Chandler wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:NBA has always been like this. The anointed poster child and face of the league has a different set of rules and protection. MJ benefited from it and Wemby is benefiting now.

The question I have is why are they forcing his anointing? Jordan at least had to take his lumps for years before getting to that level. And he was more developed as a pure basketball player as a rookie than Wemby is at 22. Wemby will most likely inevitably develop into an unstoppable force with unguardable turn around jumpers etc etc.

What will hold him back(outside of inj) is he is clearly mentally immature. NBA coddling him will only turn that into a bigger issue for the long term. They should be forcing him to mature and develop his game into a player cappable of truly being the face of the league first.

As it stands now their face of the league is being exposed as a dirty, immature, arrogant prick. Which in turn isn't a good look for the NBA brand.

Wemby is the most physically gifted big man since Wilt the stilt. Maybe the most physically and talented player since MJ. League knows that if he stays healthy he may be one of the best of all time. He will probably be the face of the NBA for years to come.
You can add that the league wants a game 7 and come up with several obstacles you have to climb. But it’s nothing other NBA finals teams have not faced in the past.

So let’s stop all this BS about refs, league and preferential treatment for Wemby. It’s all a bunch of excuses losers focus on.
At the end of the day, we were up 7 starting the 3rd quarter. Knicks had an opportunity to execute and go on a run that would essentially guarantee a championship. They didn’t. Threw the ball around and did not score in 4 minutes. Focus should be, and I trust it will be with this team, not on BS like Wemby or Refs but on what they need to do better. Which includes better execution, shot making and playing connected defense. Fuck all the other noise.

Confident they will tonight!!
I see a big win and taking control of the series.

They threw the ball around at the start of the first half. At the start of the second half the refs had them in foul trouble in a little over 2 minutes.

Call me a loser if you want, but if so I'll call you a sucker, and a dummy, for suggesting it was a level playing field

Did not mean to insinuate you are a loser. Wanted to make the point that it’s a losing mentality when you focus on things you can’t control and not take ownership of the things you failed to do. Several of the players said the same thing. Mainly that they were not in sync defensively. That they went back to bad habits on offense. That they had too many turnovers. Several at the start of the first and second half. They had 0 points for over 4 minutes to start the third.
Already said refs, league NBA are probably in favor of a close series. There will be games where calls lean in our direction and others where they don’t. Bottom line is that in order to compete at a high level, you have to focus on what you can control and do better .

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:NBA has always been like this. The anointed poster child and face of the league has a different set of rules and protection. MJ benefited from it and Wemby is benefiting now.

The question I have is why are they forcing his anointing? Jordan at least had to take his lumps for years before getting to that level. And he was more developed as a pure basketball player as a rookie than Wemby is at 22. Wemby will most likely inevitably develop into an unstoppable force with unguardable turn around jumpers etc etc.

What will hold him back(outside of inj) is he is clearly mentally immature. NBA coddling him will only turn that into a bigger issue for the long term. They should be forcing him to mature and develop his game into a player cappable of truly being the face of the league first.

As it stands now their face of the league is being exposed as a dirty, immature, arrogant prick. Which in turn isn't a good look for the NBA brand.

Wemby is the most physically gifted big man since Wilt the stilt. Maybe the most physically and talented player since MJ. League knows that if he stays healthy he may be one of the best of all time. He will probably be the face of the NBA for years to come.
You can add that the league wants a game 7 and come up with several obstacles you have to climb. But it’s nothing other NBA finals teams have not faced in the past.

So let’s stop all this BS about refs, league and preferential treatment for Wemby. It’s all a bunch of excuses losers focus on.
At the end of the day, we were up 7 starting the 3rd quarter. Knicks had an opportunity to execute and go on a run that would essentially guarantee a championship. They didn’t. Threw the ball around and did not score in 4 minutes. Focus should be, and I trust it will be with this team, not on BS like Wemby or Refs but on what they need to do better. Which includes better execution, shot making and playing connected defense. Fuck all the other noise.

Confident they will tonight!!
I see a big win and taking control of the series.

You're merging 2 separate conversations into one.

What I posted about Wemby was getting handed being the face of the league before being mentally mature enough to be that. To the point that the league has to work overtime to cover for his immaturity. Like elbowing Naz Reid almost in the Adams apple because he was mentally frustrated. Or skipping out on a post game press conference due to a loss. NBA avoided truly holding him accountable in either scenario. Not even getting into the stuff he has pulled in games vs OKC or Knicks. This is a slippery slope. I'm questioning the long term ramifications of the NBA feeling they are so weak they need to bend the knee in this manner over pushing Wemby to get his ish together.

All that talent could easily be squandered just the same. And greatness isn't greatness if it needs to be manufactured.

You may be right. It may be early. But you have to admit that if the league is looking for a new face, which they are, a 7’4 athletic freak with a three point shot may not be a bad pick. Specially one who is in the NBA finals.

The elbows and dirty play would be heralded if he was a Knick so don’t put much weight into that.
Do agree that he still has a lot to prove and ways to go before he is considered great. For me, it will all be dependent on keeping that skinny frail body in tact. We all know the expectations Kristaps had. Only to see a shell of what some thought he would be due to injuries.