we can at least move Nazr to the 4 and we wouldn't miss a beat from what he is currently offering with Marb at the Point.

TT or Kurt Thomas has to go. If we can trade the two of them, it will make things even better. At this point, I would like to see one of them traded. Kurt is the first that I want to see gone. He is having a good year and a lot of teams are hurting for what he can offer. TT's contract can earn us a pretty good player in return, so I want to keep him around for a little while longer.

Trade Penny and maybe and Sudov or Vinny since we are not using neither of those big men to N.O who has plenty of place to use them for Jimmy Jackson and P.J Brown.......we can make this work if we the two teams really want to. In my opinion, we can even trade for Mash's bad contract to make room for JJ at the 3. Penny and TT to N.O for Mash, JJ, and PJ B.